You Can't Be A MGTOW And Be Married At The Same Time

[yick]

In USA there are plenty of hateful feminist groups, hating ALL straight men, and what about them?

That's right, they have something of a negative reputation amongst most decent people in the west, shouty, angry, militant and ugly - they are the words most people conjure up when they think of 'feminist' but on the other hand, it doesn't matter what most feminists think, say or do - it is important that MGTOW does not follow that doctrine of hate, that they follow the feminist lowest common denominator of behavior. The great thing is, MGTOW is still in its infancy, what is going to stop its growth is men lamenting about white women because they won't have sex with them - why would anyone take them seriously if that is the discourse dominating the movement.

There are also groups of white people hating black people, groups of black people hating white people, Asian groups men and women, hating only white men and their Asian girls with them, English speaking groups hating Spanish speaking people from Mexico, and the list continues. There is no end of such groups. Christian groups hating atheists, Muslims hating Christians, certain groups of Asians hating only other Asian immigrants etc. etc. So what about them?

Most decent and right thinking people see them as nuts, lunatic fringe groups. MGTOW could be a force for good for men - especially young men - if it was administered right.

You said, MGTOW has no leader or manifesto, there is no universal guideline. - You can say however the same about feminism. US-based feminism is full with hateful literature and quotes by leading US-feminists, going so far to recommend to kill all men, to cage them in a sperm farm, to beat them up, to excuse any crime from women against men etc. and this is all stuff you learn in so-called pro-feminist 'gender studies'. - However you will not find such hateful feminist literature outside of USA/Canada/Australia. Feminism of the Anglosphere is indeed the most toxic movement I know but nobody says any word about it.

Feminism is a lot more advanced, feminism is a lot further down the road than MGTOW, feminist leaders and icons stood up and made themselves known and wrote out their doctrine (most famous is Germaine Greer and the Spare Rib) this is where whoever stands up for MGTOW has to be careful, has to choose their words right and has to make this movement about the improvement of men rather than the hatred of women.

If MGTOW is dominated by 'Waaaaaaaaaaaaah women won't date me, they are evil, Filipinas are better' no-one is going to take MGTOW seriously.

In USA feminism is about extorting privileges and advantages without any justification except being a female - feminism is not productive and needs money from outside - it's not only about extorting some extra support from a few men, it is about a huge sum of money extorted also from companies, universities, misusing public funds...

MGTOW is reacting differently - we do not receive money from anywhere, of course compared to powerful feminism, MGTOW are small groups often with different agendas worldwide, and we have to do this out of our own wallet. - MGTOW in India have other problems than MGTOW in Germany for example. So what kind of leadership or manifesto do you expect?

The difference is time, MGTOW is in its infancy, MGTOW has the wheels to grow and to move - you can see now what is happening in different parts of the world. Men are going their own way, there have always been men who have rejected their percieved role but as the world is connected to the internet, their grievances can be aired and listened to.

I don't disagree with Marcos Zeilota much but I disagree with the 'all men need a wife, family and kids' I know men who are happy as larry that they have no such thing and I certainly know quite a few men who have these things and regret them.

I think it is going to take time for the right spokespeople to show themselves and a manifesto in the form of literature will evolve, but it has to be non-militant and it has to be based around the areas of self-improvement - or else people are just going to shut off if it is about blame.

[Quiet_observer]

It is possible to be married and mgtow. .... I view MGTOW in this manner. And for the record, America is a feminist ghetto.
I hope this makes sense.

Thank you, yes it is possible to be married and to be MGTOW.

The only groups of MGTOW who are claiming it is 'impossible' to be married and to be MGTOW are only some hateful hardliner-groups, all from USA.
Feminism is really bad there. Personally I consider USA as a 'sex-prison' for men. Nowhere else are men subject to such legal restrictions than in USA. It's indeed about being a 2nd class citizens.

Yep. If you had consensual sex with a girl 10 years ago and you became a millionaire today, she can go after your money via a BS rape charge. And the chances of her getting it are higher than most American men would like to believe. This system is set up to screw men over every way possible.

[Quiet_observer]

MGTOW is about to learn how to say 'NO' and not to give in to feminist demands.

