Fake positive attitude junkie people

Post by **Winston** » December 1st, 2011, 3:15 am

I have a question.

How do you get along with those "positive attitude junkies" who act like life is a wonderland 24/7? They're everywhere now in the Western World and countries exposed to the West. Many good looking Gen Yers usually develop that attitude for some reason, esp if they are popular and hip. You know what I mean?

There are many people in the young generation today who act like everything is awesome 24/7. They frequently use words like "Life is beautiful", "Awesome", "Great" etc. They act like life is a wonderland 24/7 and nothing negative exists. I thought they only existed on TV, but they exist in real life too. They are usually on a superficial wavelength too, not a deep one. And they are usually well liked, praised, and hip.

Most of these types are from America, and are usually female and good looking, but I've noticed that many English speaking Taiwanese girls are like that too (such as Janet Hsieh on Discovery Channel's Fun Taiwan series). Where does that delusion come from exactly? How do they get that way? Are they serious? Or in denial?

How do you get along with these types? How do you have a conversation with them? Around them, I get the feeling like if I say even one thing negative, they'll avoid me. I also get the vibe that deep meaningful topics are "abnormal" to their wavelength.

Many of these types are attractive, good looking, and hip. So they draw people to them. A perfect example is Janet Hsieh, host of Fun Taiwan on the Discovery Channel and TLC. She is good looking, bubbly, and acts like everything is a 24/7 wonderland. That combo makes her popular. But her act looks superficial and phony to people who are realists or deeper than her. Plus, no one feels special when she is nice to them, because she's superficially nice to everyone, young and old. Gee.

Not all of them are celebrities though. They also include surfers, skateboarders, backpackers, hippies, New Agers, and lots of other young people.

But how do you get along with these types? By just acting fake and saying positive things about everything? Ick. (I guess some people derive pleasure from negativity and cynicism)

Have any of you met these types before? They seem to be everywhere now, esp among Gen Y. They act so hip and positive that it kind of makes you feel "uncool" if you don't share their attitude. The good thing about them is that they aren't mean to anyone. They aren't very cliquish or judgmental either, but rather, quite inclusive, albeit in a superficial way. You know?

In fact, they are so nice to everyone, that their niceness becomes meaningless, so that when they are nice to you, it feels like nothing special, since they are that way to everyone. lol. Know what I mean?

You also feel like you can't really bond or connect with them, cause they sort of "belong to everyone". So if they are hot, then they have tons of admirers. She is nice to all of them, but never serious about any of them.

Don't these 24/7 positive attitude types know that 75 percent of people are in poverty, that there's more suffering in the world than happiness, that life is not a wonderful, but a cycle of happiness and suffering?

Don't they know that evil people run the world, and that most things you're told are lies and propaganda, that most people aren't happy, etc.?

Are these types really able to avoid suffering by denying it out of their reality? They certainly act like they can. And if you ask them, they will say that they don't like to focus on the negative. They focus on the positive, and attract positive things, and that's their secret to happiness. Is it really that simple? Geez. So that's the key to happiness? It's been in front of our noses all the time! LOL OK!

I would venture to guess that since they're usually good looking, they were treated very well from birth, and given a lot of love and attention by everyone, hence their overly positive peppy attitude. So they can't really relate to anyone beneath them. They harbor no resentment, ill will, or regret either, since they've never really suffered. And no one has ever treated them like shit. So when they grow up, they are able to return all that niceness back, by acting superficially nice to everyone, and having a positive attitude 24/7. Is that why they are like that? If so, then I guess only those resentful in life, who have suffered a lot, dislike their attitude?

Could that be? Are there really people in life who have never suffered?

These types avoid comparing cultures and people like the plague. And they avoid all forms of political incorrectness. Nothing politically incorrect ever comes out of their mouths. If they hear me give my culture comparisons in my usual detailed insightful way, they will remain silent, since they avoid argument, debate or negative observations of any sort, no matter how true. Or they will disagree with me in a polite way, but when I bring up many examples, experiences and facts to support my comparisons, they usually quit and go into silent mode, for they seem incapable of offering counter-argument points other than the popular female cliche "Not all are like that" which women love to use for some reason, but is pointless since no one is saying that "all are like that".

