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Prejudice Against Foreign Girlfriend

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I wonder if anyone out there who had/is having a relationship with a foreign woman got prejudiced remarks from people back in the U.S. (or whatever your home country is).

I will now vent.

I have always hesitated to let my fellow American peers know that I have a girlfriend in Mexico. Because if I do let them know, they often start acting prejudiced and make hasty, bigoted judgments about my girlfriend even if they know almost absolutely nothing about her. All it takes is one sentence: "I have a girlfriend in Mexico." Absolutely nothing else. They wouldn't know her name, city, age, personality, or what she looks like, but still spew out plenty of hate.


Why do they have to say incredibly racist and bigoted things like:
- "Your girlfriend will dump you if you don't make a lot of money. All Mexican girls are greedy gold-diggers."
- "You're gonna get shot down there in Mexico one day."
- "That's weird, so she doesn't speak English huh?"
- "She'll get fat and ugly once she starts having kids."
- "She's not gonna be able to do anything for you, except have a bunch of kids. Like a baby-producing machine. Plus she's gotta adapt to this country."
- "Having fun with that hooker? Bet you just picked her off the streets."
- "Brown cholitas! Eww."

Also some not so bigoted comments, but still not very positive:
- "Now have fun getting approval from your parents, I bet they're going to be happy."
- "Yeah, that's messed up. Why can't you date someone right here? Just join some clubs or something and ask out the girls there."
- "In Mexico ... AGAIN?"


Seriously, I can't believe full-grown college students in the United States can be talking like this. This is immature, unintelligent, middle/high-schoolish behavior. :evil:

As you can see, they'd never directly criticize me, but just make nasty comments about my girlfriend simply because of the fact that she is Mexican. Whenever this happens, I usually don't say anything and don't fight back, because I wouldn't want to start fights or make anything worse. I'm very glad that people at HappierAbroad can actually understand me and my choices. Because mainstream Americans don't. They hate the idea of dating someone from a country perceived to be "worse" than the almighty #1 U.S. of A.

Plus, many of these these remarks came from Asian-American male acquaintances. They themselves are the children of immigrants who've been discriminated in this country, so why do they have to harbor all these anti-Mexican attitudes? They don't even know their own language and culture properly. Whenever I'd start speaking Chinese to them, they'd say, "Dude, this is America. Speak English." That's their heritage tongue, and they feel ashamed of it? I'm proud of it and cherish being able to speak it. Now why does that self-hatred have to carry over to other nationalities and ethnicities?

One of my Mexican friends here in the U.S. says that I should let everyone know we're together and be proud of it. He says I should fight back whenever they start bashing my girlfriend (which I never try to do, to avoid conflicts). I appreciate that a lot. For a long time I've wanted to keep my relationship as low-profile as possible and only confided it to close friends that I trust a lot. Why? Because I knew all this bigotry and prejudice would come along if I let everyone in my social circles know the truth. I've recently announced my relationship on Facebook, and thank goodness there were very few negative reactions. Most people seemed indifferent. The positive reactions nearly all came from close friends who had already known me well and had formed some sort of a special bond with me. On the other hand, if one of my friends had announced a relationship with a fellow Asian-American girl from his own school, he'd be bombarded with positive, delighted reactions.

Nearly all of my friends and acquaintances who are in relationships are dating someone from the same school, whether a high school, community college, or 4-year university. Long-distance relationships are usually those carried over from when they were in the same high school. At most, maybe neighboring schools within the same city. Usually they'd already have some mutual friends. They'd usually meet through some sort of a clique or social circle, like a club, group of friends, Christian fellowship, or class.

So I know what I'm doing is not only quite unusual but also very taboo. Why do the only "acceptable" girls for me have to be college-educated girls in the United States who are Asian, and at most white. But not any of the ones perceived to be "dark" such as Latina, Indian, Middle Eastern, or black - let alone one living in a foreign country. When I met my wonderful girl, we did not share any mutual friends, social circles, classes, and so on - whereas nearly every Californian young couple would have before they'd commit into a relationship. Nevertheless, I have had such a long, deep, and meaningful relationship with my girl, whereas so many American relationships would be shallow, superficial, and short-term, and be filled with disappointments. Yet everyone applauds them, while a meaningful but "different" one like mine is despised.

