Dating in the US is a ZERO SUM game for me

Post by **Winston** » February 15th, 2010, 1:34 pm

Dating in the US is a ZERO SUM game for me. You see, even when I meet a girl I have a lot in common with who shares my intellectual interests, passions and outlook on life, it still doesn't work out. She either likes me as a friend only, flakes out, or has some excuse why we can't date. There have been times when I met such a person and could swear we were soulmates. There was chemistry and stimulation between us, the kind you see in romance movies, and the gazing into each other's eyes for hours and forgetting the time and food on the table, etc. In such cases, it seemed an absolute certainty that we were compatible and meant to date at least. All the ingredients of the love formula were there. But yet it all fell apart for some odd reason, every time, leaving me bewildered and in denial. This has happened on numerous occasions. Always something goes wrong, even when I try my best to prevent it.

What this means that even in the BEST CASE scenario, I still LOSE! Thus itâ€™s a ZERO SUM game. This is yet another reason why I am forced to date abroad through NO FAULT of my own.

Eventually, I decided that it was time to stop being a loser and start being a WINNER!

Adama · Post by **Adama** » February 16th, 2010, 9:09 am

I agree with you on that one. I've experienced most of the above, except women never wanted to make friends with me. Even so, maybe that line is an excuse to get away from the guy anyway. Anyhow, any physical gesture or even spoken promises by American women mean nothing. They always flaked on me too. It is just something about the culture that has ruined the women.

I think they'd much rather chase someone who is borderline evil (the bad boy), or someone who is ultra rich, rather than go with an average Joe with a good heart.

That's all OK though, because once they turn 35-45, the free rides and attention men give dwindles to a trickle.

Post by **jamesbond** » February 16th, 2010, 1:58 pm

Insidious wrote:I agree with you on that one. I've experienced most of the above, except women never wanted to make friends with me. Even so, maybe that line is an excuse to get away from the guy anyway. Anyhow, any physical gesture or even spoken promises by American women mean nothing. They always flaked on me too. It is just something about the culture that has ruined the women.

I think they'd much rather chase someone who is borderline evil (the bad boy), or someone who is ultra rich, rather than go with an average Joe with a good heart.

That's all OK though, because once they turn 35-45, the free rides and attention men give dwindles to a trickle.

Once a woman hits her early 30's her looks go south pretty quickly. If she hasn't found a husband by that time she is pretty much shit out of luck!

So these women who spend their 20's going after "bad boys" and "thugs" will be alone with their cats come age 35.

wraith · Post by **wraith** » February 16th, 2010, 5:04 pm

jamesbond wrote:
Insidious wrote:I agree with you on that one. I've experienced most of the above, except women never wanted to make friends with me. Even so, maybe that line is an excuse to get away from the guy anyway. Anyhow, any physical gesture or even spoken promises by American women mean nothing. They always flaked on me too. It is just something about the culture that has ruined the women.

I think they'd much rather chase someone who is borderline evil (the bad boy), or someone who is ultra rich, rather than go with an average Joe with a good heart.

That's all OK though, because once they turn 35-45, the free rides and attention men give dwindles to a trickle.

Once a woman hits her early 30's her looks go south pretty quickly. If she hasn't found a husband by that time she is pretty much shit out of luck! So these women who spend their 20's going after "bad boys" and "thugs" will be alone with their cats come age 35.

LOL That only applies to white American women and some women of other races in America.

dano · Post by **dano** » February 21st, 2010, 8:45 pm

I never really had trouble getting dates growing up. But trying to maintain a relationship with women is almost impossible for me. I used to blame myself until I realized it wasn`t my fault. Suggesting that 99% of the women in western countries are f***ing insane is a very arrogant thing to say, but yet its the truth.

I`m constantly surprised just how low my opinion of western women has become. Just when I think my opinion won`t get any lower it always does and I`m surprised yet again. I`m 43 yrs old I`ve never felt close to a woman before, not even my exwife. I`ve become increasingly paranoid of women as a result. Reading the posts on this forum I can tell I`m not alone. Most western women are emotionally divorced from men before you even meet them.

I never trust guys that are married to western woman. I know that they are lying to them constantly to avoid divorce court. If they lie to their wife they will certainly lie to me also. They walk around with smile on their face like everythings fine, but inside they hate their lives. They have to get drunk just to say, I love You, to their wives. Taking out the trash once a week is more enjoyable than sex with their fat bitches.

If your using divorce statistics to gauge the success of marriage in society your missing the real picture. Divorce statistics never include the guys that stay in shitty marriages and suffer in silence. My best friend is a drunk, he started drinking after he got married.

We live in a society that refuses to admit that men are victims but every guy on this forum can tell you in detail how there lives have been damaged at the hands of a woman. I don`t hate women but I do avoid them, and I never trust them. Telling a woman the truth about anything is absolutely pointless, nothing good is going to come out of it.

My only hope is that maybe I can find an asian woman to marry one day. Don`t get me wrong, I don`t trust most asian women either, its just that there more of them available. They seem more down to earth also.

