People with disabilities lose benefits with marriage!

[traveller]

As if it weren't bad enough, another crisis has America in it's clutches! People with disabilities, if they get married, they lose all of their benefits! SSI, Medicaid, you name it! So not only are American women not the best in the world, but America penalizes people with disabilities if they get married!

To make matters a lot worse, even if a person doesn't report the marriage to Social Security, they still find out, and then it costs the disabled spouse a jail term and having to pay back every last penny to Social Security he or she earned after getting married! The big, fat, money hungry bureaucrats at Social Security don't dilly-dally! They investigate a marriage and even a living atmosphere capable of harboring a marriage exactly like how the FBI and Homeland Security would investigate a bomb threat!

[Ghost]

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[Adama]

How Marriage Affects SSI Benefits

Past earnings do not factor into SSI eligibility, but there are strict income limits and resource limits that an SSI recipient can have. When you get married, a portion of your spouse’s income and assets is “deemed” (in other words, counted as) yours. This includes earnings from working, SSDI payments, and other types of income.

If the person you're marrying makes a good amount of income, it’s quite possible that when your future spouse’s deemed income is added to yours, this will put you over the SSI eligibility limit – keeping in mind that the program is designed to support the disabled individuals who have the most critical need. So getting married could reduce the amount of your SSI benefit or cause the payments to stop altogether. For more information, see our article on the deeming of spousal income, which includes some helpful examples.

If the person you are marrying is also receiving SSI, it’s likely that one or both of you will see your benefit amount reduced. This is because the full SSI payment for an individual is $733 (in 2015), while the rate for a couple who are both receiving SSI is $1,100 (which is less than double the individual payment.)

If you'd like help with calculating your potential loss of benefits, contact a representative at your local Social Security field office. If that doesn't clear up your concerns, and you still don't know how marriage will affect your Social Security benefits, it’s best to contact a qualified Social Security disability attorney.

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[traveller]

How Marriage Affects SSI Benefits

Past earnings do not factor into SSI eligibility, but there are strict income limits and resource limits that an SSI recipient can have. When you get married, a portion of your spouse’s income and assets is “deemed” (in other words, counted as) yours. This includes earnings from working, SSDI payments, and other types of income.

If the person you're marrying makes a good amount of income, it’s quite possible that when your future spouse’s deemed income is added to yours, this will put you over the SSI eligibility limit – keeping in mind that the program is designed to support the disabled individuals who have the most critical need. So getting married could reduce the amount of your SSI benefit or cause the payments to stop altogether. For more information, see our article on the deeming of spousal income, which includes some helpful examples.

If the person you are marrying is also receiving SSI, it’s likely that one or both of you will see your benefit amount reduced. This is because the full SSI payment for an individual is $733 (in 2015), while the rate for a couple who are both receiving SSI is $1,100 (which is less than double the individual payment.)

If you'd like help with calculating your potential loss of benefits, contact a representative at your local Social Security field office. If that doesn't clear up your concerns, and you still don't know how marriage will affect your Social Security benefits, it’s best to contact a qualified Social Security disability attorney.

http://www.disabilitysecrets.com/page6-37.html

Chances are, if a disabled person marries a non-disabled or working person, Social Security probably counts every single penny the working spouse makes as the disabled spouse's.

For example, we take Melissa, a non-disabled woman who works, and Carl, a man with cerebral palsy who receives SSI. Melissa is deeply in love with Carl and Carl is just as deeply in love with Melissa, and they get married. My guess is, every single penny Melissa makes would be counted as income for Carl by Social Security. Basically, 100% of Melissa's income would be counted as Carl's income. Therefore, even if Melissa were not rich, and even if Melissa's annual income were as low as $25,000, Carl would still lose every single penny of his SSI, as well as his Medicaid.

[Adama]

How Marriage Affects SSI Benefits

Past earnings do not factor into SSI eligibility, but there are strict income limits and resource limits that an SSI recipient can have. When you get married, a portion of your spouse’s income and assets is “deemed” (in other words, counted as) yours. This includes earnings from working, SSDI payments, and other types of income.

If the person you're marrying makes a good amount of income, it’s quite possible that when your future spouse’s deemed income is added to yours, this will put you over the SSI eligibility limit – keeping in mind that the program is designed to support the disabled individuals who have the most critical need. So getting married could reduce the amount of your SSI benefit or cause the payments to stop altogether. For more information, see our article on the deeming of spousal income, which includes some helpful examples.