I'm still very young (early 20's) and don't look like a person who can't get dates in the U.S., so they usually don't think that I have trouble dating in America. So they will keep telling me to date some more conformist airhead women that I simply don't click with. Enough with that iPod/Smartphone addiction, bland pop music, and airhead valley girl accent.

On the other hand, Mexicans are incredibly proud and impressed when they know I have a girlfriend in Mexico. I have never once gotten any prejudiced remarks from them about this. They'll applaud and congratulate me for being open-minded and nice enough to be with one of their women.

Enough with the cliquishness, prejudice, and racism. The United States is not #1.
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Post by Falcon »

Sorry if the bigoted comments I quoted above offends anyone, but I posted them to make a point.

This is one of the very few frustrated and angry posts I have here, since I'm a happy-go-lucky kind of person most of the time. I just feel like I have to let this out.
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Why are you allowing people to insult your girlfriend like this?
- "Having fun with that hooker? Bet you just picked her off the streets."
Who said that? He was asking to be KTFO for that. Why do you allow people to talk to you like this? They aren't your friends if they're saying things like this. Next time, call them out on their shit and enjoy watching them back pedal.
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Why are you inviting commentary on your life from fair weather acquaintences and other strangers? Who cares what they think. Most Americans are totally brainwashed about the realities of U.S. life. Why do you think the Tea Party is so popular or why things seem to never change despite the quality of life in the U.S. dropping like a rock?

In addition a lot of Asian-Americans are overly self conscious, insecure, and deluded about what life consists of. Some of them base everything on parental approval then the other half on mainstream approval. That's why so many AA's have problems fitting in and have all sorts of self image issues and awkwardness. I hate to generalize too much about Asian-Americans because there are a lot of ones I know who aren't like this but there are many who are stuck in their own self perpetuating hell.

You have your girlfriend and you found your own happiness. That's all that matters. These people don't get it because they simply aren't capable or haven't been abroad to see what it's like.
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Well, they're real-life trolls. I don't respond to them because trolls thrive on responses. And I can't afford to make enemies with them because our parents all know each other ... Asian networks, get it? :evil: I grew up in one of those middle-class suburbs that was mostly made up of professional Asian immigrants, and those are often tight-knit communities where everyone knows one another. So they're not just random strangers, but were fairly nice long-time acquaintances (former classmates and all) ... until I'd tell them about my foreign girlfriend. What surprised me was that they wouldn't hesitate to say the meanest things they could think of.

Those were acquaintances I knew from high school and/or college (some went to my high school and somehow tagged along and went to the same college as mine). They were very insecure and self-conscious Chinese-American guys who were obsessed with K-pop, MMORPG's, and anime. In high school, they were pretty cool, but in college they somehow started acting like very annoying jerks. They were worried about "getting laid in college" and "how to be cool" while also stressing out big-time about engineering and pre-med. Since then, I have cut off all forms of communication with them.

Additionally, I do not seek approval from parents and peers at all. I don't ask them if it's OK to try something different - I just do it; whereas almost every single other Asian college kid has to ask their parents and peers. Like I've said above, all it takes is the sentence "I have a girlfriend in Mexico" when the topic of dating somehow comes up. What happens is that they would ask me about my relationship status or experience, so then I'd casually give a simple, honest response. Then that would cause all those bigoted responses. Even worse, they'd spread rumors about me to dozens of other kids. That's how I would get so many of those prejudiced responses. So I just stayed away from them and moved on.

Networks trap you, and it can be hard to get out of them. (Ever joined a church and then tried to quit? THAT'S what I'm talking about.) Here's what happens in a bad network: Even if you try to keep things from them, sooner or later they'll all find out, criticize you harshly, and spread a bunch of rumors. That's why I don't prefer to date girls from the same social network. In high school, when girls coldly rejected me after I'd ask them out to a dance, they wouldn't stop at that. They would spread rumors about my failure everywhere and give me strange looks all year long. This didn't happen just once, but multiple times. See viewtopic.php?p=58743&highlight=#58743 for one example.

