Epidemic of Male virgins in America

[Jester]

Reflecting back on my youth, christ-insanity inhibited me from making the moves necessary to get where I want to go in life. It stops me from getting laid, it stopped me from seeking power, and it placated me with greener pastures int he afterlife. it has a good effect in the lives of some, but for myself, and most other people that I know that actually tried to follow its tenets rather than bash others with it as a weapon and hide behind it as a shield, it was dead weight.

I am a Bible-Believing, Full-Gospel Catholic Christian, and I agree with every word you said.

The way Christianity gets censored and preached in the USA, and by Americans in other countries, has become toxic, unnatural, contrary to common sense.

In the Bible, Old and New Testaments alike (excepting perhaps the Letters of Paul, which are another story (thread), it is clear that God wants HIS children to RULE.

[Jester]

You know what? Sex as a score is a flawed concept. First off: trying to impress other men with your screwing-around abilities is pretty gay- even though someone might not be that way or really have thought about much, it's a fairly fruity thing to do. It doesn't fall off over time, plenty of the act is instinct & you'd get better with whoever you're with anyway (the stuff that works for one woman doesn't always work for another).

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Another thing is that a guy might very well be worried about landing in a Jerry Springer Lifestyle

There but for the grace of God go I.

The only reason I took action to "lose it" as a teen was peer pressure.

[Paloaltoguy]

Male virgins above a certain age are usually nature's way of weeding out the weak, the indecisive and the unfit from procreating. Not counting those who remain virgins for religious reasons who may very well marry and have families of their own at one point.

The type of man who cannot get laid and instead whines about his lack of action from behind his cosy chair & desk at home, is not the type of guy that Mother Nature and God intended to procreate in the first place. A male virgin often is a man without drive or passion, without power or conviction. He does a lot of contemplating, complaining and reflecting, but very little to actually combat the situation he is in. He cries over what he lacks, but does very little to make up for it.

A male virgin in his twenties or older is seen as a defective human being by most. And harsh as this may sound, there is a lot of common sense in that. Because if you live in a country with an abundance of sluts and easy, immoral women, there really is no reason for you not to get laid and your inability to do so hints at a problem on your part.

The virgin Western male is a male who failed to adapt to a society that is corrupt, and who simultaneously refused to leave said society for greener pastures. He wants his cake and eat it too, but never takes the walk to the bakery so he remains hungry.

Bingo!

[Ghost]

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[Contrarian Expatriate]

Lesbianism, coupled with an already low number of women to men, has made the numbers skewed against men in dating. Fat, ordinary women are now overvalued and many men of substance and wealth are scoffed at.

These are the conditions where good men in American need to expatriate to other countries.

At a certain point after men start departing, the value of men will go back up again, but that is a long way off.

[Ghost]

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[matthewcoury]

Ghost is right.....just because you have a country full of sluts doesnt mean its easy to find a woman.....those women are having sex with like the top 5-10% of men in the US of Gay......the more guys i talk to the more are opening up and telling me that they are finding the same thing.....one friend of mine i had no idea didnt think he had any trouble getting a girlfriend.....he just told me he has been without a girlfriend since he broke up with his ex.....that was four years ago....then another guy im talking to today told me he was single and we're sitting there laughing talking about how its impossible to get a hot woman in america unless you have a ferrari.....that is such a common joke among men today in the US of Gay its ridiculous....so much so that there are videos on it....even being wealthy and good looking today guarantees you nothing in the US of Gay

[Repatriate]

Male virgins above a certain age are usually nature's way of weeding out the weak, the indecisive and the unfit from procreating. Not counting those who remain virgins for religious reasons who may very well marry and have families of their own at one point.

The type of man who cannot get laid and instead whines about his lack of action from behind his cosy chair & desk at home, is not the type of guy that Mother Nature and God intended to procreate in the first place. A male virgin often is a man without drive or passion, without power or conviction. He does a lot of contemplating, complaining and reflecting, but very little to actually combat the situation he is in. He cries over what he lacks, but does very little to make up for it.

A male virgin in his twenties or older is seen as a defective human being by most. And harsh as this may sound, there is a lot of common sense in that. Because if you live in a country with an abundance of sluts and easy, immoral women, there really is no reason for you not to get laid and your inability to do so hints at a problem on your part.

The virgin Western male is a male who failed to adapt to a society that is corrupt, and who simultaneously refused to leave said society for greener pastures. He wants his cake and eat it too, but never takes the walk to the bakery so he remains hungry.