For some reason, these people are blind to patterns, as though everything were equal everywhere, which is not true, but they can never define their views clearly and have no real argument. They simply dislike observations, patterns and debate of any kind. All they want to do is have fun and act cool, like everything is great 24/7, and that's all. Such people would probably make the worst chess players. lol

Do any of you understand these types? Have you met them? Any experiences you've had with them? Any insights into them?

What are they called exactly? I know they hate labels, but what can you call them? I don't know. Perhaps "positive attitude junkies"? lol

odbo · Post by **odbo** » December 1st, 2011, 3:57 am

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Post by **Winston** » December 1st, 2011, 8:40 am

So anyhow, how do you get along with such types when you meet them? What do you talk about? I feel like I can only talk about the most superficial things. And so I do. I ask open ended questions about ordinary things. Etc. But I soon run out of things to talk about. Weird. I try to vibe with them, but I can't be myself or too honest around them, cause they don't wanna hear honest deep things. They only want to hear superficial positive things or very lighthearted things.

Ok. But, if I meet them through a dating site and I want to attract them, what do I do? How do you connect with someone like that?

Is it possible to have attraction or passion with someone who only wants to talk about superficial lighthearted things? What would a PUA do? lol

Btw, I found a word that describes what I mean about positive attitude junkies.

http://www.yourdictionary.com/pollyannish

Pollyannish

Variant of Pollyanna
Pollyanna definition

☆

noun
an excessively or persistently optimistic person

Related Forms:

Pollyannaish adjective or Pollyanna-ish
Pollyannish adjective

C.J. · Post by **C.J.** » December 1st, 2011, 8:56 am

How do you get along with those 24/7 positive attitude junkies? By NOT being such a downer? XD

Seriously, dude WTF. Life is great! Especially when you don't have parasites gnawing at your skull 24/7.

Yeah, negative things exist. But they're part of the ecosystem. You gotta get along with that and deal with it in your own way. One way is to get a vacation. I mean get one away from what you would consider "home".

Post by **Winston** » December 1st, 2011, 9:28 am

C.J. wrote:How do you get along with those 24/7 positive attitude junkies? By NOT being such a downer? XD

Seriously, dude WTF. Life is great! Especially when you don't have parasites gnawing at your skull 24/7.

Yeah, negative things exist. But they're part of the ecosystem. You gotta get along with that and deal with it in your own way. One way is to get a vacation. I mean get one away from what you would consider "home".

But the problem is, even if you're not a downer, what do you talk about? One can talk about lighthearted things for a while, but it runs out quickly, and then there's silence and then they leave with a superficial good bye. How do you create any attraction with such types? They're so common among the mainstream, more than I thought. They're almost like a new trend. How do you connect or create passion with them?

They're just so detached and superficial and lighthearted, like they belong to everyone and no one. If you can't engage intellectual topics, there are only so many ordinary topics you can talk about. Plus if they don't tell you much, you can't do anything. They certainly don't seem open to flirting either, since they are looking to be "strong independent types". They are nice, but there's no seduction or sensuality in their vibe/aura to work with.

Their world is one of superficial politeness, not flirtation/seduction/romance/charm/anything goes, etc. lol

What do you do? Haven't you noticed a lot of this young generation are like that?

momopi · Post by **momopi** » December 1st, 2011, 9:50 am

Google "5-HTT gene"

If the person isn't faking it, it's possible that he/she is naturally born with inclination to be happy.

MrPeabody · Post by **MrPeabody** » December 1st, 2011, 10:10 am

Misery loves company.

Post by **Winston** » December 1st, 2011, 11:28 am

momopi wrote:Google "5-HTT gene"

If the person isn't faking it, it's possible that he/she is naturally born with inclination to be happy.

Wow you are like a human encyclopedia momopi. lol

So how do you personally get along or hold a conversation with such types? Can you say that everything is awesome and great all the time? For how long?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... y-are.html

odbo · Post by **odbo** » December 1st, 2011, 7:57 pm

Winston wrote:So how do you personally get along or hold a conversation with such types? Can you say that everything is awesome and great all the time? For how long?

Ignore the smartass remarks left by people who obviously misunderstood the type of person you are referring to.

How do you tell a zombie they're a zombie? Once you figure that out, don't keep it a secret. There are millions of zombies and the world would be a much better place if they became human again. Don't over-analyze these positivity addicts. THEY'RE ZOMBIES. Plain and simple. They didn't consciously choose to become the way they are, they were programmed.

