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How extraordinary - a Democratic presidential candidate who isn't obviously stupid or evil.

https://www.yang2020.com


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Yaaaawn. Typical socialist trying to come off as something new. His support for UBI and Medicare for all make him but an Asian male version of AOC and Kamala Harris.

There are many Asians who would be wonderful public servants, but this guy deserves a swift "No, thank you."
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Contrarian Expatriate wrote:
March 1st, 2019, 8:38 pm
Yaaaawn. Typical socialist trying to come off as something new. His support for UBI and Medicare for all make him but an Asian male version of AOC and Kamala Harris.
Odd that it is people who are wards of the state like you who seem most likely to express this kind of sentiment. UBI could be viewed as a dividend on the technology developed by our (well, my) ancestors over the last 500 years. There is no reason the profits of this shared heritage should be restricted to whoever is rich enough to buy an automated factory. It is no more socialist than receiving a dividend on other investments. The rest of his economic policies seem similar to those of National Socialist Germany, which were of course wildly successful. Medicare for all citizens in the US would save a fortune in insurance assessments, paperwork, medical billing etc. and wouldn't favor tapeworm populations such as government affirmative action retirees over decent people. People wouldn't be stressed out over losing their jobs and thus their insurance and would be covered for life instead of only being covered when they are unlikely to need coverage.
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On the other hand there's a bunch of SJW bullshit on his site. One would hope he doesn't really mean it.
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Cornfed wrote:
March 1st, 2019, 9:07 pm
Contrarian Expatriate wrote:
March 1st, 2019, 8:38 pm
Yaaaawn. Typical socialist trying to come off as something new. His support for UBI and Medicare for all make him but an Asian male version of AOC and Kamala Harris.
Odd that it is people who are wards of the state like you who seem most likely to express this kind of sentiment. UBI could be viewed as a dividend on the technology developed by our (well, my) ancestors over the last 500 years. There is no reason the profits of this shared heritage should be restricted to whoever is rich enough to buy an automated factory. It is no more socialist than receiving a dividend on other investments. The rest of his economic policies seem similar to those of National Socialist Germany, which were of course wildly successful. Medicare for all citizens in the US would save a fortune in insurance assessments, paperwork, medical billing etc. and wouldn't favor tapeworm populations such as government affirmative action retirees over decent people. People wouldn't be stressed out over losing their jobs and thus their insurance and would be covered for life instead of only being covered when they are unlikely to need coverage.
Hey everyone. Cornfed finally came out of the closet as a communist! Most National Socialists (Nazis) actually are communists but they just conceal it better than he did in that convoluted paragraph of disjointed and factually incorrect thoughts.

Can't say I am surprised at all, but the next time he tries to fancy himself "alt-right," remind him of this post which would make Karl Marx himself proud.
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Contrarian Expatriate wrote:
March 1st, 2019, 9:55 pm
Hey everyone. Cornfed finally came out of the closet as a communist! Most National Socialists (Nazis) actually are communists but they just conceal it better than he did in that convoluted paragraph of disjointed and factually incorrect thoughts.
Obviously there is a difference between Jewish communism and National Socialism as it was actually practised. What we have right now is actually a form of communism, it is just that all the benefits go to the parasitical elite and their inferior housepets such as yourself.
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Cornfed wrote:
March 1st, 2019, 10:05 pm
Contrarian Expatriate wrote:
March 1st, 2019, 9:55 pm
Hey everyone. Cornfed finally came out of the closet as a communist! Most National Socialists (Nazis) actually are communists but they just conceal it better than he did in that convoluted paragraph of disjointed and factually incorrect thoughts.
Obviously there is a difference between Jewish communism and National Socialism as it was actually practised. What we have right now is actually a form of communism, it is just that all the benefits go to the parasitical elite and their inferior housepets such as yourself.
Ah yes... The world according to Cornfed. I'm not sure if this "whirled view" is a result of untreated mental illness or low IQ level. It very well could be both, but I would not expect much different from an unfulfilled, obese, unloved, incel who never, ever experienced being adored by a young, nubile, blonde girl.

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This mudshark/simian meme is getting a bit lame.

Like I say, there are obvious differences between communism and national socialism. For example, under communism the government owns the means of production and there is no profit motive. Under national socialism, most means of production remain privately owned and the profit motive remains, but the government shapes the regulatory environment to make sure that it profits people to do things in the long term interests of the nation. The latter seems to be what Yang is getting at.
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Cornfed wrote:
March 2nd, 2019, 1:45 am
This mudshark/simian meme is getting a bit lame.
But of course it's feeling lame, for you.

When something reminds a guy like you of the women he can't have and never will, it will tend to feel lame. All the more reason to periodically post them just to remind you of what is really going on. :mrgreen:
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Cornfed wrote:
March 1st, 2019, 10:05 pm
Contrarian Expatriate wrote:
March 1st, 2019, 9:55 pm
Hey everyone. Cornfed finally came out of the closet as a communist! Most National Socialists (Nazis) actually are communists but they just conceal it better than he did in that convoluted paragraph of disjointed and factually incorrect thoughts.
Obviously there is a difference between Jewish communism and National Socialism as it was actually practised. What we have right now is actually a form of communism, it is just that all the benefits go to the parasitical elite and their inferior housepets such as yourself.
Corny you need to wake up and realize all these ism's were created by the international bankers in pursuit of information and knowledge in an attempt to build the one world system. Das Kapital was written in the museum of London of the CITI and that should tell you alot. All these people with their names on these works are just card board cut outs of the financiers, just like Einstein worked at the swiss patent office. What did he do their ? more than likely stole patents for our masters. By the way there are books claiming he was another card board cut out and his works were lifted from others...
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As an Asian American myself, Yang is an interesting candidate. He is not as stupid or racist as the rest of his Democratic competitors, but I do wish he was a bit more 'free-market.' Having said that, I agree with Cornfed: UBI will become a necessity as technology advances, and fewer people are needed in the workplace.

