Financial Collapse If Russia Sells U.S. Dollar Holdings

[Taco]

"The dollar has lost its magic. Nobody wants to hold it." Interview with economist John Williams on USA watchdog.

Financial Collapse If Russia Sells U.S. Dollar Holdings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LSHdka ... NZU8K0t-EA

Russia Threatens To Start Dumping Dollars
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/arch ... g-u-s-debt

[Wolfeye]

Another good post, Taco.

There's some things I'm clear on & there's some things I'm not clear on. First off, people act lke money is the "life blood of activity"- and it's not. Then this "material" is loaned out with interest. Now there's no way to actually pay off that debt, because the means of doing so generates more. I get all that.

I don't get how the value of money goes up or down. What I mean is: That, for whatever reason, the same amount of something will do one thing one minute & then not do that same thing the next. Three of "this" used to buy you one of "that" & then it doesn't anymore.

I also don't get how the dollar is even related to America, since it's not an American "substance." It's a Federal Reserve dollar & the "Federal Reserve" is just a misleading company name- it's not "federal" as in " U.S. federal government."

One more thing is that people spend money & yet, somehow, there's none around. This is like taking money out of one pocket, putting into another, and saying it's gone! It obviously went somewhere.

[SilverEnergy]

Another good post, Taco.

There's some things I'm clear on & there's some things I'm not clear on. First off, people act lke money is the "life blood of activity"- and it's not. Then this "material" is loaned out with interest. Now there's no way to actually pay off that debt, because the means of doing so generates more. I get all that.

I don't get how the value of money goes up or down. What I mean is: That, for whatever reason, the same amount of something will do one thing one minute & then not do that same thing the next. Three of "this" used to buy you one of "that" & then it doesn't anymore.

I also don't get how the dollar is even related to America, since it's not an American "substance." It's a Federal Reserve dollar & the "Federal Reserve" is just a misleading company name- it's not "federal" as in " U.S. federal government."

One more thing is that people spend money & yet, somehow, there's none around. This is like taking money out of one pocket, putting into another, and saying it's gone! It obviously went somewhere.

When you create fiat currency, which is currency not backed by gold or silver, it gives the government the ability to print infinite amounts of it.

When the U.S. dollar was backed by gold, which was before 1971, the government couldn't print infinite quantities of it.

When the U.S. dollar was backed by gold, it was redeemable for gold at $35 per ounce.

When this happens(the printing of fiat currency), as has happened 100 percent of the time throughout history, is that the more of it you print, the lower its value goes down, which is causes prices to go up.

Printing currency ultimately devalues that currency, so the creation of fiat currency, which is what the whole world runs off of, always ends in hyperinflation, which is where we're headed.

When prices of food and services go up, the prices of gold, silver, oil and gas go up too.

What's happening right now is that the Federal Reserve, which his a Central Bank and is actually unconstitutional is printing 85 to 125 billion dollars per month!

This is going to lead to higher prices and hyperinflation.

Now you may think that this is just an American problem.....the whole print prints fiat currency.

Japan also prints about 80 billion of their currency per month.

When you create fiat currency, your currency has basically become debt and whenever the government prints fiat currency, they are increasing their country's debt.

Greece went bankrupt in 2012 and France and Spain are going the same route.

So now's a good time to buy gold, silver, water storages, food storages, if you know how to farm create a farm, buy a gun and keep some physical cash around just in case we go into a depression.

[Moretorque]

They have conned all of us into believeing their counterfeiting operation is a legitimate means of median of exchange for our civilization. Currencies that are not tied to real agreements and real assets are the money supply of fascist. The fascist have been planning this for centuries.

This much power and wealth has never been consolidated into so few hands and they got it for free with a con job because most people are stupid!

All fake money systems eventually go to there real value which is 0 but along the way the people pulling this con are attempting to steal the world in the process with this fraud that is why everywhere they go they errect a police state so they can enforce their fraudulent dictates and wealth confiscation of the sheople at gunpoint so when the dumb masses figure out they have been had they are out gunned.

[Moretorque]

Another good post, Taco.

There's some things I'm clear on & there's some things I'm not clear on. First off, people act lke money is the "life blood of activity"- and it's not. Then this "material" is loaned out with interest. Now there's no way to actually pay off that debt, because the means of doing so generates more. I get all that.

