Most American girls hate nice guys

[Tsar]

So based on 1 girl who you don't know..

Not just 1 girl. She's just the best example. Nice guys get rejected and strung along most often in America.

[Introvert]

Here's an example of how some people think about being nice:

There is nothing wrong with being nice. There is something wrong with thinking people are entitled to be "nice" back to you because you were "nice" to them. That makes you a douche. There is something wrong with being a douche.

Notice how they turn it around and put the blame on the nice person.

I used to believe that the US didn't have a culture of it's own. Unfortunately, we do have one - I call it douche culture (not to be confused with douche couture).

[Dark_Sol]

The "alphas" are often what used to be called bums and losers, guys that couldn't get or keep a job, even a low paying one. Most of today's alphas are incapable of providing financially for a woman even if they wanted to.

As has been mentioned before, "alphas" used to be men who pursued brave professions like the military and law enforcement, or high paying careers, or were sports heroes and hero type personalities in general. Now they've been replaced by the thug and the player, who provide the tingles today's corrupted females desire, but who are losers in the long term scheme of life. Women also still want the rich and handsome men, but they are a very tiny percentage of the male population.

I agree. It seems what an alpha use to be is flipped.

[jamesbond]

I used to believe that the US didn't have a culture of it's own. Unfortunately, we do have one - I call it douche culture.

Yes there are a lot of douche bags in the USA. Check out this video, it shows what American culture is all about!

[leavingusa]

When I was in college, the only girls I was interested in were the ones not looking for relationships. The smart ones who were concerned about their education.

Think about that for a second.

Why would a woman who is concerned with her "education" be a good partner?

That's a future "career girl" right there, very bad wife material.

A smart one would be looking for a husband at that age instead of at 28-35.

[leavingusa]

Nice would naturally be a good thing, but when the government will fund womens' escapades with beta male (read: nice guy) tax dollars, well...why bother with the nice guys?

Bingo. Think about this from woman's point of view...

If you were a woman, would you want to get banged by some nice guy? Think about what sex is...domination.

Nice guy is not the stuff of sexual fantasies, men are only needed now for sexual pleasure, not money.

So the men who would normally have been married because they were hard working are now completely out of the game in favor of guys who give evidence that they can deliver the goods sexually, provide a status boost or have a LOT of money.

[Tsar]

Nice guy is not the stuff of sexual fantasies, men are only needed now for sexual pleasure, not money.

So the men who would normally have been married because they were hard working are now completely out of the game in favor of guys who give evidence that they can deliver the goods sexually, provide a status boost or have a LOT of money.

A nice guy isn't necessarily bad at sex. They could have just the same sexual fantasies as any other guy. There isn't really a difference in terms of delivering the goods sexually except the nice guy might also give her more attention in the bedroom and would value a woman for more than just sex.

The problem is that most girls aren't interested in a real relationship until they're used up. Pop culture and mass media also glorify bad boys and thugs while making nice guys into a stereotype that Anglo girls shouldn't want or desire. (When most Anglo women turn 30-40 they want a stable nice guy for financial reasons. She would have already slept with 10-40 guys so the nice guy wouldn't be getting a "good girl" as his woman).

[leavingusa]

Nice guy is not the stuff of sexual fantasies, men are only needed now for sexual pleasure, not money.

So the men who would normally have been married because they were hard working are now completely out of the game in favor of guys who give evidence that they can deliver the goods sexually, provide a status boost or have a LOT of money.

A nice guy isn't necessarily bad at sex. They could have just the same sexual fantasies as any other guy. There isn't really a difference in terms of delivering the goods sexually except the nice guy might also give her more attention in the bedroom and would value a woman for more than just sex.

The problem is that most girls aren't interested in a real relationship until they're used up. Pop culture and mass media also glorify bad boys and thugs while making nice guys into a stereotype that Anglo girls shouldn't want or desire. (When most Anglo women turn 30-40 they want a stable nice guy for financial reasons. She would have already slept with 10-40 guys so the nice guy wouldn't be getting a "good girl" as his woman).

You have to think like a woman to understand them.

Like when a woman sees a broke guy with a blinged out ride and says "he must be rich" and ignores the millionaire next door with the 7 year old car that's paid for "he's broke".

