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Discuss what's wrong with American women. Share problems, experiences and stories about them and why they suck so bad that you've had to resort to dating abroad and foreign women.
Ghost wrote:
As far as I know the only ones who get away with marriage 1.0 are the devout religious communities that stay isolated from the mainstream culture. Other than that, the prisons and streets own many men who thought they were entering into real marriages.
That is just not true. Far from it. Religious helps. So does education. So does not getting married too young or getting knocked up too young.
Much like gun safety stats, married stats apply to nobody. Aside from freak accidents usually morons get themselves killed in homes owning guns. Likewise there is a large gap between the cletuses of the world and upstanding types. Again exceptions blah blah.
Marriage has been harmed greatly by the feminist movement; however, this thread really exaggerates the problems pretty dramatically. Too much of that angry MGTOW bullshit isn't healthy.
There is a documentary on Netflix called Divorce Corp., which is a documentary that tries to shine light on how corrupt the family law court system is, and how the lawyers/judges work together to extract every last cent from those going through family court in a divorce/custody case. And there are major consequences if you complain. Don't get married.
Men, this is the reality you are facing if you get married. 60% of marriages these days end in divorce. It's not worth it. You are better off taking 50% of your net worth and placing it on a hand of black jack. There is no woman out there that is worth any of the trouble that will happen if she wants a divorce. This is the grim reality. Read all the bullet points I listed of what happens when you go through a divorce and have to go to family court, and tell me if you want to still get married afterward, as there is a 60% chance this will happen to you no matter what you do.
First and foremost the Family Law code is very large and complex. In the documentary they show a book full of all the Family Law Laws & Regulations, its huge. So in order to understand it, you need a lawyer.
They then brought in a conga line of Family Law lawyers saying they charge $500, $600, $700 an hour. They are not cheap.
Therefore the people decide to represent themselves. But the judges will get irritated at these people, and will purposely be biased against them until they fork over the dough for expensive legal representation. In other words, you have no choice but to hire a family law lawyer.
These family law lawyers will purposely file a bunch of bullshit motions just to drag out a divorce case, in order to extract every last cent from their clients. A lot of people featured on this program went completely bankrupt and lost everything because of these greedy lawyers milking them for everything they owned. They would put liens on houses, for example, to make sure they got paid.
The lawyers and judges have a parasitic, symbiotic relationship that thrives on kickbacks, corruption and collusion. The documentary exposed that the winners of these divorce cases generally tend to be whoever had the attorney who donated most to the election campaign of the judge.
These family court judges are able to be judges one day, and attorneys the next, and vice versa.
For custody battles, the judges force parents to pay for expensive "Custody Evaluators". Of course, the judges force these parents to pick one of their own handpicked evaluators, who obviously kickback some of that money back to the judge.
These custody evaluators require no special certifications, licenses, or training. One of the evaluators exposed on the program was a filthy rich faggot, literally. They showed a bunch of pictures of this guy requesting "bareback anal sex" amongst other things, and wearing dominatrix clothing. And he wasn't ashamed to admit it. And this is the guy who is deciding whether or not you are a good parent. A faggot riding the gay cock carousel. And he was still employed and forced onto parents as a custody evaluator even after he appeared on the documentary.
A family court judge was secretly filmed on camera beating the shit out of his disabled daughter with a belt. He was not punished in any way, and is still a family court judge today.
The first amendment doesn't matter in family court. You have no rights. One guy was sentenced to 5 years in prison for "judge intimidation" because he criticized his family court judge on his blog. 5 years in prison. Think about it.
Another guy was senteneced to 60 days in jail for criticizing his family court judge on his Facebook. He was offered the option of writing an apology every day for 60 days, or serving out the jail sentence. It even showed video footage of the judge handing down his ruling, saying "You are no warrior for the 1st amendment", basically mocking the guy for trying to use the 1st amendment as a defense.
One guy was fired for his job because he filed an appeal of his case because he thought he had a biased judge. He was biased because his ex's attorney was good friends with the judge and donated heavily to his election campaign. This judge retaliated by calling up his job and getting him fired because he had a friend in an executive position there.