I don't get how the value of money goes up or down. What I mean is: That, for whatever reason, the same amount of something will do one thing one minute & then not do that same thing the next. Three of "this" used to buy you one of "that" & then it doesn't anymore.

I also don't get how the dollar is even related to America, since it's not an American "substance." It's a Federal Reserve dollar & the "Federal Reserve" is just a misleading company name- it's not "federal" as in " U.S. federal government."

One more thing is that people spend money & yet, somehow, there's none around. This is like taking money out of one pocket, putting into another, and saying it's gone! It obviously went somewhere.

When you create fiat currency, which is currency not backed by gold or silver, it gives the government the ability to print infinite amounts of it.

When the U.S. dollar was backed by gold, which was before 1971, the government couldn't print infinite quantities of it.

When the U.S. dollar was backed by gold, it was redeemable for gold at $35 per ounce.

When this happens(the printing of fiat currency), as has happened 100 percent of the time throughout history, is that the more of it you print, the lower its value goes down, which is causes prices to go up.

Printing currency ultimately devalues that currency, so the creation of fiat currency, which is what the whole world runs off of, always ends in hyperinflation, which is where we're headed.

When prices of food and services go up, the prices of gold, silver, oil and gas go up too.

What's happening right now is that the Federal Reserve, which his a Central Bank and is actually unconstitutional is printing 85 to 125 billion dollars per month!

This is going to lead to higher prices and hyperinflation.

Now you may think that this is just an American problem.....the whole print prints fiat currency.

Japan also prints about 80 billion of their currency per month.

When you create fiat currency, your currency has basically become debt and whenever the government prints fiat currency, they are increasing their country's debt.

Greece went bankrupt in 2012 and France and Spain are going the same route.

So now's a good time to buy gold, silver, water storages, food storages, if you know how to farm create a farm, buy a gun and keep some physical cash around just in case we go into a depression.

Silver Energy you should go read the site "A Mathematically Perfected Economy", it used to be up and really explained how to run a perfect money supply. This is the system the American colonist used before the revolutionary war and was the prime reason King George declared war on the colonist.

A straight Gold and Silver standard is not the answer at all,

[Wolfeye]

Moretorque- Would you mind explaining that system?

I remember hearing one of Thomas Jefferson's plans that seems to fly in the face of that. I think it was the Indian Removal act- a lot of people think it was Andrew Jackson that started all of that, but it was actually Jefferson that started it off & Jackson that started implementing. The theme was to get the tribes "dependant on trade as we are" so that way they'd give up land that they wouldn't otherwise part with in order to pay for goods & pay off debts (probably a bunch of interest tacked onto those debts, too). This was in a letter to William Henry Harrison & was definitely the trend of official & unofficial behaviour.

[Moretorque]

Moretorque- Would you mind explaining that system?

I remember hearing one of Thomas Jefferson's plans that seems to fly in the face of that. I think it was the Indian Removal act- a lot of people think it was Andrew Jackson that started all of that, but it was actually Jefferson that started it off & Jackson that started implementing. The theme was to get the tribes "dependant on trade as we are" so that way they'd give up land that they wouldn't otherwise part with in order to pay for goods & pay off debts (probably a bunch of interest tacked onto those debts, too). This was in a letter to William Henry Harrison & was definitely the trend of official & unofficial behaviour.

I would like to study history closer but have not delved into it because I had the feeling something was not right with the current historical narrative. My feelings are correct, we have the technology to uncover accurate history but our rulers do not want this because they want to shape our minds into a certain belief system from cradle to grave!

It is a economy where the usery is cut out as the means to issue currency and all the books are 0 out in the end and all the loans are tied to real tangible assets and services from the debt free currency issued. A HONEST MONEY SYSTEM! It is a pipe dream, we are stuck with this fraud because as stated by James Madison ignorance of the circulation of the coin is the real problem of trying to run the Republic.

[SilverEnergy]

Another good post, Taco.

There's some things I'm clear on & there's some things I'm not clear on. First off, people act lke money is the "life blood of activity"- and it's not. Then this "material" is loaned out with interest. Now there's no way to actually pay off that debt, because the means of doing so generates more. I get all that.

