How many Americans plan on leaving before november?

[Wolfeye]

See, I'd think it would just turn into a shithole. Americans seem to LIKE "aww, it's such a shame" or "that's f***ed-up!" type of shit- that would have an effect. They've never, in my experience, been destructive toward things like that- point of fact, they've always been stridently against a "Good Wolf vs Bad Wolf" style ethics. Sometimes they'd even take the argument to the point of disregarding reality (much like lots of other problems here).

Another issue would be their rigidity. They seem to have major issues with changing things- they never unmake laws, they usually "paint over" any problems, and don't change the esteem they hold things in (even when they might be mortally dangerous). There's not much ability to fix things & any that rears its head usually gets managed out of existence by people that supposedly "mean well."

[OutWest]

Every American I speak to says they are most certainly leaving. But what I find interesting is.... this isnt like the threat many Americans made when Bush Jr was elected for a second term... I actually believe many of todays Americans are serious about leaving this time. What do you guys think about this? Are Americans full of hot air or not?

However you work it,. Have a backup plan that is practical. We are in the USA now, but we are set to return to the Philippines any time.
If that does not work...we have a stout 48 ft blue water sailboat. A few tears in the south seas would be fine.

[Jonny Law]

The answer is ZERO Fuckers!

Americans are too addicted to:
1. Welfare
2. Medicare / Medicaid
3. Section 8 - public housing
4. Food Stamps

Americans are not going anywhere.

[Citizen]

The answer is ZERO Fuckers!

Americans are too addicted to:
1. Welfare
2. Medicare / Medicaid
3. Section 8 - public housing
4. Food Stamps

Americans are not going anywhere.

That is so true.

[OutWest]

The answer is ZERO Fuckers!

Americans are too addicted to:
1. Welfare
2. Medicare / Medicaid
3. Section 8 - public housing
4. Food Stamps

Americans are not going anywhere.

That is so true.

Someone is paying for all that crap. THAT is the group that may want to leave.

[Wolfeye]

Seriously? Those are the four you figure they're not leaving because of? Come on, guys- give narcissistic supply a place on the list! These people feel like they're so friggin' great because they're what they consider to be an American (come here as an adult & get citizenship, not so much).

Really nothing more. Nothing about themselves, even the stuff they can't quite put in to words. Not real destructive toward tragedy & travesty, not bolstering of other shit, not quite the "quixotic" people they are generally portrayed as on TV & movies- damn sure not very open & honest about much of anything. They'll play to what they figure will win them an argument or get them looking good, but that's more or less the end of it.

They feel like they're the shit because of all the customer service (never mind that it winds up being for a bullshit product that doesn't work as advertised- this includes medical actions & lawsuits in response to iatrogenic attack, not just computer & car shit).

They feel like all the stuff they have makes them even better- f**k the idea of living with less, but actually having time to live their lives (even if it WAS in America). They'll put themselves in debt to have shit that they don't get to use because they're too busy paying it off or dealing with the demands of a job they're in a dire situation if they lose.

In America, shit frequently doesn't work right- so they feel like they're the shit because they can figure out what's wrong with the next round of problems that anyone that isn't retarded or up to something wouldn't likely do in the first place. I don't think a lot of people can identify with those that cause these things, however they do it, so they just decide it's not the case.

[Nomad]

The answer is ZERO Fuckers!

Americans are too addicted to:
1. Welfare
2. Medicare / Medicaid
3. Section 8 - public housing
4. Food Stamps

Americans are not going anywhere.

That is so true.

Someone is paying for all that crap. THAT is the group that may want to leave.

I left. Never felt happier about it. I remember when I quit my job and tried to file for unemployment. They basically just said "nope". They took 10 years of taxes but when it was "my turn" to get help, they basically told me to F off. Now they get 0.

[Blue Murder]

I left. Never felt happier about it. I remember when I quit my job and tried to file for unemployment. They basically just said "nope". They took 10 years of taxes but when it was "my turn" to get help, they basically told me to F off. Now they get 0.

Isn' there a law for Americans living abroad (even former citizens) that have to pay taxes? Personally, if I'm not living in the USA and am no longer a citizen, they'll have to go up themselves, but I remember such a law being hot a few years back.

[Quiet_observer]

Mad max scenario in less than 100 days...

