The PAG Problem - Psychoanalysis of a Narcissist.

[Voyager1]

@Pixel--Dude @Winston

I say we should make a deal with the devil. If he removes the libelous content from his website(s) he should be allowed back in.

We're going to have to hold our noses.

What do you think?

[WanderingProtagonist]

LOL not going to lie Mercer was somewhat entertaining with that whole Circus stuff . As for Pag. I just tend to not care what he says. But it was interesting seeing him and NPC go at it until they got tired and stopped.

[galii]

His trolling is even too bad for HA

[MarcosZeitola]

@Pixel--Dude @Winston

I say we should make a deal with the devil. If he removes the libelous content from his website(s) he should be allowed back in.

This might convince @MarcosZeitola and @Yohan to give him another chance maybe... it certainly wouldn't harm his case and would be a step in the right direction. Let's see if PAG has the humility to admit his actions of posting libelous content about other users on here were wrong and lets see if he removes them.

If he removes those slanderous articles and apologizes for calling me old and a pedo, I'll refrain from calling him a black midget and all will be well. But honestly, I don't see the added benefit in keeping him around here if all he does is use the forum as a place to promote his own copy-cat version of Winston's project? That seems counterproductive to the site's interests.

I mean you could argue he's "making the place lively" like some claim. But meh, do we really NEED a poster to spam posters of himself posing with various whores while he pretends to be a big shot? There's richer dudes with hotter whores doing the same on Instagram, like Dan Bilzerian. We don't need a dollar-store Dan Bilzerian wannabe here, it doesn't add any value.

[MrMan]

I did not know who Pag was. After 8 years on the forum maybe at that time, when he started posting as himself I interacted with him. Soon, he started insulting me. People get into flame wars on here sometimes, but it seemed like PAG insulted people unprovoked, so the forum called for him to be booted.

I think that is what irritates people, the insults and going to far.

He said his 'girls' were called prostitutes. So I can see why he'd be upset about that if his girlfriend(s) were called prostitutes but he is penalized for calling other posters girlfriend's names.

[IMO, if a girl has sex with you willingly without being married to you she is the same thing as a prostitutes. 100% discount. Free prostitute. And so is the man. I don't am not saying that PAG's 'girls' did this sort of thing.]

I think our problem is we have almost no rules. Do not accuse wives or girlfriends. Do not call people pedos. Are there any others? I see flame wars, people picking cuss words to label each other, or just saying 'idiot' or whatever. We could have rules against name-calling, libel, etc.

Whatever the case, the rules need to be consistently applied. He's pointing out what might be a legitimate beef. Ethically, though, if someone insults your wife, who is not even in this conversation, that doesn't make it right for you to insult his girlfriend, who is not even in this conversation. If each of us does what is right, no matter what others do, this world would be a better place. Of course, if someone embraces the sewage bowl of Nietzsche philosophy and drinks deeply, that can really mess with his personal ethics.

Personally, I find posts of a poster's watches and sports coats to be boring. I don't know the brand names of but a few watches, so if I was supposed to be impressed, I wasn't. I know the names Rolex, and Bulgari, for example-- watches fancy enough to be locked in a case. Some stores even lock up the Timex and Seiko brands. But a post of someone with a Rolex doesn't impress me, and it is boring for me to see watch and clothing ads, unless I happen to be in the market for a specific item. If I were a multi-millionaire, I might buy the cheapest self-winding 'automatic' watch I could find, maybe a Bulgari or something like that. I bought a watch once with the Rolex on it off the street in Korea once for about $10. In the doctor's office, when they used to have magazines, I would skip the ads for junk like that. So maybe that's why some of his posts had low success rates.

[WanderingProtagonist]

@Pixel--Dude @Winston

I say we should make a deal with the devil. If he removes the libelous content from his website(s) he should be allowed back in.

This might convince @MarcosZeitola and @Yohan to give him another chance maybe... it certainly wouldn't harm his case and would be a step in the right direction. Let's see if PAG has the humility to admit his actions of posting libelous content about other users on here were wrong and lets see if he removes them.