Of course they really are giving into the real feminist demand of females being owned by the ZOG and white genocide.

un-huh... Go right ahead.... Back MGTOW into a corner and see what happens...... Go ahead... open that pandoras box....

IN the end, MGTOW will behead the mother of Harlots... ill wager some $$ on this one. Because PUA, MRA and everyone else are either completely helpless to or under the spell of the daughters of the great harlot!!

Hahah!

[Contrarian Expatriate]

I know Yohan said he is married and has been for 40 years, he also said he is a MGTOW.

How can a man be married and be a MGTOW at the same time? MGTOW are men who want nothing to do with women, so how does a married guy become a MGTOW?

Come on Yohan, try explaining this please!

MGTOW is about a personal path towards individual fulfillment without the restrictions of blue pill.

That being said, you are not the arbiter of what is and is not MGTOW. I can declare that YOU are not MGTOW because you don't have the wealth and power that I have amassed over the years.

Marriage is a control factor over men, but some men might getting out of a marriage or might be married in another country, or married and realizing the mistake.

The point is, MGTOW is something to you, and something else for others. Don't exclude people from MGTOW lest others exclude you for a variety of reasons!

[Quiet_observer]

I still think it's strange that a married man can call himself a MGTOW.

It's actually goes against the definition of what MGTOW means, which is guys who want nothing to do with women.

This is NOT the definition of what MGTOW means - this is what hateful feminists in USA are telling you and you believe that drivel.

Generally said, MGTOW are not against women, but against feminists.

Feminist – a person who believes that women should have legal and cultural advantages over men.

MGTOW = Men Going Their Own Way.
This is a broad term to describe men that choose to define their lives based on their own desires. Some men choose to marry, some live the PUA lifestyle, some ghost, etc.

The MGTOW philosophy does not attempt to constrain men into some pre-defined lifestyle.

Thank you, YOHAN!!!! This is exactly what ive been saying in my previous posts about the difference between V1 Mgtow and V2 Mgtow. You and I are V1 mgtow types. I think we were there before it went mainstream. V2 MGTOW hate women. Period. While V1 mgtow tend to have traveled the world and can tell you where the feminist zones are in the world. This is a big problem in the MGTOW sphere. Because at somepoint, V1 and V2 will have to fight. And we v1 folks are getting up there in age

[Nomad]

I am old enough to remember that MGTOW has no ties to any marriage conversations back in the old days. It was more about men being independent. But the community always brought up the question, "can you be MGTOW and be married?".

Then stepped in Barbarrossa, a man who has very eloquent speech and influence abilities, who also pulled the majority of the MGTOW community than any other MGTOW content producer at the time. He answered it with a resoundingly "no, you cannot be MGTOW and married".

Thus the trend began, people who were already married, but claimed MGTOW, suddenly getting ridiculed for "not REALLY going their own way".

Now the conversation is leaning can you be MGTOW if you have a girlfriend or even associate with women.

The answer is, YES, you can be MGTOW and married. Because MGTOW is not about forsaking women. Its about forsaking others to influence you through peer pressure or social expectations.

You no longer magically follow a script because others told you to, you follow your OWN script. That can include getting married. The opposition to this, is once you get married, you hand over your independent power, into the hands of the State and the Woman. But in reality, your life is already in the States control. You may not think so, afterall, they don't tell you what to eat or what to drive or what to buy, but you certainly don't have a choice in the direction your country goes.

MGTOW has been vague in its infancy and as time passes on, its coming more and more narrowly defined. But this script of "What a MGTOW Must be" will also be rejected, because MGTOW is not a lifestyle, its a mindset. That mindset is simply this, that you cannot put us in boxs, and you cannot mark us with labels, for we are free men, and free men we will be.

[Adama]

It is possible to be married and mgtow. .... I view MGTOW in this manner. And for the record, America is a feminist ghetto.
I hope this makes sense.

Thank you, yes it is possible to be married and to be MGTOW.

The only groups of MGTOW who are claiming it is 'impossible' to be married and to be MGTOW are only some hateful hardliner-groups, all from USA.
Feminism is really bad there. Personally I consider USA as a 'sex-prison' for men. Nowhere else are men subject to such legal restrictions than in USA. It's indeed about being a 2nd class citizens.