Now you see why I ended up with that someone special from Mexico. American youths are way behind in emotional and social maturity, even if they ace all the standardized tests.
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Look, this is how many insecure Asian men like to bully other people. No invitations needed.

Here's something I dug up from http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/lofiver ... 73193.html Filipino guys involved this time. :?
Many Filipinas are ashamed of their old foreigner husbands .... this shame is brought about by the often cruel treatment they get from other filipinos.....
(true story)
The young Filipina was choking back the tears.....while she was standing at Rose Pharmacy with her old foreigner husband.....two young filipinos were making the ugliest of comments in Visayan...." Can he still get it up?" "What is it like to kiss a white frog?" "If you ever want ..... Many of the comments could not be printed here. They made her feel dirty and ashamed.....they did not have the courage to talk in English but they felt brave enough to verbally assault her in the most cruel and ugly way..... what they did not know about this "ugly foreigner"..... he saved her life.....a few years before she was literally living off a Cebu landfill.....eating other peoples garbage.....this old ugly man.... gave her a home......gave her an education..... saved her family.....
If she is a whore or a gold digger for marrying him Where were they when she was eating garbage.... why did they not put her through school..... what gave them the right to be so cruel.....
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Asian Americans are insecure because Americans in general are insecure regardless of race. It's the culture here and it tends to spread to every ethnicity and group for some reason. That's why I don't like to associate too much with Americans in general. Most Americans are pinheads, douche-bags, or brain-dead zombies, so why be surprised?
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Falcon wrote:Look, this is how many insecure Asian men like to bully other people. No invitations needed.

Here's something I dug up from http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/lofiver ... 73193.html Filipino guys involved this time. :?
Many Filipinas are ashamed of their old foreigner husbands .... this shame is brought about by the often cruel treatment they get from other filipinos.....
(true story)
The young Filipina was choking back the tears.....while she was standing at Rose Pharmacy with her old foreigner husband.....two young filipinos were making the ugliest of comments in Visayan...." Can he still get it up?" "What is it like to kiss a white frog?" "If you ever want ..... Many of the comments could not be printed here. They made her feel dirty and ashamed.....they did not have the courage to talk in English but they felt brave enough to verbally assault her in the most cruel and ugly way..... what they did not know about this "ugly foreigner"..... he saved her life.....a few years before she was literally living off a Cebu landfill.....eating other peoples garbage.....this old ugly man.... gave her a home......gave her an education..... saved her family.....
If she is a whore or a gold digger for marrying him Where were they when she was eating garbage.... why did they not put her through school..... what gave them the right to be so cruel.....
I can very much relate to your situation. I would encourage you however to give it some thought. Avoid most of these assholes. I do that, I avoid most of it. HOWEVER, knowing that I typically avoid such, when it does come, it will not end well for the offender. I suppose living in Mindanao has its advantages, but in general, the perp will quickly realize he has just stuck a fork in the eye of the WRONG man. If you do that shit to me, you will soon begin to doubt if you can make it of the island alive, because someone who does that shit will begin to have a very bad day! They will suddenly become VERY accident prone. They know NOTHING Of honor, or they would not have said their shit.

Stateside I will just handle it differently. 99% of such who say such are just cowardly he-bitches or she-prics anyway. They are easily terrified.
Most cases...avoid, but it it comes to you without an option, serve the assholes up. Most people are cowards, unwilling to die for their convictions.
I am willing to die for honor, or at the very least, convince others that I just may be crazy if they f**k with me.

My father-in-law punched this former suitor of my wife when he was talking some smack about my wife. We were not married yet, but this guy comes over to his house and flings some insults and the ass gets cold-cocked for his trouble....while my wife taunts him from the porch telling him the next time she sees him, she will turn the dogs on him. I went over to the house a few days later with a bottle and we had a few drinks together till late that evening.
Ever since that night we have been the best of buddies.

