A Social Problem: AW misinterpretation of being nice

[Dark_Sol]

What do you guys think is the reason for this ?

I have my theories:

1.Their parents don't do their job. The middle class in the last 10-20 years has been shrinking. People are working more and more to keep up with a lifestyle based on buying as much useless crap as possible. This way they don't have time to sit down and instill more traditional values in their children. They just let them watch MTV all day.

2.A wealthier lifestyle creates entitled parasites. In poor countries women learn to cook at a young age because they cannot afford to eat fast food all day. They are very close to their families and they realize the value of having a family. They follow a survival instinct which makes them pursue men who can be providers. Douchebags who drink themselves to death and don't do anything productive are outcasts because they are too immature to raise a family. No decent woman would ever go out with someone like that.

I can't think of any other society in which hard working men are seen as "weak" or in which good guys are considered "boring". I have a friend who was a DJ for a while, he speaks 4 languages, he backpacked through Europe all by himself for a whole summer. He's far from being "boring" yet he can't find a decent woman to be around him. Meanwhile, dumb jocks who talk about football all day are always surrounded by equally dumb bimbos.

That is it. You got it. I have a hard time putting it into words,but you got it. Women in Anglosphere can care less if you have an interesting life. They really don't care if you're a real risk taker. I am talking about your DJ friend. I feel that society is based on lies. You can talk so much about the countries you've been to and things you've done, but if you don't "fit" into their image of an interesting person. They don't care, even if you got evidence.

[OTB]

@Dark Sol

I feel that society is based on lies. You can talk so much about the countries you've been to and things you've done, but if you don't "fit" into their image of an interesting person. They don't care, even if you got evidence.

YES! I'm with you on that. Society is based on lies. What people think is cool such as being a try hard wannabe gangster thug, bar hopping and getting piss drunk, dressing like a hooker, looking like you just rolled out of bed and then go shopping in Walmart, being ignorant and despising personal development and curiosity, or being a die hard sports fan is really just a manifestation of a weak-minded, delusional, and dumb down society. What actually brings no value to your life and perpetuates ignorance and shallow mindedness is held in high esteem while positive, life enriching experiences are undervalued.

[Ginger]

[Ginger]

[abcdavid01]

1. I see the same thing happening here in the Philippines. Children from families in which both parents are mostly out of the house grow up unruly and with little values. It saddens me. I think it's important that parents gets to have dinner with their children almost everyday, and to have time to talk and do stuff together. That way, the children will not grow up as insecure jerks and jerkettes who are starving for affection and will seek it out to the point of self-destructiveness. If ever I have a kid or several, I'm seriously considering home-schooling them (at least until they are ready for high school), so they don't fall prey to the media's tentacles and society's new corrupting practices. Call me paranoid or old-fashioned but that is how it's gonna be.

Exactly! That's totally what happened to me. I had one parent who would always have dinner with my sister and I and take active care of us. The other just wasn't there. So there was a pretty obvious imbalance and I became loyal to the one and resentful to the other. And I was self destructive! Just two years ago I'd drive from home to college every morning and imagine flooring the gas until I died or wound up in the hospital. I want to home school my kids too, or at least take a more active role than my parents. Not doing so can be terribly dangerous. It all goes back to tribalism. With schools now, kids spend more time away from their parents than with them. It didn't used to be this way

[sushiman]

Interesting story for you guys.

So my Korean buddy flew to a conference a few weeks ago (if you read my other post he's a #1; a Korean guy that looks clean harmless maybe 10% gay haha, but is a massive playboy and cool dude), there was some American chick as the instructor (oh no). She says to him out of nowhere between classes "your not aggressive enough" and "you should speak up". There's all these loud people during the conference speaking up and saying the STUPIDEST things he tells me. I think she thought he was "a nice guy", because he's Korean and presents a nice polite appearance.

He's asking me, "what the hell is with this chick?". "Why did she say this to a stranger?". I explained to him it's American culture to be loud and speak before you know what the score is. Even if you are a babbling idiot, that's considered good, while being quite and sizing up the situation is not recognized as intelligence by most.

Anyhow he's super smart. He was listening and learning during the conference. On the final day he gave her feedback on the program, which included blunt Korean-style comments on the conference short comings (it was probably pretty harsh to Americans ears because Korean are blunt). At this point she steps back, reassess him, and then starts flirting with him!!!

Again he asks me what did her behavior mean? My explanation was that probably when he criticized the program, she thought criticism = being a dick, and by being a dick, not a nice guy, she became attracted to him.

Sigh. Really some messed up people that only being a loud dumb dick is considered attractive, and being polite is considered weak.

[sushiman]

Also, I agree with the other poster who mentioned most Americans don't know a real alpha when they see one. There is all this talk about "alpha bla bla bla" in the USA and it's just nonsense.

Dudes with deep down confidence, who actually know what they are doing, tend to be laid back and slow to react. There's all these insecure weight lifting tattoo freaks overcompensating, talking about how they have been in prison, and killed people, trying to act bad boy, cause they are sooo alpha. Yeah, right.

[jamesbond]

Dudes with deep down confidence, who actually know what they are doing, tend to be laid back and slow to react.

Yes, in the USA, if you are not loud and opinionated, women think you are a whimp. Women see guys who are quiet as "beta males" and "losers."

Women in America are attracted to loud, obnoxious guys because these guys are seen as "alpha males" and "macho men."