Critical Response from American Woman - WTF is she saying?!

[Winston]

Check out this critical response I received from an American woman. I don't understand what point she's trying to make exactly. Does she have any valid points or arguments?


"The way you degrade your own self-worth and then blame and name-call women because they are not flocking to your depressing, defeatist "personality" is really unfortunate. Also, you are acting just like one of your typical American women you believe exist. You are saying so many bad things about American women: how we are non-feminine, play mind games, chase money and looks. At the same time you fault us for disliking some of your qualities (height, lack of money, being Asian).

The dating epidemic and your little theory about only getting one chance every few years is also off base. Not because it isn't true, but because you imply that is a man's problem. I am an attractive female, university educated, who takes care of my body with exercise (not masculine), enjoys wearing dresses and heels and having long hair, am typically attracted to guys who literally don't have money (the outdoorsy types), and have dated guys from many different height, weight and ethnic backgrounds. I am not always in a relationship and even when I want a date, sex, companionship I can't find it! You know why? It's not because of the guys only wanting to date the top 20 percent of women, or their fault at all. It's my fault for many reasons, mainly not putting myself into situations with new people. You talk about joining groups as a bad thing and just an appalling part of the dating world. If a man cannot accept that finding dates and love may take a little work and effort, he doesn't deserve a woman, and I feel sorry for a woman of ANY culture who is made to believe he is worthy just because he is from America.

I'm sorry you lack self-confidence, but your degrading statements towards women and yourself are really a disgusting marketing ploy. Finding a date by means of deception is not the only way. Many of the men who read your statement and feel "yeah, that's me, women in this country suck" should realize they could find love right outside their door without buying a woman from abroad if they were willing to accept themselves as people and approach each day with confidence. Some of the most attractive men are not the "best looking" and definitely not the "richest".

The next time I see a shorter, Asian man I will think of you. I'll think about how websites like this, written like this, contribute to a negative stereotype towards Asian men as lacking confidence, prescribing to degrading viewpoints of females, and being chauvinistic. I'll just add this last anecdote. When I used to live in California, I decided to stop by a tea cafe I'd never been to. I was enjoying my drink, and a guy came in, obviously knew the shopkeepers, and sat at a nearby table. He was Asian, probably in the 5'6" to 5'7" range, had a spikey haircut, and had on an asymmetric sweater. He was not the kind of guy I would typically go for. But he was really charming because he walked into the shop like it was home and was nice to everyone. I decided to ask him what he was drinking, and we ended up chatting about tea, photography and life for hours. I was really interested in him regardless of looks or status or money because he carried himself with confidence and didn't break into tears when a female talked to him. If he had asked me for a date, I would have said yes! (YOU are the kind of dick who creates the "impossible" dating culture by saying we have to be feminine and therefore I couldn't ask him out because then I would be acting to masculine, but then you also don't want to do the asking because then you are doing all the work- catch 22). Instead, after talking for hours, we parted ways never to meet again. Call me crazy, but instead of creating a website about how Asian men are not attracted to white girls and how white girls just can't survive in the dating world, I realized that I was given the chance to have a great afternoon with a really cool person and should continue on with life, keeping an open mind.

You create the situations you are disappointed by. Good luck finding fulfillment in bitterness, stereotyping and loathing. I'm sure you really aren't as bad of a guy as you make yourself out to be."


My response to her:

"Not true! I have a ton of confidence. In fact, people say I'm arrogant. Why do you say I lack confidence? I never said that. Just because I don't lie and claim to get tons of women in America, doesn't mean I lack confidence. I'm just being honest. Most guys lie and BS about that kind of thing. Is lying what you call confidence?

No American girl likes me just because I'm confident. They use this "confidence" thing as a shaming tactic to explain why some men can't get any super picky women to pick them, to try to pin the blame on the men, rather than the women.

See Steve Hoca eloquently expose such false and immoral shaming tactics by women, such as the "you lack confidence" shaming tactic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcW4jvGicLs

Please read this important thread in my forum on the myth of confidence, which comes up as #1 in Google when you type in "myth of confidence".

viewtopic.php?t=9050
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[jamesbond]

She claims she is attractive and in shape but has a hard time meeting men. I seriously doubt that she is good looking or in shape, women who are average looking and not fat get asked by guys in the US all the time.