Same thing with sex, she'll pick the guy with the tats and the attitude even if he's all bluff.

Women don't want "attention in the bedroom" that's beta boy stuff.

The guys that are giving head and all that don't understand women. Women are not like men, it's not about sexual gratification for them, it's about submitting to a dominant man and doing whatever he wants.

Nice guys are submissive, they would spend 20 minutes eating her p***y and giving her multiple orgasms when she just wants to be used like a dish rag by a guy who is way above her in value. Of course nice guys also tend to have low status.

Think about the highest status guys like rock stars, women love them for sex only even though typically they give them very little attention.

It's the oldest story in the book, "I would treat her so much better", that's missing the point.

[Ginger]

[Falcon]

All that's enough is this old post from Grunt:

viewtopic.php?t=6819

Well, for the average spoiled immature neurotic American female that has never worked a day in its life and never gone to sleep hungry, there is a certain attraction to the "thrill".

On the other hand, there are millions of young girls in other nations that never have enough food money and live in a very "exciting" situation on a day-to-day basis. And I mean "exciting" in the Old Chinese Proverb kinda way.

As for myself, my entire youth was pissed away bumbling through one life-ruining miscalculation to another, from military misadventure to sexual frustration has tempered me greatly. Likewise, my wife, being from Ukraine, had enough "thrill" by the time she was 10 to know the true value of stability and responsibility.

So in the end, I have inadvertently discovered the hidden underbelly of rot filth and decay that infects the entire American culture. Literal armies of backstabbing douchebags trying to paint me as a pedophile or woman-hater, even as most of them themselves are dope addicts, child abusers, drunks, child molesters, rapists, crooked businessmen, police informants or God knows what else.

But here I stand, happily married and retired at age 40.

A few weeks ago I read perhaps the most defining of our social paradigm. It was a news report about a 23 year old American female that walked out of a bar, drunk of course, and hopped on the back of a Harley-Davidson ridden by a complete and total stranger. Five minutes later she lay dead on the side of the road, and the rider was headed to prison for DUI and mansluaghter with a wrecked bike tossed in for good measure.

The moron skank attracted to the "thrill" of the "bad boy", resulting in both idiots permanently removed from the gene pool. I sit back with a bowl of popcorn and a smile.

[Teal Lantern]

Here's a current story.
Teh wimmenz love their bad boys & excitement, no?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... s-say.html

[skateboardstephen]

Nice guy is not the stuff of sexual fantasies, men are only needed now for sexual pleasure, not money.

So the men who would normally have been married because they were hard working are now completely out of the game in favor of guys who give evidence that they can deliver the goods sexually, provide a status boost or have a LOT of money.

A nice guy isn't necessarily bad at sex. They could have just the same sexual fantasies as any other guy. There isn't really a difference in terms of delivering the goods sexually except the nice guy might also give her more attention in the bedroom and would value a woman for more than just sex.

The problem is that most girls aren't interested in a real relationship until they're used up. Pop culture and mass media also glorify bad boys and thugs while making nice guys into a stereotype that Anglo girls shouldn't want or desire. (When most Anglo women turn 30-40 they want a stable nice guy for financial reasons. She would have already slept with 10-40 guys so the nice guy wouldn't be getting a "good girl" as his woman).

You have to think like a woman to understand them.

Like when a woman sees a broke guy with a blinged out ride and says "he must be rich" and ignores the millionaire next door with the 7 year old car that's paid for "he's broke".

Same thing with sex, she'll pick the guy with the tats and the attitude even if he's all bluff.

Women don't want "attention in the bedroom" that's beta boy stuff.

The guys that are giving head and all that don't understand women. Women are not like men, it's not about sexual gratification for them, it's about submitting to a dominant man and doing whatever he wants.

Nice guys are submissive, they would spend 20 minutes eating her p***y and giving her multiple or****s when she just wants to be used like a dish rag by a guy who is way above her in value. Of course nice guys also tend to have low status.

Think about the highest status guys like rock stars, women love them for sex only even though typically they give them very little attention.

It's the oldest story in the book, "I would treat her so much better", that's missing the point.