Chaos Will Erupt Across America In Less Than 100 days... No Matter Who Wins The Election
http://www.naturalnews.com/055146_socia ... evolt.html

That really ought to frighten all single guys into fleeing America! Chaos erupts, violent riots in even a quarter of America's cities, and Americans will really grow hateful and paranoid to the point where just riding through a residential area on your bicycle and/or approaching within less than 300 feet of a woman gets you blasted by about twenty-five AK-47s and maybe even an IED or two, and nobody even bothers to call the paramedics! Before you know it, men are permanently banned under Federal law from all bars, nightclubs, strip clubs, Meetup groups, singles events; yes, even from restaurants, beaches, city and county parks, shopping malls, zoos, conservatories, water parks, public swimming pools, amusement parks, county fairs, you name it. And men who go to such places or even leave the house except for work are immediately taken down with maximum lethal force. Before you know it, Afghanistan, safetywise, is a walk in the park compared to the United States of America. Not only would many Americans beg for Martial law, they'll be begging even for the permanent destruction of the U.S. Constitution and begging for North Korea in America. And I'm sure many will even be begging the government to divide the country by gender, men on one side, women on the other side, and put a 300+ mile wide military zone in between.

I'm sure something like that will even completely reverse the entire immigration flow at the Mexican border. Unless of course it's blocked off by the military zone so that men can never get to it, and then the poor ones have one choice of escape; tie some logs together to make a raft, make a mast and sail out of a tree branch and a bed spread or a tarp, and sail across the Gulf to Mexico or Central/South America.

Unfortunately, you're onto something there. In the states, there is a higher percentage of mental illness and a higher percentage of white people who hate blacks for no other reason than its a trend. ( Yet, they blast rap music in their cars and try to act black to intimidate people- retards ) Most whites have no black friends or have had any interactions with black people but hate them none the less. Any situation where I see one black among many whites, the whites are the bloody FIRST to remind him or her that she is black. Most of the time, they think they are somehow being witty. I see this everyday here. And I am concerned. There will be some kind of genocide in the us. America and its people are too bloody racist and are not on the same page to avoid or avert one. For the record, In the time ive been in the states, i can say only 2 americans have passed my tricky moral compass test. And these 2 americans are the ones I'll be bringing back home with me soon. They dont know it yet. But I think they are ready for a change and ready to be part of an accepting community.

[Blue Murder]

For the record, In the time ive been in the states, i can say only 2 americans have passed my tricky moral compass test. And these 2 americans are the ones I'll be bringing back home with me soon. They dont know it yet. But I think they are ready for a change and ready to be part of an accepting community.

Mind elaborating a bit?

[Quiet_observer]

For the record, In the time ive been in the states, i can say only 2 americans have passed my tricky moral compass test. And these 2 americans are the ones I'll be bringing back home with me soon. They dont know it yet. But I think they are ready for a change and ready to be part of an accepting community.

Mind elaborating a bit?

On that point? Not really. Feb/Mar of 2017 I'll publish a very detailed blog on it and link it here. I CAN however say that I am NOT the only Euro in America seeking to extract the remaining good souls from this soil.....

[Blue Murder]

On that point? Not really. Feb/Mar of 2017 I'll publish a very detailed blog on it and link it here. I CAN however say that I am NOT the only Euro in America seeking to extract the remaining good souls from this soil.....

Ohhh. Check those PMs mate.

[Devil Dog]

I left. Never felt happier about it. I remember when I quit my job and tried to file for unemployment. They basically just said "nope". They took 10 years of taxes but when it was "my turn" to get help, they basically told me to F off. Now they get 0.

Isn' there a law for Americans living abroad (even former citizens) that have to pay taxes? Personally, if I'm not living in the USA and am no longer a citizen, they'll have to go up themselves, but I remember such a law being hot a few years back.

HA is where I go for tax advice.

[Quiet_observer]

I left. Never felt happier about it. I remember when I quit my job and tried to file for unemployment. They basically just said "nope". They took 10 years of taxes but when it was "my turn" to get help, they basically told me to F off. Now they get 0.

Isn' there a law for Americans living abroad (even former citizens) that have to pay taxes? Personally, if I'm not living in the USA and am no longer a citizen, they'll have to go up themselves, but I remember such a law being hot a few years back.

Yes, that law is still very hot. In fact, it is WHITE HOT in some parts of the schengen than others...
Also: https://www.euractiv.com/section/global ... as-scheme/

[Wolfeye]

So, basically they'll try to rake in more cash to give to the asshole "refugees"? But Greece will be managing this situation? And since it's on the balls of its ass, they'll likely swipe quite a bit of this money that they should be getting from Germany (since Germany's offer of papers with no questions asked brought quite a bit of this assholes to Greece's shores). But then Germany will probably start waggling its finger at Greece for it & act like it should take command of that situation. So now it has more money to pump into facilitating its refugee actions (ex: more to give them, more to spend on bullshit media, more to spend on breaking the public's balls when they call things for what it is, etc...).

How much does citizenship cost in one of the countries that are less "regimented" (or whatever it's called- places like Bulgaria, Serbia, Bolivia, etc...)? How does someone broach the subject without getting into shit? I'd think a few grand would do it, but what about just getting plain robbed of the money you'd give them? It's like trying to bribe a cop- they'd theoretically just arrest you & steal all of it to begin with, but not always.