Yep. If you had consensual sex with a girl 10 years ago and you became a millionaire today, she can go after your money via a BS rape charge. And the chances of her getting it are higher than most American men would like to believe. This system is set up to screw men over every way possible.

If you slip in the shower, you could die. If you go to Russia, you can get assaulted. You could get stuck in a winter storm and freeze to death. You could get struck by lightning. You don't have to have a relationship with an AW to get stuck with a rape charge or to lose your money. One lawsuit can end your economic future in a litigious society.

There are many pitfalls and dangers in life, but it isn't as bad as say going to war.

MGTOW want to either run away or bury their heads in the sand. That is their solution: avoidance because of fear. That is no way to live life. These MGTOW are going to suffer having plain vanilla lives holed up in log cabins "ghosting" while the real men go out and get to know women in the Biblical sense.

MGTOW will mostly all die childless, just like feminists, and they'll think this is the safest way to live. Everyday monks make vows of chastity, but not all can adhere to it.

These men are such wussies they're too afraid to get out of bed because they'll have to cross a street eventually. Too dangerous.

[Quiet_observer]

It is possible to be married and mgtow. .... I view MGTOW in this manner. And for the record, America is a feminist ghetto.
I hope this makes sense.

Thank you, yes it is possible to be married and to be MGTOW.

The only groups of MGTOW who are claiming it is 'impossible' to be married and to be MGTOW are only some hateful hardliner-groups, all from USA.
Feminism is really bad there. Personally I consider USA as a 'sex-prison' for men. Nowhere else are men subject to such legal restrictions than in USA. It's indeed about being a 2nd class citizens.

Yep. If you had consensual sex with a girl 10 years ago and you became a millionaire today, she can go after your money via a BS rape charge. And the chances of her getting it are higher than most American men would like to believe. This system is set up to screw men over every way possible.

If you slip in the shower, you could die. If you go to Russia, you can get assaulted. You could get stuck in a winter storm and freeze to death. You could get struck by lightning. You don't have to have a relationship with an AW to get stuck with a rape charge or to lose your money. One lawsuit can end your economic future in a litigious society.

There are many pitfalls and dangers in life, but it isn't as bad as say going to war.

MGTOW want to either run away or bury their heads in the sand. That is their solution: avoidance because of fear. That is no way to live life. These MGTOW are going to suffer having plain vanilla lives holed up in log cabins "ghosting" while the real men go out and get to know women in the Biblical sense.

MGTOW will mostly all die childless, just like feminists, and they'll think this is the safest way to live. Everyday monks make vows of chastity, but not all can adhere to it.

These men are such wussies they're too afraid to get out of bed because they'll have to cross a street eventually. Too dangerous.

This post gets my vote for most Blue-Pill response EVER. Reading this was like my last relationship.... She kept trying to push my buttons to get a worse response out of me. But I kept my cool. I waited and allowed her to build up a list of offenses. then, in the end, I recited every offense she did and told her to leave. She choose a violent and hostile approach to getting a response out of me and failed. Thank god my other female friend was there, because once she realized I was keeping score she got upset and in a last ditch effort got physical. My female friend ( Visiting from Romania ) bloody hit her with a Mike Tyson styled right hook. And down she went. Out cold.

[Yohan]

If you slip in the shower, you could die. If you go to Russia, you can get assaulted. You could get stuck in a winter storm and freeze to death. You could get struck by lightning.

... too afraid to get out of bed because they'll have to cross a street eventually. Too dangerous.

It's about probability.

If you get married and have children, the probability you will find yourself divorced and financially ruined is HIGH.

The probability to be stuck by lightning or die in an avalance is LOW.

It's a difference if you are unlucky in an accident, just a single isolated case like a lightning or an avalance - or if it is about divorce, which is almost the normal way of life, which is affecting the majority of married man.

The way you compare is like to compare the sand of a beach with the dust on the moon, totally out of proportion.