Adama · Post by **Adama** » February 21st, 2010, 9:17 pm

dano wrote:I never really had trouble getting dates growing up. But trying to maintain a relationship with women is almost impossible for me. I used to blame myself until I realized it wasn`t my fault. Suggesting that 99% of the women in western countries are f***ing insane is a very arrogant thing to say, but yet its the truth.

I`m constantly surprised just how low my opinion of western women has become. Just when I think my opinion won`t get any lower it always does and I`m surprised yet again. I`m 43 yrs old I`ve never felt close to a woman before, not even my exwife. I`ve become increasingly paranoid of women as a result. Reading the posts on this forum I can tell I`m not alone. Most western women are emotionally divorced from men before you even meet them.

I never trust guys that are married to western woman. I know that they are lying to them constantly to avoid divorce court. If they lie to their wife they will certainly lie to me also. They walk around with smile on their face like everythings fine, but inside they hate their lives. They have to get drunk just to say, I love You, to their wives. Taking out the trash once a week is more enjoyable than sex with their fat bitches.

If your using divorce statistics to gauge the success of marriage in society your missing the real picture. Divorce statistics never include the guys that stay in shitty marriages and suffer in silence. My best friend is a drunk, he started drinking after he got married.

We live in a society that refuses to admit that men are victims but every guy on this forum can tell you in detail how there lives have been damaged at the hands of a woman. I don`t hate women but I do avoid them, and I never trust them. Telling a woman the truth about anything is absolutely pointless, nothing good is going to come out of it.

My only hope is that maybe I can find an asian woman to marry one day. Don`t get me wrong, I don`t trust most asian women either, its just that there more of them available. They seem more down to earth also.

I have a 50 year old married friend I met in my program (second career for him). He has two daughters. He and his wife havent slept in the same bed for years.

I told him about how women are much more sexist than men - hiring practices and the way they all band together to trash individual men being the two examples.

He says to me that I need to tell myself positive stories in my mind. Whenever I think someone has a bad motive, I should reassign them a benevolent motive in my mind.

These men are lying to themselves in order to keep themselves from going crazy. This is how he tackles his everyday life when shit happens. He always has a smile on his face, is telling an old story, or making a joke that I dont get due to the generation gap. That doesnt say much of anything about how he really feels though.

As for me, I refuse to live that quiet desperation or to lie to myself.

momopi · Post by **momopi** » February 21st, 2010, 10:19 pm

If you can't trust each other, don't get married.

Post by **Winston** » February 22nd, 2010, 2:10 am

So have any of you ever met a girl you had a lot in common with that you had chemistry with and could be your soulmate, yet they blew you off or flaked out?

outcastsuperstar · Post by **outcastsuperstar** » March 12th, 2010, 6:38 pm

I totally given up on dating in the USA myself. In the future if I need sex really bad I will just visit a local happy ending Asian Massage Parlor, American Women aren't worth my time.

Post by **Winston** » March 13th, 2010, 7:34 am

outcastsuperstar wrote:I totally given up on dating in the USA myself. In the future if I need sex really bad I will just visit a local happy ending Asian Massage Parlor, American Women aren't worth my time.

How much do these Asian Massage Parlours cost? What do they do exactly? How do you find them? How old are the women in them?

momopi · Post by **momopi** » March 13th, 2010, 8:10 am

http://www.mpreviews.com/

outcastsuperstar · Post by **outcastsuperstar** » March 13th, 2010, 11:33 am

Winston wrote:
outcastsuperstar wrote:I totally given up on dating in the USA myself. In the future if I need sex really bad I will just visit a local happy ending Asian Massage Parlor, American Women aren't worth my time.
How much do these Asian Massage Parlours cost? What do they do exactly? How do you find them? How old are the women in them?

The best ones will usually cost $200 for a 45 minute to a one hour session. The norm would be between $150-$200

Some of the best one have very cute Asian ladies.

If you want to learn where these places are a good place to look is by first clicking on craigslist, then click the adult section under the service section.

Also http://www.usasexguide.info/ also has members posting reports on Asian Massage parlors and escorts. If you read through it, you will learn what places have the reputation for hot women in their 20's that go the distance.

Such as say San Francisco, if you were to read through the reports the two places to check out would be Empire and CEO

Vicbowling · Post by **Vicbowling** » May 12th, 2010, 3:04 pm

Maybe you should think about having a background check done next time. Perhaps you would find out that their pasts weren't so stellar and you would avoid the hassle of things not working out. Just a thought.

J.Adama wrote:I agree with you on that one. I've experienced most of the above, except women never wanted to make friends with me. Even so, maybe that line is an excuse to get away from the guy anyway. Anyhow, any physical gesture or even spoken promises by American women mean nothing. They always flaked on me too. It is just something about the culture that has ruined the women.

adam917 · Post by **adam917** » May 12th, 2010, 4:58 pm

Vicbowling wrote:Maybe you should think about having a background check done next time. Perhaps you would find out that their pasts weren't so stellar and you would avoid the hassle of things not working out. Just a thought.

Can't do that without a real name & other info to go on. Isn't this person a troll or spammer?