Missing the point yeah mabey so, but f**k that! the nice guy is the type of guys they say they want so you can get on them too much.None of this beta alpha shit really matters much once one leaves the states anyway.So f**k em they can call me a beta all day but i having a good time and getting mine now and i am still young at 28.I do agree with the constructive advise presented but i have seen what happens when i succeeded with American women.It all ways turns into a head ache even when you do not even have to try that hard to get the ass.So if they so called betas succeed with them they will be met with more headaches.It best to just get out of the states.

[leavingusa]

Nice guy is not the stuff of sexual fantasies, men are only needed now for sexual pleasure, not money.

So the men who would normally have been married because they were hard working are now completely out of the game in favor of guys who give evidence that they can deliver the goods sexually, provide a status boost or have a LOT of money.

A nice guy isn't necessarily bad at sex. They could have just the same sexual fantasies as any other guy. There isn't really a difference in terms of delivering the goods sexually except the nice guy might also give her more attention in the bedroom and would value a woman for more than just sex.

The problem is that most girls aren't interested in a real relationship until they're used up. Pop culture and mass media also glorify bad boys and thugs while making nice guys into a stereotype that Anglo girls shouldn't want or desire. (When most Anglo women turn 30-40 they want a stable nice guy for financial reasons. She would have already slept with 10-40 guys so the nice guy wouldn't be getting a "good girl" as his woman).

You have to think like a woman to understand them.

Like when a woman sees a broke guy with a blinged out ride and says "he must be rich" and ignores the millionaire next door with the 7 year old car that's paid for "he's broke".

Same thing with sex, she'll pick the guy with the tats and the attitude even if he's all bluff.

Women don't want "attention in the bedroom" that's beta boy stuff.

The guys that are giving head and all that don't understand women. Women are not like men, it's not about sexual gratification for them, it's about submitting to a dominant man and doing whatever he wants.

Nice guys are submissive, they would spend 20 minutes eating her p***y and giving her multiple or****s when she just wants to be used like a dish rag by a guy who is way above her in value. Of course nice guys also tend to have low status.

Think about the highest status guys like rock stars, women love them for sex only even though typically they give them very little attention.

It's the oldest story in the book, "I would treat her so much better", that's missing the point.

Missing the point yeah mabey so, but f**k that! the nice guy is the type of guys they say they want so you can get on them too much.None of this beta alpha shit really matters much once one leaves the states anyway.So f**k em they can call me a beta all day but i having a good time and getting mine now and i am still young at 28.I do agree with the constructive advise presented but i have seen what happens when i succeeded with American women.It all ways turns into a head ache even when you do not even have to try that hard to get the a**.So if they so called betas succeed with them they will be met with more headaches.It best to just get out of the states.

All women are like that, you can see it with the foreign women who come here that it is their natural state.

Remember we're talking about sex here, not relationships. Nice guy is only accepted for relationship, in other cultures there is more need for relationship, that's all.

If you're the type of "nice guy" that's into S&M then sure but she'll have a hard time knowing that about you.

[Andrewww]

@leavingusa, you are making false assumptions:

All women are like that, you can see it with the foreign women who come here that it is their natural state.

Nope, I live in a city full of foreign women, most of them don't turn into whores overnight. They don't break up or divorce with their men for some tatoo freak.

There are "alpha" women as well as "beta" women if you wanna call them that. Western society nowadays creates sluts because these women grow up in a care free environment where they are brainwashed into thinking that life is an easy ride and that they are all (upcoming) movie stars. These women no longer have family values because they grow up in messed up families (divorted or too busy to put them on the right path). Add in feminism which teaches them that every woman is a princess and they grow up to become parasites with no clear purpose in life.

[Tsar]

There are "alpha" women as well as "beta" women if you wanna call them that. Western society nowadays creates sluts because these women grow up in a care free environment where they are brainwashed into thinking that life is an easy ride and that they are all (upcoming) movie stars. These women no longer have family values because they grow up in messed up families (divorted or too busy to put them on the right path). Add in feminism which teaches them that every woman is a princess and they grow up to become parasites with no clear purpose in life.

Feminism also teaches Western girls to be sluts, man-haters, and think they can get away with anything just because they're female.