If he removes those slanderous articles and apologizes for calling me old and a pedo, I'll refrain from calling him a black midget and all will be well. But honestly, I don't see the added benefit in keeping him around here if all he does is use the forum as a place to promote his own copy-cat version of Winston's project? That seems counterproductive to the site's interests.

I mean you could argue he's "making the place lively" like some claim. But meh, do we really NEED a poster to spam posters of himself posing with various whores while he pretends to be a big shot? There's richer dudes with hotter whores doing the same on Instagram, like Dan Bilzerian. We don't need a dollar-store Dan Bilzerian wannabe here, it doesn't add any value.

[Natural_Born_Cynic]

Just get rid of PAG already.

[publicduende]

Hey guys. I don't know PAG very well, but I've studied his behaviour somewhat and investigated his website for the purpose of trying to understanding this character. This thread will be split into two different topics. One analysing the behaviour and character of our good friend PAG who is clearly loved and admired by all. And the other will be a poll to ask whether the community think he should be granted a second chance. I feel like it's only fair to make such a poll since I did the same for Mercer who has harassed the forum for months.

Let's start with the psychology of his character. PAG portrays himself as a king among men. He comes online posting proof of his financial success and sexual exploits and espouses the Nietzschian philosophy of will to power. He claims he is strong and that he is a hero. He also claims his (what most would consider self-aggrandising) posts are made for the purpose of inspiring those who aspire towards success and personal power.

But is he really as strong or as smart as he thinks he is? Looking at his Culturewhiz site we can see that there isn't much active participation. Most topics are just PAG talking to himself or posting a topic which receives no response or offers no opportunity for discussion or discourse.

@Pixel--Dude your analysis of the PAG individual gives you merit, yet it's something the PAG individual does not deserve. As @MarcosZeitola put it, he is a pathetic "dollar store" Dan Bilzerian, someone whose life happens on Instagram. Still, Dan Bilzerian started rich and showed some talent at playing pro poker. He actually has something to show for.

[gsjackson]

Let's see if PAG has the humility to admit his actions of posting libelous content about other users on here were wrong and lets see if he removes them.

Please. Humility is one of the Christian virtues, which every good Nietzschean knows were put in place to keep the weak enslaved. A humble PAG? Complete, 100-percent pure oxymoron -- like the Utah Jazz or the Los Angeles Lakers.

[Roccia]

He try to have confidence but fail cause he blackcel. time for him to get a sex doll.

[Yohan]

@Yohan
@publicduende

Pathetic Asshole Guy has been removed yet again. It makes you wonder how someone who is supposedly successful and runs their own business has the time or the inclination to make an entire website populated with his own sockpuppets all writing content. Do you guys think he has some genetic defect or severe mental illness that drives him to act in such a way?

PAG is from USA.

An American friend told me that about in America there is one interesting point to be mentioned: You can find any kind of a human you can image.
You might find highly intelligent people, who are honest und friendly - and you will also find useless guys whose IQ is too low to be measured.

PAG is such a low-life, his only hobby is to bother others, sleep with prostitutes and his laptop is likely all what he owns...besides a few fake Rolex watches - he is a hopeless case looking for attention. In USA he can survive by carrying sometimes some furniture for a moving company and of course also by lining up for food coupons.

There is not much what can be done about it - should he show up again, just ban the sockpuppet profile and delete his stupid comments.

Thanks for your quick action to clean up the forum.

Best regards, Yohan

[Yohan]

@Yohan
@publicduende

Pathetic Asshole Guy has been removed yet again. It makes you wonder how someone who is supposedly successful and runs their own business has the time or the inclination to make an entire website populated with his own sockpuppets all writing content. Do you guys think he has some genetic defect or severe mental illness that drives him to act in such a way?

PAG is from USA.

An American friend told me that about in America there is one interesting point to be mentioned: You can find any kind of a human you can image.
You might find highly intelligent people, who are honest und friendly - and you will also find useless guys whose IQ is too low to be measured.