[Adama]

It is possible to be married and mgtow. .... I view MGTOW in this manner. And for the record, America is a feminist ghetto.
I hope this makes sense.

Thank you, yes it is possible to be married and to be MGTOW.

The only groups of MGTOW who are claiming it is 'impossible' to be married and to be MGTOW are only some hateful hardliner-groups, all from USA.
Feminism is really bad there. Personally I consider USA as a 'sex-prison' for men. Nowhere else are men subject to such legal restrictions than in USA. It's indeed about being a 2nd class citizens.

Yep. If you had consensual sex with a girl 10 years ago and you became a millionaire today, she can go after your money via a BS rape charge. And the chances of her getting it are higher than most American men would like to believe. This system is set up to screw men over every way possible.

If you slip in the shower, you could die. If you go to Russia, you can get assaulted. You could get stuck in a winter storm and freeze to death. You could get struck by lightning. You don't have to have a relationship with an AW to get stuck with a rape charge or to lose your money. One lawsuit can end your economic future in a litigious society.

There are many pitfalls and dangers in life, but it isn't as bad as say going to war.

MGTOW want to either run away or bury their heads in the sand. That is their solution: avoidance because of fear. That is no way to live life. These MGTOW are going to suffer having plain vanilla lives holed up in log cabins "ghosting" while the real men go out and get to know women in the Biblical sense.

MGTOW will mostly all die childless, just like feminists, and they'll think this is the safest way to live. Everyday monks make vows of chastity, but not all can adhere to it.

These men are such wussies they're too afraid to get out of bed because they'll have to cross a street eventually. Too dangerous.

This post gets my vote for most Blue-Pill response EVER. Reading this was like my last relationship.... She kept trying to push my buttons to get a worse response out of me. But I kept my cool. I waited and allowed her to build up a list of offenses. then, in the end, I recited every offense she did and told her to leave. She choose a violent and hostile approach to getting a response out of me and failed. Thank god my other female friend was there, because once she realized I was keeping score she got upset and in a last ditch effort got physical. My female friend ( Visiting from Romania ) bloody hit her with a Mike Tyson styled right hook. And down she went. Out cold.

That's your fault. I tell you one thing. I have been with some real ball busters, but you know what? As soon as I realized it, it was over. Unlike you, I didn't need to add anything to a list. The moment they crossed the line I called them on it, and because they were female bullies, they dumped me. See, it's your fault for staying with your abusive woman. Wise up. Instead of being a man, you were being passive-aggressive by "keeping score." You don't need to keep any score. You only need to demand respect. No respect? Then when you demand her respect, she will dump you. You wouldn't know that, because you never called them out on it. You merely accepted it, and kept score.

Any woman who tries to press buttons with me is done long before I even get a thought to keep a score. That's just silly. You might have to be a man to get a woman. If you're gonna be a weenie, you're going to attract those domineering women whose goal it is to crush you. Doesn't matter which country she grew up in. They are everywhere.

[Adama]

If you slip in the shower, you could die. If you go to Russia, you can get assaulted. You could get stuck in a winter storm and freeze to death. You could get struck by lightning.

... too afraid to get out of bed because they'll have to cross a street eventually. Too dangerous.

It's about probability.

If you get married and have children, the probability you will find yourself divorced and financially ruined is HIGH.

The probability to be stuck by lightning or die in an avalance is LOW.

It's a difference if you are unlucky in an accident, just a single isolated case like a lightning or an avalance - or if it is about divorce, which is almost the normal way of life, which is affecting the majority of married man.

The way you compare is like to compare the sand of a beach with the dust on the moon, totally out of proportion.

I've come within a hair's breath of electric shock by lightning. Rare or no. It happens. Might as well stay in the bed. But if suckers would rather cower in their beds than go out and live their lives, then that is their choice to become MGTOW.

[Quiet_observer]

That's your fault. I tell you one thing. I have been with some real ball busters, but you know what? As soon as I realized it, it was over. Unlike you, I didn't need to add anything to a list. The moment they crossed the line I called them on it, and because they were female bullies, they dumped me. See, it's your fault for staying with your abusive woman. Wise up. Instead of being a man, you were being passive-aggressive by "keeping score." You don't need to keep any score. You only need to demand respect. No respect? Then when you demand her respect, she will dump you. You wouldn't know that, because you never called them out on it. You merely accepted it, and kept score.