I also heard he's somewhat anti-immigration, which would make sense since all those H1B visas and illegals are contributing to a lowering of salaries across the board, for native-born Americans. His anti-gun rhetoric, however, I dislike.

He is certainly an interesting candidate. Too bad the Demonrat party is going in the direction of Alexandria nutcase Cortez and Bernie the 'Communist' Sanders. Trump has been a disappointment but I will still vote for him over most of the others. If Yang wins the nomination, I would have to reconsider my vote, possibly.
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zboy1 wrote:
March 3rd, 2019, 10:30 pm
I agree with Cornfed: UBI will become a necessity as technology advances, and fewer people are needed in the workplace.
UBI would serve as a disincentive for people to train or retrain to take on these more sophisticated jobs. Paying people to remain unproductive would do what welfare currently does, perpetuate and increase the unproductive.

Higher tech jobs require people to maintain and repair those technologies. So while McDonalds might need fewer cashiers, they would need more electronic kiosk technicians to service and maintain them.

UBI is simply a means to inject more permanant consumption into the economy. It is also merely a wealth distribution tool that is funded by the upper strata of taxpayers.

The current tax code already provides low income earners an Earned Income Credit. If anything, I would support increasing that instead of UBI. It would be cheaper, only available to the needy, and directly tied to having some form of employment. If you ever hear poor people talking about the money they make at tax time, it is because of the refund check they get due to the Earned Income Credit which is the government saying, "Because you got off your ass and got a part time job, we are giving you a fat tax refund check as an incentive to keep it up."

The tax code also give job training/retraining tax credits to low income people. I say increase that for the too, but no UBI just to artificially fatten corporate revenues (and, in turn, tax revenues).
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Contrarian Expatriate wrote:
March 3rd, 2019, 10:57 pm
zboy1 wrote:
March 3rd, 2019, 10:30 pm
I agree with Cornfed: UBI will become a necessity as technology advances, and fewer people are needed in the workplace.
UBI would serve as a disincentive for people to train or retrain to take on these more sophisticated jobs.
No, current welfare does that. If you would receive a UBI to live on and it would never be cut no matter what, you would have every incentive to also work to buy nice stuff. Work would be more rewarded than it is now.
Higher tech jobs require people to maintain and repair those technologies. So while McDonalds might need fewer cashiers, they would need more electronic kiosk technicians to service and maintain them.
But it is a case of a few jobs replacing thousands. In any case a 50 year old average IQ low skilled worker is not going to be able to snap his fingers and become an automation engineer or whatever, but I don't think that means he should starve after doing his best for decades. It is not like everyone can get to sponge off federal pensions or the like.
UBI is simply a means to inject more permanant consumption into the economy. It is also merely a wealth distribution tool that is funded by the upper strata of taxpayers.
What is wrong with a consumption economy where there is no work to be done? Suppose we have our Star Trek replicators and robots waiting on us hand and foot. Why can't we just enjoy this and consume? Why must we starve to death in the midst of plenty? Is the sole purpose of everyone other than federal pensioners to do hateful work?
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You have to live in your own eco for a consumption economy to work, the current consumption economy is killing the planet. Nobody really has to work anymore or much, we need real leadership and the Ponzi model stopped the Zoinist have created in pursuit to own it all and charge everybody rent forever to live here.

We are fixing to find out what all this consumption means while not respecting how the earth ECO works, we should be going vegetarian so the ECO can recover if not man is more than likely terminated and future generations will be in agony paying for our sins..... It tells you that right in the beginning of the bible if you have half a brain...
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The situation is much worse than you think, it not just AOC. AOC (Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez), former bartender, is not running her show at all. She did not choose to run for congress, she was ran by the Justice Democrats. AOC's brother put her into the audition where she was picked out of 10,000 candidates. AOC is an actress, she is excellent at projecting emotion.

There is good reason why AOC wont debate anyone. AOC knows little about how government works, nothing about economics, geography, engineering or science. AOC has limited educational competence is in areas of grievance studies/social justice religion. AOC is reading a script prepared for her by others or coached in what to say. When she is coached an not reading a script AOC sometimes babbles an incomprehensible word salad were no one can figure out what she is talking about, this is when she is going off script. Main stream media usually edits this stuff out but they do not catch everything. AOC is totally dependent on her handlers with little choice but to play her role as an actress/puppet.

AOC had nothing to do with the creation of the Green New Deal. Saikat Chakrabarti is the highly effective man behind this and others from The Sunrise Movement like Corbin Trent, Zack Exley, Alexandra Rojas. These extremist are part of the Justice Democrats, they are the actual brains behind AOC. And Cenk Uygur is behind all of this, he hired the brightest and best from the Bernie campaign to execute a hostile takeover of the Democratic Party. Another one they put in was Illman Omar which the established Democrats have been forced to disowned as she is a compulsive anti-Semite. The Justice Democrats are in the process of taking over the Democratic Party. Justice Democrats are not ideologically consistent as they are primarily interested in the acquisition of power. One of the things that define them is they leverage aspects of resentment/grievance ideologies like Social justice, Intersectionality, Feminism, Socialism, Racial Superiority, Anti-meritocracy, Anti-Colonialism or Nazism. These ideologies are behind most of the catastrophic wars and genocides of the 20th century hence why the Justice Democrats are so dangerous.




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