If the person you are marrying is also receiving SSI, it’s likely that one or both of you will see your benefit amount reduced. This is because the full SSI payment for an individual is $733 (in 2015), while the rate for a couple who are both receiving SSI is $1,100 (which is less than double the individual payment.)

If you'd like help with calculating your potential loss of benefits, contact a representative at your local Social Security field office. If that doesn't clear up your concerns, and you still don't know how marriage will affect your Social Security benefits, it’s best to contact a qualified Social Security disability attorney.

http://www.disabilitysecrets.com/page6-37.html

Chances are, if a disabled person marries a non-disabled or working person, Social Security probably counts every single penny the working spouse makes as the disabled spouse's.

For example, we take Melissa, a non-disabled woman who works, and Carl, a man with cerebral palsy who receives SSI. Melissa is deeply in love with Carl and Carl is just as deeply in love with Melissa, and they get married. My guess is, every single penny Melissa makes would be counted as income for Carl by Social Security. Basically, 100% of Melissa's income would be counted as Carl's income. Therefore, even if Melissa were not rich, and even if Melissa's annual income were as low as $25,000, Carl would still lose every single penny of his SSI, as well as his Medicaid.

Yes, I believe that. What about if they just live together? Can they do that? Maybe just take a private vow rather than a public one? Or have the public one without the paper?

[onethousandknives]

Yeah, this is actually one reason why people will not get married anymore. My cousin lives and cohabitates with the mother of his child, but they won't get married as their (both are disabled) benefits will drop, not lose them entirely mind you, but the difference would be like, say $1000 per person, as a married couple they'd get $1500. As far as what happens when marrying a non-disabled person, I don't know.

[Cornfed]

Yes, I believe that. What about if they just live together? Can they do that? Maybe just take a private vow rather than a public one? Or have the public one without the paper?

No, if they are in a marriage-type relationship, as defined by co-mingling of finances and sex, then the welfare authorities would require them to declare that or else it would be considered fraud. In some places the authorities can actually declare you to be legally married on that basis.

[traveller]

Yes, I believe that. What about if they just live together? Can they do that? Maybe just take a private vow rather than a public one? Or have the public one without the paper?

Unfortunately, living together without marriage is called fornication, which is condemned in the Bible. And that itself is another major challenge, because America literally gives disabled people who want to keep their benefits only two choices; either remain single, or go to the Lake of Fire.

[Adama]

Yes, I believe that. What about if they just live together? Can they do that? Maybe just take a private vow rather than a public one? Or have the public one without the paper?

Unfortunately, living together without marriage is called fornication, which is condemned in the Bible. And that itself is another major challenge, because America literally gives disabled people who want to keep their benefits only two choices; either remain single, or go to the Lake of Fire.

People go to hell because they do not believe, not simply because they are sinners. You can get married before God without signing a paper. Just make the vows as stated in the book of Numbers chapter 30.

[traveller]

People go to hell because they do not believe, not simply because they are sinners. You can get married before God without signing a paper. Just make the vows as stated in the book of Numbers chapter 30.

But what about Romans chapter 13?

[Adama]

People go to hell because they do not believe, not simply because they are sinners. You can get married before God without signing a paper. Just make the vows as stated in the book of Numbers chapter 30.

But what about Romans chapter 13?

What about it? Marriage is between man and God, not man, God and the US government and states. They have no authority over marriage. God has the authority. And look, the government is basically forbidding your relatives/friends to get married. That is AGAINST scripture. It is not lawful to discourage marriage or to prevent marriage, but isnt that what they are doing? The job of the government is to punish evildoers. It isnt to rule over you. Anything else is outside of the purpose of government.But pay your taxes, so that they are not offended. The same government wants to educate your children in kindergarten that homosexuality is a valid alternative lifestyle, and they want to forcibly vaccinate children without parental consent, and they offer abortion to young girls.

How did Abraham marry Sarah? For some of the patriarchs, the wedding isnt even mentioned. It just says something like, "...and then he went in unto her" and "...the two became one flesh." That is marriage.

[Adama]

You also have the wrong concept about avoiding hell, getting to heaven, and salvation.

Salvation is by faith alone, not by deeds of the law. Action/inaction, deeds of the law, keeping the law, being a good person, repenting of your sins, keeping sacraments; those are all works, and by the works of the law shall no man be justified. We are justified by grace through faith in our Lord Jesus Christ, not of works, lest any man should boast.

This is very important because this life is only a vapor. Eternity will last forever and ever.