At any rate, you dont owe these insulting ass-wipes anything....many are just jealous.

Good luck!

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Falcon wrote:Well, they're real-life trolls. I don't respond to them because trolls thrive on responses. And I can't afford to make enemies with them because our parents all know each other ... Asian networks, get it? :evil: I grew up in one of those middle-class suburbs that was mostly made up of professional Asian immigrants, and those are often tight-knit communities where everyone knows one another. So they're not just random strangers, but were fairly nice long-time acquaintances (former classmates and all) ... until I'd tell them about my foreign girlfriend. What surprised me was that they wouldn't hesitate to say the meanest things they could think of.
I'm familiar with these types of networks..very familiar with them because I had high school friends like this. While they are busy being frustrated at home I was having the time of my life in Thailand and elsewhere in Asia living it up. That's their loss. I would try to tell a few about it but most were judgmental about it. I don't talk much with them anymore. No biggy because I guess our worldviews have just moved apart.

They are burning away their youth on bullshit in the U.S. and will likely grow old, desperate, and sad wondering when they could have taken that other fork in the road. Like I said before if I could turn back the clock I would send my 18 year old self abroad to get laid as much as possible just to get over the social conditioning built into us when it comes to gender relations.

Networks trap you, and it can be hard to get out of them. (Ever joined a church and then tried to quit? THAT'S what I'm talking about.) Here's what happens in a bad network: Even if you try to keep things from them, sooner or later they'll all find out, criticize you harshly, and spread a bunch of rumors.
Yeah it's like a cult I imagine every ethnic community has their own version of this. You'll have to make the move sometime on your own though. Usually just make yourself unavailable and/or excuse yourself from socializing with these people. After awhile they will start to forget about you. You're still young though, don't waste it on shitheads.
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Everytime I've posted photos of my hot Chinese girlfriends on Facebook, a fat woman has defriended me!

I used to be suspicious of men with younger Asian brides. But having dated Asian women myself now, I can't understand the people who continue to marry white women.

Really I don't care what people think of me anymore - I think this comes with age and confidence.

In actual fact I've met so many nice people on my search for an Asian wife that they've more than made up for the others I've lost.
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xiongmao wrote: I used to be suspicious of men with younger Asian brides. But having dated Asian women myself now, I can't understand the people who continue to marry white women.
I've been asking myself the same question for the last 30 years, I've narrowed it down to this. There's two types of guys that see nothing wrong with white women and continue dating and marrying them.

1. The Asshole - this guy will display a very narcissistic personality, he see's his girlfriend as a possession so he doesn't care if she's a bitch

2. The Horn Dog - this guy will do anything for a piece of tail, he's more than happy to be the bitch as long as he gets laid

I happy to say I don't fall into either catagory.
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Post by tmr »

Asians can be horrible racists and twinkies/cocouts even more so. Twinkies/coconuts will give the worst of the worst a run for the money in the racism sweepstakes. So many of them who go down that road suffer from severe psychological issues involving self-hate and identity that they will take a lifetime to sort out. If you haven't gone down that road, why bother with them or what they think? Just tune them out.
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I would never bring any foreign girlfriend to my country of origin.

They are too many bad vibes about it,not speaking about the fact that i can rule in SEA but by taking with me a woman from there,it would be a recipe for a disaster as soon she will understand that she have the upper hand here.

The only way is to be in SEA at least 6 month per year acknowledging the fact that is really a difficult task to make alive a long distance relationship.

Also my social network is only centered on some few guys who goes to Thailand and besides that,i have no common ground with anybody else.

So i couldn't give a rat ass about the comments on why you go to Thailand?Why you don't date here?You can only f**k hookers isn't it?

I'm already an outcast, so the only viable option is to f**k off the maximum of time to SEA so i could bring a new social circle and have a more exiting social life.

This burden have being pointed by a fair number of happier abroad type guy,who recognize there is nothing more to speak or to share with your average Joe or average Julie, because you are totally disconnected with the value the country you live defend.