Goths
Jocks
Ganstas
Sluts
Gamers
Stoners
and so on..

Don't bother wondering about why these people are the way they are, and why they do the things they do. The answer is the same for all of them, they're zombies.

DaRick · Post by **DaRick** » December 1st, 2011, 8:16 pm

I would simply humour them and move on. That's what I always do when I encounter such types (not as common here, though).

C.J. · Post by **C.J.** » December 1st, 2011, 9:25 pm

Winston wrote:But the problem is, even if you're not a downer, what do you talk about? One can talk about lighthearted things for a while, but it runs out quickly, and then there's silence and then they leave with a superficial good bye. How do you create any attraction with such types? They're so common among the mainstream, more than I thought. They're almost like a new trend. How do you connect or create passion with them?

They're just so detached and superficial and lighthearted, like they belong to everyone and no one. If you can't engage intellectual topics, there are only so many ordinary topics you can talk about. Plus if they don't tell you much, you can't do anything. They certainly don't seem open to flirting either, since they are looking to be "strong independent types". They are nice, but there's no seduction or sensuality in their vibe/aura to work with.

Their world is one of superficial politeness, not flirtation/seduction/romance/charm/anything goes, etc. lol

What do you do? Haven't you noticed a lot of this young generation are like that?

Dude, I think you're doing it wrong.

Yes, the western demonic reality doesn't allow "real" human communication. Thus, you do not try to "attract" anyone, simply put. Unless you have a exceptional soul body(only Muslims, Russians or Chinese have anything of the sort), or black magic/RI skills anyway, mingling for the purposes of courtship(or anything intimate) won't be consistent, or worth doing in the west. Just a bunch of humans with one foot in the grave and their heads in the clouds.

But I love talking to people. If I don't have much to say, I just go about my business, couldn't care less how people feel about me, since their thoughts usually aren't their own anyway. In order to have interesting conversations though, you yourself must be interesting to the person you're talking with. Many times I'll ask questions if I don't know stuff, people LOVE to tout their self-importance.

f***ing humans.

momopi · Post by **momopi** » December 1st, 2011, 10:35 pm

Winston wrote:
momopi wrote:Google "5-HTT gene"
If the person isn't faking it, it's possible that he/she is naturally born with inclination to be happy.
Wow you are like a human encyclopedia momopi. lol
So how do you personally get along or hold a conversation with such types? Can you say that everything is awesome and great all the time? For how long?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... y-are.html

If that is the nature of the person, you simply accept it as is in the same way that dogs naturally bark and cats naturally meows. If you have a problem with dogs barking instead of meowing, then the problem is with your expectations.

There are, of course, people who fake it. If and when you make it to China, you may encounter Taiwanese ex pats there trying to be your best friend and convince you of some great business deal that will make big money quickly. These are the types who went to China and never made anything worth mentioning, but too ashamed to go back to Taiwan. So they make a living by ripping off fellow Taiwanese who are dumb enough to fall for it. This type of person is very good at projecting success and happiness, but look a little deeper and you will ask "if you are so successful why do you need to borrow money from me? Where are your friends and relatives?"

tmr · Post by **tmr** » December 1st, 2011, 10:45 pm

If you are attractive you are more free to be light and shallow and if you are also in a relatively wealthy environment you are even more free.

Some people are drawn to depth, others don't get deep until they have to.

Every culture has its idiosyncracies and requirements. In a place like California there is a plastic 'niceness' act wrapped around things. In Asia people have to 'act' certain ways too for example towards the family. Note the word 'act'. If you live in any society you have to act a little. So what? Most people get used to it and may even do it without thinking. How many mean it? Who knows? You can never really know what a person is thinking.

So why waste time on it? The worst thing a person can do is see someone being say cheery upbeat and get jealous or feel they have to change themselves to become like that. You will only hurt yourself. Everyone suffers of course, suffering is part of human nature. It is useless to wonder if someone else is sufferring more or less than you. If you indulge this kind of competitiveness you will only suffer more.

Be yourself and leave the cheery upbeat person alone if they don't fit you. Play the game to get the things done you want to get done.