I don't get how the value of money goes up or down. What I mean is: That, for whatever reason, the same amount of something will do one thing one minute & then not do that same thing the next. Three of "this" used to buy you one of "that" & then it doesn't anymore.

I also don't get how the dollar is even related to America, since it's not an American "substance." It's a Federal Reserve dollar & the "Federal Reserve" is just a misleading company name- it's not "federal" as in " U.S. federal government."

One more thing is that people spend money & yet, somehow, there's none around. This is like taking money out of one pocket, putting into another, and saying it's gone! It obviously went somewhere.

When you create fiat currency, which is currency not backed by gold or silver, it gives the government the ability to print infinite amounts of it.

When the U.S. dollar was backed by gold, which was before 1971, the government couldn't print infinite quantities of it.

When the U.S. dollar was backed by gold, it was redeemable for gold at $35 per ounce.

When this happens(the printing of fiat currency), as has happened 100 percent of the time throughout history, is that the more of it you print, the lower its value goes down, which is causes prices to go up.

Printing currency ultimately devalues that currency, so the creation of fiat currency, which is what the whole world runs off of, always ends in hyperinflation, which is where we're headed.

When prices of food and services go up, the prices of gold, silver, oil and gas go up too.

What's happening right now is that the Federal Reserve, which his a Central Bank and is actually unconstitutional is printing 85 to 125 billion dollars per month!

This is going to lead to higher prices and hyperinflation.

Now you may think that this is just an American problem.....the whole print prints fiat currency.

Japan also prints about 80 billion of their currency per month.

When you create fiat currency, your currency has basically become debt and whenever the government prints fiat currency, they are increasing their country's debt.

Greece went bankrupt in 2012 and France and Spain are going the same route.

So now's a good time to buy gold, silver, water storages, food storages, if you know how to farm create a farm, buy a gun and keep some physical cash around just in case we go into a depression.

Silver Energy you should go read the site "A Mathematically Perfected Economy", it used to be up and really explained how to run a perfect money supply. This is the system the American colonist used before the revolutionary war and was the prime reason King George declared war on the colonist.

A straight Gold and Silver standard is not the answer at all,

A gold standard may not be the perfect answer but it would be a lot better than what's going on right now.

People's pensions and retirement were guaranteed before they took us off the gold standard.

But we are not going back to what used to be.

We will soon live in a world where there will be only rich and poor.

We're not going back to the way we were before the revolutionary war.

A New World Order is coming and only those who are rich/wealthy will be able to live truly free.

[Moretorque]

Another good post, Taco.

There's some things I'm clear on & there's some things I'm not clear on. First off, people act lke money is the "life blood of activity"- and it's not. Then this "material" is loaned out with interest. Now there's no way to actually pay off that debt, because the means of doing so generates more. I get all that.

I don't get how the value of money goes up or down. What I mean is: That, for whatever reason, the same amount of something will do one thing one minute & then not do that same thing the next. Three of "this" used to buy you one of "that" & then it doesn't anymore.

I also don't get how the dollar is even related to America, since it's not an American "substance." It's a Federal Reserve dollar & the "Federal Reserve" is just a misleading company name- it's not "federal" as in " U.S. federal government."

One more thing is that people spend money & yet, somehow, there's none around. This is like taking money out of one pocket, putting into another, and saying it's gone! It obviously went somewhere.

When you create fiat currency, which is currency not backed by gold or silver, it gives the government the ability to print infinite amounts of it.

When the U.S. dollar was backed by gold, which was before 1971, the government couldn't print infinite quantities of it.

When the U.S. dollar was backed by gold, it was redeemable for gold at $35 per ounce.

When this happens(the printing of fiat currency), as has happened 100 percent of the time throughout history, is that the more of it you print, the lower its value goes down, which is causes prices to go up.

Printing currency ultimately devalues that currency, so the creation of fiat currency, which is what the whole world runs off of, always ends in hyperinflation, which is where we're headed.

When prices of food and services go up, the prices of gold, silver, oil and gas go up too.

What's happening right now is that the Federal Reserve, which his a Central Bank and is actually unconstitutional is printing 85 to 125 billion dollars per month!

This is going to lead to higher prices and hyperinflation.

Now you may think that this is just an American problem.....the whole print prints fiat currency.

Japan also prints about 80 billion of their currency per month.