It's quit a schizophrenic matter because i'm super social in Thailand going outside almost everyday,having many friends... to come back and live like a monk in France but they are not any other realistic options to it.

Would i wanted to bring it back as before where i crawled miserably in discos here,being rejected by obnoxious females,and witnessing how dudes are chasing females for nothing...that would not make any sense to me to socialize in this way.
Also going out cost a lot..and i get a lot more by going out in Thailand.

The only space open are the family and the job where you have to take the necessary money for going abroad to live the live you want to live.

Some posters on this board have still a lot of acquaintances to be with,even the bad ones. :lol:
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OutWest wrote:
Falcon wrote:Look, this is how many insecure Asian men like to bully other people. No invitations needed.

Here's something I dug up from http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/lofiver ... 73193.html Filipino guys involved this time. :?
Many Filipinas are ashamed of their old foreigner husbands .... this shame is brought about by the often cruel treatment they get from other filipinos.....
(true story)
The young Filipina was choking back the tears.....while she was standing at Rose Pharmacy with her old foreigner husband.....two young filipinos were making the ugliest of comments in Visayan...." Can he still get it up?" "What is it like to kiss a white frog?" "If you ever want ..... Many of the comments could not be printed here. They made her feel dirty and ashamed.....they did not have the courage to talk in English but they felt brave enough to verbally assault her in the most cruel and ugly way..... what they did not know about this "ugly foreigner"..... he saved her life.....a few years before she was literally living off a Cebu landfill.....eating other peoples garbage.....this old ugly man.... gave her a home......gave her an education..... saved her family.....
If she is a whore or a gold digger for marrying him Where were they when she was eating garbage.... why did they not put her through school..... what gave them the right to be so cruel.....
I can very much relate to your situation. I would encourage you however to give it some thought. Avoid most of these assholes. I do that, I avoid most of it. HOWEVER, knowing that I typically avoid such, when it does come, it will not end well for the offender. I suppose living in Mindanao has its advantages, but in general, the perp will quickly realize he has just stuck a fork in the eye of the WRONG man. If you do that shit to me, you will soon begin to doubt if you can make it of the island alive, because someone who does that shit will begin to have a very bad day! They will suddenly become VERY accident prone. They know NOTHING Of honor, or they would not have said their shit.

Stateside I will just handle it differently. 99% of such who say such are just cowardly he-bitches or she-prics anyway. They are easily terrified.
Most cases...avoid, but it it comes to you without an option, serve the assholes up. Most people are cowards, unwilling to die for their convictions.
I am willing to die for honor, or at the very least, convince others that I just may be crazy if they f**k with me.

My father-in-law punched this former suitor of my wife when he was talking some smack about my wife. We were not married yet, but this guy comes over to his house and flings some insults and the ass gets cold-cocked for his trouble....while my wife taunts him from the porch telling him the next time she sees him, she will turn the dogs on him. I went over to the house a few days later with a bottle and we had a few drinks together till late that evening.
Ever since that night we have been the best of buddies.

At any rate, you dont owe these insulting ass-wipes anything....many are just jealous.

Good luck!

outwest
Had one guy i know in a forum who traveled extensively to many places in SEA.

He has done the regular spots as Thailand,Cambodia and Philippines.

He felt in love with a Pinay girl and soon praised the country for their women availability and kindness.

The most entertaining part of his story was that he told us he never founded so many dickheads with a dick in one country like the Philippines.

He told that he felt a very bad feeling coming from Pinay guys and was very careful to stay far away from them.

I never though this guy would feel so uncomfortable surrounded by these men and he clearly repeated that in his opinion, Philippines average males are to be avoided because they are only there to scam you,to rob you,to pick a fight and to damage you.
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Defend your girlfriend man and do it loudly. Do not put up with anybody's bullshit. You know what is funny my daughter's mother is Puerto Rican and she is scum herself playing visitation games with me and my daughter yet she is always talking bad about Mexicans. Americans in general are mean spirited assholes yet once again defend your woman man.
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