Repatriate · Post by **Repatriate** » December 1st, 2011, 11:01 pm

Winston wrote: They're just so detached and superficial and lighthearted, like they belong to everyone and no one. If you can't engage intellectual topics, there are only so many ordinary topics you can talk about. Plus if they don't tell you much, you can't do anything. They certainly don't seem open to flirting either, since they are looking to be "strong independent types". They are nice, but there's no seduction or sensuality in their vibe/aura to work with.

Their world is one of superficial politeness, not flirtation/seduction/romance/charm/anything goes, etc. lol

What do you do? Haven't you noticed a lot of this young generation are like that?

A lot of times it's just a defense mechanism. You're outside their comfort zone so they will shield themselves with flowery pleasantries and social etiquette. I know individuals who don't confide with anyone. One of my cousins is anal retentive like this and intensely private. Any talk broaching the subject of his personal relations or emotions usually hits a brickwall or cold shoulder.

I had an uncle who kept his heart disease issues a secret from his family until he dropped dead at age 60. It's just the way some individuals are wired. Maybe they've been burned too much in the past, hiding abuse, or are simply selective introverts.

Post by **Winston** » December 15th, 2011, 4:07 am

Here is an example of what I'm talking about

http://www.dateinasia.com/yshy.html

i'm a romantic girl, an idealist sentimental dreamer who lives with rose colored glasses

I'm Ishi...
I'm simple and very natural, yet exciting to be with
I'm adventurous, I'm curious about everything around me..
learning and travelling is my passion, i want to discover the world and to meet interesting people..

I'm musically inclined i am a singer since i was a little girl and a dancer too^.^, I play different instruments, like guitar, piano, flute, clarinet, and i'm currently learning saxophone

i love to laugh, i love to smile, i'm full of positive energy..
when there are trials, I cry once and then it's forgotten, hehe..
I believe that when something is really for you, it won't go..
Happiness is a choice.. You can choose to be happy anytime you want it..

i love being cuddled and being taken care of and i love doing it in return
i am easily touched by very simple things..
it's very easy to make me smile...
i don't need material things to be happy, just the love and affection is enough
I'm a very loyal friend and a very faithful partner
i'm a little shy and quiet most of the time...
but become bubbly when i get comfortable with the people around me..
i love hanging out with family and friends..
i am creative: i draw, i paint, i do personalized crafts and stuffs, i design (rooms, events, souvenirs, outfits, etc.)..
i'm very business minded, i enjoy it so much..

i write poems, short stories and novels... i'm also a bookworm, hehe..
i am sporty: i am a badminton player, a runner and i already did some martial arts and some extreme sports...
i'm a busy person but someone who knows how to balance and enjoy life...

i am simply ISHI who believes that....
LIFE IS SO GREAT AND NO ONE CAN EVER RUIN IT! ^___^
I want to meet a Male or Female
with age from 21 to 35
and I want to meet for Friendship or Other.

I'm not superficial, I look not on the looks but more on the personality of the person.
Someone who have a good heart, kind and humble.
I want a good conversation, not flirts or sh*t talks.
Men and women are welcome, I want to have friends across the globe.
Most importantly, sincere and real people who can be my TRUE friend

Do any of you notice the liberal Gen Y female talk in her profile above? Words like "Happiness is a choice. You can choose to be happy any time. Life is so great." etc?

Why do so many liberal politically correct Gen Y females nowadays talk like that? It's so delusional and annoying.

Oh, so that's the secret to life and happiness, to realize that "life is beautiful and happiness is a choice". Wow amazing. I've just found the secret to the universe and to life. That alone will solve the world's problems and make everyone happy! Yeah right!

How did people get so delusional?

I mean, geez, 2/3 of the world is suffering in poverty, disease and other ailments. They can't just "choose to be happy or see that life is great", etc. That isn't going to solve their problems at all. Gee whiz. Suffering is part of life. It motivates us to be strong and look deeper and seek courage. Why deny that? Without suffering, happiness cannot exist. It's the ying and yang thing - neither can exist without the other. The trick in life is to learn to cope with suffering, not to deny it.

Why are so many liberal politically correct Gen Y people in such denial? How do you have an intelligent conversation with such delusional people? It's hard to know what to say because as soon as you say something deep or wise or meaningful or insightful, they get weirded out. So how can you hold a good conversation with them?