PAG is such a low-life, his only hobby is to bother others, sleep with prostitutes and his laptop is likely all what he owns...besides a few fake Rolex watches - he is a hopeless case looking for attention. In USA he can survive by carrying sometimes some furniture for a moving company and of course also by lining up for food coupons.

There is not much what can be done about it - should he show up again, just ban the sockpuppet profile and delete his stupid comments.

Thanks for your quick action to clean up the forum.

Best regards, Yohan

[kangarunner]

PAG is from USA.

An American friend told me that about in America there is one interesting point to be mentioned: You can find any kind of a human you can image.
You might find highly intelligent people, who are honest und friendly - and you will also find useless guys whose IQ is too low to be measured.

The great thing about America is it's a capitalist's paradise. 330+ million people. Put em all to work. Profits.

Google was created in America.
Microsoft was created in America.
Apple Computer was created in America.

[Natural_Born_Cynic]

@Yohan
@publicduende

Pathetic Asshole Guy has been removed yet again. It makes you wonder how someone who is supposedly successful and runs their own business has the time or the inclination to make an entire website populated with his own sockpuppets all writing content. Do you guys think he has some genetic defect or severe mental illness that drives him to act in such a way?

PAG is from USA.

An American friend told me that about in America there is one interesting point to be mentioned: You can find any kind of a human you can image.
You might find highly intelligent people, who are honest und friendly - and you will also find useless guys whose IQ is too low to be measured.

PAG is such a low-life, his only hobby is to bother others, sleep with prostitutes and his laptop is likely all what he owns...besides a few fake Rolex watches - he is a hopeless case looking for attention. In USA he can survive by carrying sometimes some furniture for a moving company and of course also by lining up for food coupons.

There is not much what can be done about it - should he show up again, just ban the sockpuppet profile and delete his stupid comments.

Thanks for your quick action to clean up the forum.

Best regards, Yohan

PAG seems to work as a mover in a Californian moving company that primary serves college students?
At least he is not a homeless bum on Fentanly in LA, but he is one delusional, narcisstic annoying cartoon n*gga and a black hobbit from Lord of the Rings. I guess he has been afflicted by the same "loneliness" virus that is prevalent in the U.S and other first world countries. The Loneliness inside of him is consuming him, so he is desperately latching onto anything, especially happierabroad and this forum consisting less than 20 people.

Your friend is right. Immigrants from all over the world come to the U.S for mainly economic opportunities. That's why you see various range of people from highly intelligent British or italian Wall street programmer to two bit annoying imbecile like PAG. The U.S dollar still holds value at least despite it's waning power and the salary in the U.S is twice or three times as much compared to Europe and Asia. The U.S still holds the world hegemony despite it's out of control self destruction of itself politically, culturally, economically, militarily, socially, etc.

[publicduende]

PAG is from USA.

An American friend told me that about in America there is one interesting point to be mentioned: You can find any kind of a human you can image.
You might find highly intelligent people, who are honest und friendly - and you will also find useless guys whose IQ is too low to be measured.

PAG is such a low-life, his only hobby is to bother others, sleep with prostitutes and his laptop is likely all what he owns...besides a few fake Rolex watches - he is a hopeless case looking for attention. In USA he can survive by carrying sometimes some furniture for a moving company and of course also by lining up for food coupons.

There is not much what can be done about it - should he show up again, just ban the sockpuppet profile and delete his stupid comments.

Thanks for your quick action to clean up the forum.

Best regards, Yohan

@Pixel--Dude

I agree 100% with what @Yohan says. He is a sad case of narcissism, aka attention whoring. He seems to be permanently suspended between wanting to pose as a smart, successful, masculine serial entrepreneur and polymath, and seeking validation for his alleged qualities. Like Yohan said, if he really had been the former, he would have had neither the time nor the intention to build his own sockpuppets and litter the Internet with self-referential, if sometimes modestly entertaining, contents.