These judges will use their tyranny to prevent men featured on the documentary(and a couple of women, to be fair) to prevent them from seeing their children at all. A lot of the parents featured haven't seen their kids in years because of these corrupt judges ruling against them because they complained, or had an attorney the judge didn't like, etc.
These judges are above the law. Out of the 1,000+ complaints against Family Court Judges in California in 2014, not one was ever led to any kind of discipline against a judge.
There is a lot more in this documentary that I didn't list, this is just what I remember from watching it for the first time last night. It made me rage for the entire duration.
books wrote:There is a documentary on Netflix called Divorce Corp., which is a documentary that tries to shine light on how corrupt the family law court system is, and how the lawyers/judges work together to extract every last cent from those going through family court in a divorce/custody case. And there are major consequences if you complain. Don't get married.
Men, this is the reality you are facing if you get married. 60% of marriages these days end in divorce. It's not worth it. You are better off taking 50% of your net worth and placing it on a hand of black jack. There is no woman out there that is worth any of the trouble that will happen if she wants a divorce. This is the grim reality. Read all the bullet points I listed of what happens when you go through a divorce and have to go to family court, and tell me if you want to still get married afterward, as there is a 60% chance this will happen to you no matter what you do.
There is a lot more in this documentary that I didn't list, this is just what I remember from watching it for the first time last night. It made me rage for the entire duration.
Never get married.
I agree. men in America should NEVER get married, with the divorce laws stacked in the woman's favor, men lose out not just financially but also emotionally as well (not being able to see their children).
"When I think about the idea of getting involved with an American woman, I don't know if I should laugh .............. or vomit!"
"Trying to meet women in America is like trying to decipher Egyptian hieroglyphics."
@Books: Here's the thing. You correctly point out that marriage is a bad deal for men. Then you blast P4P (including light P4P aka sugar babying with just one sugar daddy), which is a way for single mothers to support themselves. So if no marriage and also no single mothers doing P4P to support themselves, that means either no children and hence lots of immigration, or else lots of taxes on men and welfare to single mothers so these women don't have to do P4P. Now how does either of these options help men? You just want to bitch like a little bitch, or you want to deal with reality like a grown man? Or maybe you're another fundamentalist talking out his fundament whose real goal is to get rid of heterosexual sex altogether, same goal as the feminists.
That's the thing. I live in Texas, and I was in the gym the other day - talking with a friend of mine. He was saying how we're getting all this immigration from California, there are really tons of people coming here from California - transplants. When he asked these liberal Californians, "why'd you come here?" they all said "taxes are way too high." So, they voted Democratic, which inevitably comes with higher taxation - and they knew that, but when everything actually came...they couldn't handle it & ditched and went somewhere else. He got really mad, and I don't blame him! He said..."So what, are you just going to come here and mess this state up, now, because of you can't take responsibility for your own actions!?"
What's probably going to happen is now they'll vote Democrat here for free stuff. Then when Texas' strong economy falls under Democratic policy an high taxation, they'll leave and go somewhere else - like an invading parasite. These people can't/won't take responsibility for their actions.
Ghost wrote:
As far as I know the only ones who get away with marriage 1.0 are the devout religious communities that stay isolated from the mainstream culture. Other than that, the prisons and streets own many men who thought they were entering into real marriages.
At one point in time, Ghost.... that was very true. But if you step foot into a church today, you find the same, reformed, "polarity-shifted to the extreme" kind of women. I've tried this. 2 women. One was formerly hooked on hard drugs, the other was a former prostitute- However, both found christ and could not stop talking about his glory. And for the record, I wouldn't allow former druggies and prostitutes to give me any cues on "Integrity". And believe me, those two women tried this with me and I shut them down quickly.... Like a snake striking at an enemy. I know, it sounds snobby. But this is life, guys. Don't let harlots of any variety tell you that you suck. This is how they dumb their victims down.