Any woman who tries to press buttons with me is done long before I even get a thought to keep a score. That's just silly. You might have to be a man to get a woman. If you're gonna be a weenie, you're going to attract those domineering women whose goal it is to crush you. Doesn't matter which country she grew up in. They are everywhere.

PULEEASE!!!

No. You behave exactly like the treacherous/petulant types of women I talked about. If Keeping score and not stooping to someones level is "passive-aggressive" - then You, my friend are a mighty ignorant fool among fools. And chances are, most MGTOW can out-think you without even trying.

"The moment they crossed the line I called them on it, and because they were female bullies, they dumped me."
Well, your a fool for letting them dump you after all that. It shows what kind of women you deal with. Poor guy... At least I dumped them right after their petulat meltdowns or they just walk away knowing its over. hahah.. My silence is just that deadly...

"You don't need to keep any score. You only need to demand respect."
Again, women say this kind of thing all the time... A real man doesn't have to retaliate, he lets her throw her tantrum and have her meltdown and when shes done, she should KNOW to pack her things and head straight for the door. American women will go out of their way and become physical to get a response out of you. Most american men are stupid because they retaliate - and thats when she wins and has the law on her side. Your either a fool or a bitter woman, adama. Most men here understand exactly what im talking about.

"Any woman who tries to press buttons with me is done long before I even get a thought to keep a score. "
Sounds like a woman talking to me here.... You're missing the "I dont need a man" line.. But Im sure thats next. haha..

[Adama]

That's your fault. I tell you one thing. I have been with some real ball busters, but you know what? As soon as I realized it, it was over. Unlike you, I didn't need to add anything to a list. The moment they crossed the line I called them on it, and because they were female bullies, they dumped me. See, it's your fault for staying with your abusive woman. Wise up. Instead of being a man, you were being passive-aggressive by "keeping score." You don't need to keep any score. You only need to demand respect. No respect? Then when you demand her respect, she will dump you. You wouldn't know that, because you never called them out on it. You merely accepted it, and kept score.

Any woman who tries to press buttons with me is done long before I even get a thought to keep a score. That's just silly. You might have to be a man to get a woman. If you're gonna be a weenie, you're going to attract those domineering women whose goal it is to crush you. Doesn't matter which country she grew up in. They are everywhere.

PULEEASE!!!

No. You behave exactly like the treacherous/petulant types of women I talked about. If Keeping score and not stooping to someones level is "passive-aggressive" - then You, my friend are a mighty ignorant fool among fools. And chances are, most MGTOW can out-think you without even trying.

"The moment they crossed the line I called them on it, and because they were female bullies, they dumped me."
Well, your a fool for letting them dump you after all that. It shows what kind of women you deal with. Poor guy... At least I dumped them right after their petulat meltdowns or they just walk away knowing its over. hahah.. My silence is just that deadly...

"You don't need to keep any score. You only need to demand respect."
Again, women say this kind of thing all the time... A real man doesn't have to retaliate, he lets her throw her tantrum and have her meltdown and when shes done, she should KNOW to pack her things and head straight for the door. American women will go out of their way and become physical to get a response out of you. Most american men are stupid because they retaliate - and thats when she wins and has the law on her side. Your either a fool or a bitter woman, adama. Most men here understand exactly what im talking about.

"Any woman who tries to press buttons with me is done long before I even get a thought to keep a score. "
Sounds like a woman talking to me here.... You're missing the "I dont need a man" line.. But Im sure thats next. haha..

Your MGTOW philosophy has clouded your judgment so far that you can't distinguish man from woman. Anyone who disagrees with you is a blue pill woman. You can think what you like.