When you create fiat currency, your currency has basically become debt and whenever the government prints fiat currency, they are increasing their country's debt.

Greece went bankrupt in 2012 and France and Spain are going the same route.

So now's a good time to buy gold, silver, water storages, food storages, if you know how to farm create a farm, buy a gun and keep some physical cash around just in case we go into a depression.

Silver Energy you should go read the site "A Mathematically Perfected Economy", it used to be up and really explained how to run a perfect money supply. This is the system the American colonist used before the revolutionary war and was the prime reason King George declared war on the colonist.

A straight Gold and Silver standard is not the answer at all,

A gold standard may not be the perfect answer but it would be a lot better than what's going on right now.

People's pensions and retirement were guaranteed before they took us off the gold standard.

But we are not going back to what used to be.

We will soon live in a world where there will be only rich and poor.

We're not going back to the way we were before the revolutionary war.

A New World Order is coming and only those who are rich/wealthy will be able to live truly free.

Their probably going to be doing a gold backed money out of China coming up, how is a gold standard going to be better for America when we own no gold? The gold standard is just as easily manipulated as a fiat system.

In a gold standard who ever owns the gold makes the rules, it has been rumored the Rockefeller clan backed Ludwig Von Mises because they know a gold standard is a farce. A gold standard does nor provide a means for honest trade world wide because most countries own very little gold and America is one of those countries.

People refuse to educate themselves and that is why our rulers get away with what they do and have been for centuries. America has been set up for third world statis and this has been done on purpose, as soon as the Petro $ is trumped America is gone!

[Wolfeye]

Education's not everything. There's also implementation. I think a large portion of the problem is that someone might feel guilty if they were to harm the personnel protecting these people or implementing their will.

Ultimately, you're only dealing with actions- not laws.

[sushiman]

Check mate, I love it!!!

It's great a country finally came out and told the USA to their face "hey you are the ones who are in debt to us, shut the f**k up and be respectful or we want our money back".

Russia only holds $170BB, or 1.5% of America's debt. I'm not sure how much of an impact dumping that on the market would create, but it could be massive, especially if other countries (China) get nervous and starts selling too. Then it's the end of the USA as we know it.

[SilverEnergy]

Check mate, I love it!!!

It's great a country finally came out and told the USA to their face "hey you are the ones who are in debt to us, shut the f**k up and be respectful or we want our money back".

Russia only holds $170BB, or 1.5% of America's debt. I'm not sure how much of an impact dumping that on the market would create, but it could be massive, especially if other countries (China) get nervous and starts selling too. Then it's the end of the USA as we know it.

Pretty much, so many of our dollars are overseas.

Once our dollars start coming back to the U.S., then that's when we'll start moving closer towards hyperinflation.

[Moretorque]

It's the end of the US anyway, even my local garbage company has been sold to a outfit in Australia. This has been done on purpose. The Citi along with England are pissing on the Forefathers of this countries graves. Lets hope the remaining dictators playing this chess game come to their senses and do not kick WW3 off, power is being consolidated like never seen before.

You are right implementation is a problem with the sheople but you must first start with education so they understand the direction to go for implementation.

It would be so much more efficient for the human race to act as a team to get things going for a clean future rather than the dupe and herd system our rulers are currently deploying.

[Wolfeye]

Moretorque- One thing 've got to suggest: don't throw the term "sheeple" around too much. I get where it comes from & everything, but it might be a better idea to bolster someone getting sharper than to vent your anger with insults. I get plenty pissed-off, too- but one seems to work better than the other as a general thing.

I'm pretty sure the term for what you're talking about is "collaboration." It seems to be something kids do right off the bat, but it gets labeld as cheating in a lot of instances. The ability to work together isn't rare & or something that requires mindlessness. That "dupe & herd system" you were talking about, I think has more to do with outright malice. It's pushing people they don't like around.

Just as a side-note: Humans are PACK beings, not herd beings. That view of people as a "herd" causes a lot of problems. Actually, since humans ARE predators it doesn't match up on some bery basic levels.

[xiongmao]

Russia dumps treasuries, the USA puts a trade embargo on trading with Russia.

There's only one winner here.

Europe will miss the Russian gas, but the USA can export its surplus and everyone will be happy (apart from the Russians).