Only women in America who are hidious looking or obese have a difficult time meeting men. Hell, even some women who are as ugly as sin or as fat as a cow get asked out at least occassionally in America. Now guys who are good looking and in shape can't even get a woman to flirt with them! WTF?

Like most American women I think her standards are too high.

[***JP***]

Typical american woman. American guys goes for a foreigner and automatically he purchased her, mail order bride stereotype. Typical american ignorant stereotypes. Makes my blood boil. To this AW I would say the truth is we had to vote with our feet because arrogant women like you never gave us the time of day or a real honest chance. She also claims she's had sex with tons of guys so why would I want an american bitch who's stretched and most likely has seen more eggs than a army frying pan in war time. It's so funny in a way. American man chooses the foreigner, American woman screams foul and feels like she just got slapped in the face with a rotting animal.

[zboy1]

What a typical, stupid American skank biotch. She acknowledges there is a dating problem in the U.S., yet, she still finds a way to blame men for this problem, WTF? . Why are American women so infatuated with "self confidence" in men--as if that is the end all, and be all, of a man???? And why is she concentrating on dissing Asian men on HappierAbroad, when this forum is populated with many White, Black, and Latino men! Typical racist White American women..........

[PeterAndrewNolan]

Winston....she is saying she is a disgusting man hating bitch...that is what she is saying....I do not engage in those discussions any more...I ask direct questions like

Please show me the womens groups campaigning for women to be held equal before the law meaning same crime same remedy.

Please show me the womens groups campaiging for women to be 51% of the war dead, workplace dead, homeless, incarcerated, alimony payers and child support payers.

When you show me this. THEN we MIGHT talk.

[eurobrat]

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[***JP***]

What a typical, stupid American skank biotch. She acknowledges there is a dating problem in the U.S., yet, she still finds a way to blame men for this problem, WTF? . Why are American women so infatuated with "self confidence" in men--as if that is the end all, and be all, of a man???? And why is she concentrating on dissing Asian men on HappierAbroad, when this forum is populated with many White, Black, and Latino men! Typical racist White American women..........

Yea I agree, notice how she went back to blame YOU. LOL! Who the hell blames one guy for the dating in the USA?
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She's the typical american feminazi that can't stand when american men finally wake up from this brainwashing scheme and vote with their feet to seek greener pastures. I bet she's the typical AW that likes to sleep with as many men as possible while keeping point dexter waiting for her after she's used and past her expiration date. Promoting on this site for men to seek greener pastures elsewhere is what she can't stand the most. It's pretty much like a 5 finger mark slap to her face. Especially since this site teaches point dexter not to wait and to find someone better outside of this matrix.

[All_That_Is_Man]

I agree with PAN here: those discussions from misandric western females are not even worth acknowledging anymore.

[Contrarian Expatriate]

Her rant brings forth two concepts: passive aggression and delusion.

The passive aggression is in the form of name-calling and put-downs under the guise of being helpful. She is angry at you and she wants to demean you while seeming to be helpful.

The delusion is in her self description. She claims she is "attractive" yet she has trouble getting dates and sex when she want it. This screams obesity or overweight. She did not say she was thin; she said she "excersized." I have experience with women who self identify as attractive and active who were morbidly obese (and angry to boot.)

That is what is behind her vitriol.

[Winston]

Here is my retired therapist friend's take on her letter:

"Winston,

As a woman, her words don't need to make sense. She is used to getting away with blathering nonsense and having men think she is Dorothy Parker holding forth at the Algonquin Round Table. This is assuming, of course, that her description of herself is accurate, which I also highly doubt--because if she looks as she describes then she would be hit on all the time, as another poster on your forum says. She is just another dissatisfied American female viewer of your forum and I am guessing this will be the cast with the majority of women. FWIW, I have sent copies of your forum postings to many women and the smarter ones often agree with what you have to say though they vehemently dislike and don't accept the notion that a man should go abroad to find a woman."

[Winston]

Here is that woman's next response to me. Man she sounds so evil. lol The name on her email is Jacquelyn Samp. What a strange name.