Maybe if I were a complete utter looser who had gone the paths these women have already gone, I would take them seriously. But unfortunately, I was a little more informed with the decisions I made in my life ( Both of these women tried to insult me for making good decisions- amazing. ) and going down the paths they traveled was never an option I would consider. This is not to say they are bad people, but good men should never entertain the notion of getting involved with women of even slightly abject character.
feminists love marriage in general, because they can extract easily the vast majority of the wealth of the husband in the courts which are all biased heavily pro-women
and knowing the fact that over 60% (some say as high as 70%) of marriages end invariably in divorce,
this is a goldmine for feminists.
look at Forbes Richest Top 500.
Almost all women who are there, are there only because they either inherited the billions,
or they obtained through divorces
Quiet_observer wrote:
At one point in time, Ghost.... that was very true. But if you step foot into a church today, you find the same, reformed, "polarity-shifted to the extreme" kind of women. I've tried this. 2 women. One was formerly hooked on hard drugs, the other was a former prostitute- However, both found christ and could not stop talking about his glory. And for the record, I wouldn't allow former druggies and prostitutes to give me any cues on "Integrity". And believe me, those two women tried this with me and I shut them down quickly.... Like a snake striking at an enemy. I know, it sounds snobby. But this is life, guys. Don't let harlots of any variety tell you that you suck. This is how they dumb their victims down.
Maybe if I were a complete utter looser who had gone the paths these women have already gone, I would take them seriously. But unfortunately, I was a little more informed with the decisions I made in my life ( Both of these women tried to insult me for making good decisions- amazing. ) and going down the paths they traveled was never an option I would consider. This is not to say they are bad people, but good men should never entertain the notion of getting involved with women of even slightly abject character.
Oh, definitely. Chruchian women are often the worst because they work a lot harder to disguise their feminism and misandry. I know exactly what you mean about women shaming men who make good decisions. (Of course the women shouting that bullshit always have made bad decisions - usually over and over again.) Churches in America are dead. Most of them involve vapid sermons, money-grubbing, and anti-Biblical trash like feminism and misandry being pushed on the congregations. (Most of the congregation being female of course. Don't want to speak the truth and alienate those tithers!) I'll go so far as to say churchian females are the worst in the U.S. Certainly among the most dangerous.
+20,000 to you, Ghost. Love this post, It is precisely in-line with what I deeply feel
bostero wrote:Marriage has been harmed greatly by the feminist movement; however, this thread really exaggerates the problems pretty dramatically. Too much of that angry MGTOW bullshit isn't healthy.
Have you been abroad yet? The problem really is that bad in America. MGTOW is a necessary response.
bostero wrote:Marriage has been harmed greatly by the feminist movement; however, this thread really exaggerates the problems pretty dramatically. Too much of that angry MGTOW bullshit isn't healthy.
Have you been abroad yet? The problem really is that bad in America. MGTOW is a necessary response.
+5000. Huge problem in America. Don't let Americans fool you into thinking "Its worse in other places" - Its the excuse they often default to when things are well out of their control.
bostero wrote:Marriage has been harmed greatly by the feminist movement; however, this thread really exaggerates the problems pretty dramatically. Too much of that angry MGTOW bullshit isn't healthy.
Have you been abroad yet? The problem really is that bad in America. MGTOW is a necessary response.
+5000. Huge problem in America. Don't let Americans fool you into thinking "Its worse in other places" - Its the excuse they often default to when things are well out of their control.
I live over seas now and absolutely shun anyone who say MGTOW is not necessary. Anyone who says that either hasn't lived in America or is blind to Family Court or its corrupt laws. Women get away with absolute murder and if you do any research, a lot of these women know they can take men to the cleaners, openly declare they will take men to the cleaners, and more importantly, DO take men to the cleaners.
The result of this absolutely emotional, financially and spiritual raping of a man with penalty of imprisonment when you fail to pay results in the suicide rates being 11x times higher for divorced men.
Anyone who ISN'T ANGRY, doesn't have a bone of justice in them.
Women get to do real life threating damaging, but if men just happen to be angry on a forum, God forbid, they shouldnt do that!
We are talking about pretty much the war on men in the west and the destruction of the nuclear family. If someone cannot contemplate how disastrous that is for a country, then please, go live in America, get married, and send me your regards.
I use to believe that if you did the right thing, you would be safe under the court of law. You are not.
And this isn't a jab at you. Just those anti-MGTOW nay-sayers out there.