This is the truth of the matter.

The impression I get is that most basement dweller virgins are so beat down mentally and emotionally that they become neurotic and toxic. A lot of them form very weird views when it comes to women. They either have artificially inflated standards..they desire perfect 10 virgins with hearts of gold or they have simply given up and live in the world of porn and sitcoms.

You can't underestimate the effect of family influences either. Some guys have lame relatives who will keep them trapped in a cycle of dependency or even worse shame them into settling with some nasty beast.

[droid]

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1)
"Because if you live in a country with an abundance of sluts and easy, immoral women, there really is no reason for you not to get laid and your inability to do so hints at a problem on your part."
You don't know shit, you haven't lived in America.
Although it seems you would do great here. See #2 below.

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"The virgin Western male is a male who failed to adapt to a society that is corrupt"
Not everyone is willing to easily settle for an ugly/fat woman way below their league....
Also see #1

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"Male virgins above a certain age are usually nature's way of weeding out the weak, the indecisive and the unfit from procreating"
Way to stroke the retarded "I'm Nietzche" fantasy of PAF.
These amateur re-born Nietzcheians crack me up, on the same breath they cry about 'compassion', how 'race doesn't exist' etc lol

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"The type of man who cannot get laid and instead whines about his lack of action from behind his cosy chair & desk at home, is not the type of guy that Mother Nature and God intended to procreate in the first place. A male virgin often is a man without drive or passion, without power or conviction."
Related to #3, One word: Tesla

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Before I get called "virgin": No virgin here, just standing for truth.
There are a lot of decent men of integrity suffering in silence here. Your spitting on their character like this needs to be called out.


To sum it up:
You talked out of your ass this time. You pretend to be HA but engage in the same shaming tactics that have been addressed a hundred times. Pretty useless.

[droid]

Lesbianism, coupled with an already low number of [quality] women to men, has made the numbers skewed against men in dating. Fat, ordinary women are now overvalued and many men of substance and wealth are scoffed at.
These are the conditions where good men in American need to expatriate to other countries.
At a certain point after men start departing, the value of men will go back up again, but that is a long way off.

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Truth

[Cornfed]

I've seen too many average looking and not-so-wealthy guys with girlfriends and wives for me to believe in this at all. If you cannot have SEX in the West it means you simply lack action & social skills.

The methods Western sluts use to select men to have sex with have been explained many times on this forum. Generally the man is paying them in some way or the man is reproductively superior to other men, which is to say he is a stupid asshole, as explained in this thread:
viewtopic.php?t=20929

If a man is not getting sex then it means that he can't or won't afford the price or he is not good breeding material in this society, which is to say he is not scum. Yes there are exceptions, but they are exeptions. Maybe it is different in Holland, but that is the way of things in the Anglosphere.

[Taco]

More American women are going pro using websites like "Seeking Arrangement" where they get paid up to $3500 per "date". That's another reason most guys are still virgins.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/

[Ghost]

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[Contrarian Expatriate]

A male virgin in the USA very likely does not have any STDs, he is child support payment-free, and he is free to accumulate big wealth.

Not such a bad thing when you look at it closely. Virgins like Cornfed should count their blessings instead of seething in jealousy at men who are getting sex.

[mattyman]

About the 'drive and ambition' bit;

Being isolated, and having not had many good experiences, as well as listening to shameless drivel is not going to bring the best out of on is it?

How are useless shaming tactics towards people who are virgins supposed to help them anyway? All that will happen is that it will make them feel bad about their situation and make them fear being judged negatively when they do get to that stage with a woman. Most of that 'you're defective if you're a virgin beyond said age' narrative is a load of f***ing rubbish.

There's an enourmous variety of reasons why someone maybe in the above predicament. They simply may not get to meet nice girls, don't have the social opportunities to gain-access to nice women that are not sluts, they may not like the idea of short-term flings, yet can't find women that are not like that.

As for the social anxiety bit; given how negative some people's experiences have been, how hostile their social environments were, it really is no surprise and you can't really blame people for it.

In cases where social problems have played a role, how is using shaming language, or telling them that they're losers going to help them improve it? How is it going to help them to like and accept themselves?

Oh,
"A male virgin in the USA very likely does not have any STDs, he is child support payment-free, and he is free to accumulate big wealth.

Not such a bad thing when you look at it closely. Virgins like Cornfed should count their blessings instead of seething in jealousy at men who are getting sex."
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