Jacquelyn:

"It is exactly this kind of thing that is what I am talking about. Arrogance is VERY different than confidence, and you are just blaming women again. I laughed at this whole "shaming tactic" thing, because it is just another concept built to make men who lack confidence feel justified in their awkwardness, instead of making them more confident in just being themselves.

Also...the three emails sent in rapid succession is just another sign of a guy who is incredibly defensive and has no idea how to handle themselves. I like a guy who is able to control their emotions enough to temper their reaction, think through what they want to say, and then say it ONCE. The technique of responding and then getting all riled up and responding again and again, getting defensive, chopping down opinions, sending links, and blaming women again is a really common thing I see guys who LACK CONFIDENCE do. I recently met a guy, we both expressed that we just wanted to make new friends, but he quickly got very attached to me. He started throwing temper tantrums, getting obsessive in calling/texting/emailing me and after I told him very specifically that I did NOT want any further contact, he continued to email, call and leave voicemails, and text multiple times a day for over 4 months with absolutely no return contact from me. He is carrying on a conversation like I am still listening, and it is the most pathetic and mentally unstable behavior. But he has no confidence in himself, and therefore can't say "You know what, I deserve someone who actually will speak to me and so I'm going to go out and meet some new people". Instead he sits in his dark little room, haunts the bar and bike trail he knows I like, and leaves me drunken messages constantly. For FOUR months. He is the type of guy that sends one message, but then gets all excited and crazy and sends another, and then another, all with a more emphatic tone and desperate language.

That is how guys get labeled as creepers. You are showing quite clearly that you have some of these same behavioral habits that do drive people away. The first email sounded sane and like you might have your shit together, willing to approach my email from a perspective of wanting to gain more opinions. That facade quickly degraded into you acting like a psycho, defensive, whiny guy.

Thank you for fitting the stereotype, and I'm glad I could fit the stereotype as well. Go us!

Now stop being a creeper and get back to deceiving women from other countries by convincing them that you are a great guy just because of a cruddy exchange rate, disparities in standard of living and the fact that natural selection leans more your way. Oh wait...that is what creepers do.

Have a wonderful day!!! "

[Hook]

It is amazing how obsessed American women are about "Confidence" I don't usually see that as a requirement in foreign ladies' dating profiles, but all the time in local ones.

So "Creeper" means being attached to a woman but not being attractive from what I am reading here. If he had the same behavior but was attractive, it would be called "Persistent" and "Romantic".

In any case, it is amusing that she talks like she is talking to a guy still plugged into the Matrix, and that somehow anyone cares. Guys stuck here would care because of the lack of options. Guys going abroad just shake their heads.

[Hook]

You should ask her for her stalker's email so you can send him a link to this site. Maybe he will realize he is wasting his time chasing this shrew.

[FREEDOM1]

wtf is this idiot crapping on about

i got a migrane after reading the first sentence

cant these morons tell you anything in less than 1000 words

A large volume of verbal diahorrea does not equal better commuication

my response - shut the f**k up

[odbo]

Ahhhahahahahaa it never fails to make me laugh when American women start acting like they are in position to give advice to men. Apparently the most degenerate, dysfunctional, self-destructive females in human history see themselves as moral guardians. Guess what ladies, if you've had more than a few cocks inside you, you are WHORES. No ifs, ands, or buts, we don't make the rules.

As a result of a whorish lifestyle your face is hardened and your eyes retain no feminine charm, so you will never, EVER, be of use to a man of any merit. A female without womanly energy is a worthless, easily replaceable companion and an unfit mother for an alpha male. Enjoy the rest of your lives dreaming about marrying Brad Pitt while you go from mangina to mangina, trading in your dignity by sucking dicks whiles begging losers to help pay your cell-phone bill or cats' vaccinations. You are lower than prostitutes because you are whores despite it bringing no benefit to you.

All women wanted for thousands of years was to find a good man and marry him. The concept of the traditional family was a huge benefit to women and children, while men were more or less forced to suffer under it. Yet many post-feminist American women choose to forgo this and be miserable. So all you self-mutilating (tattooed) "independent women" out there, you've made your bed now lie in it. Remember whose fault it is when you feel bitter about men seeking happiness at home and abroad, (by first and foremost avoiding the likes of you).