It is good when a woman like that dumps you. See, that's why you got what you deserve. You were with a woman who was a pure dog. She even became violent and was physical with you. You chose that woman. If you had been wise, you would have gotten out at the first sign of trouble. I consider it a privilege to let a dog dump me. In that way I save myself the trouble of having to call a female friend to defend me. But I would never be so silly as to get into a deep relationship with a female dog. You know, as in a woman who would dare to raise her hand to a man. That's a female dog. Not only did you choose her, but you stayed with her long enough for her to accumulate a whole list of offenses. You stayed and endured after the first, the second and the third. Why? Because YOU are the blue pill sucker who couldn't put his foot down the first time she pulled crap, which would have made her either fall in line or dump you. You fool. And having such a woman dump me is a bad thing? That's why you got what you had coming to you. All the signs were there but like a sucker you stayed to add up a list instead of putting your footdown or exiting.

A man must demand respect. I write that, then you think that is proof that I am female? Bro, you're a complete idiot and you shouldnt be dating anyone.

I don't need a man? No, I said a man should not tolerate crap from women. Boy, you are about the dumbest person there is.

[Quiet_observer]

That's your fault. I tell you one thing. I have been with some real ball busters, but you know what? As soon as I realized it, it was over. Unlike you, I didn't need to add anything to a list. The moment they crossed the line I called them on it, and because they were female bullies, they dumped me. See, it's your fault for staying with your abusive woman. Wise up. Instead of being a man, you were being passive-aggressive by "keeping score." You don't need to keep any score. You only need to demand respect. No respect? Then when you demand her respect, she will dump you. You wouldn't know that, because you never called them out on it. You merely accepted it, and kept score.

Any woman who tries to press buttons with me is done long before I even get a thought to keep a score. That's just silly. You might have to be a man to get a woman. If you're gonna be a weenie, you're going to attract those domineering women whose goal it is to crush you. Doesn't matter which country she grew up in. They are everywhere.

PULEEASE!!!

No. You behave exactly like the treacherous/petulant types of women I talked about. If Keeping score and not stooping to someones level is "passive-aggressive" - then You, my friend are a mighty ignorant fool among fools. And chances are, most MGTOW can out-think you without even trying.

"The moment they crossed the line I called them on it, and because they were female bullies, they dumped me."
Well, your a fool for letting them dump you after all that. It shows what kind of women you deal with. Poor guy... At least I dumped them right after their petulat meltdowns or they just walk away knowing its over. hahah.. My silence is just that deadly...

"You don't need to keep any score. You only need to demand respect."
Again, women say this kind of thing all the time... A real man doesn't have to retaliate, he lets her throw her tantrum and have her meltdown and when shes done, she should KNOW to pack her things and head straight for the door. American women will go out of their way and become physical to get a response out of you. Most american men are stupid because they retaliate - and thats when she wins and has the law on her side. Your either a fool or a bitter woman, adama. Most men here understand exactly what im talking about.

"Any woman who tries to press buttons with me is done long before I even get a thought to keep a score. "
Sounds like a woman talking to me here.... You're missing the "I dont need a man" line.. But Im sure thats next. haha..

Your MGTOW philosophy has clouded your judgment so far that you can't distinguish man from woman. Anyone who disagrees with you is a blue pill woman. You can think what you like.

It is good when a woman like that dumps you. See, that's why you got what you deserve. You were with a woman who was a pure dog. She even became violent and was physical with you. You chose that woman. If you had been wise, you would have gotten out at the first sign of trouble. I consider it a privilege to let a dog dump me. In that way I save myself the trouble of having to call a female friend to defend me. But I would never be so silly as to get into a deep relationship with a female dog. You know, as in a woman who would dare to raise her hand to a man. That's a female dog. Not only did you choose her, but you stayed with her long enough for her to accumulate a whole list of offenses. You stayed and endured after the first, the second and the third. Why? Because YOU are the blue pill sucker who couldn't put his foot down the first time she pulled crap, which would have made her either fall in line or dump you. You fool. And having such a woman dump me is a bad thing? That's why you got what you had coming to you. All the signs were there but like a sucker you stayed to add up a list instead of putting your footdown or exiting.

A man must demand respect. I write that, then you think that is proof that I am female? Bro, you're a complete idiot and you shouldnt be dating anyone.

I don't need a man? No, I said a man should not tolerate crap from women. Boy, you are about the dumbest person there is.

For the record - you got dumped.. I did the dumping. Your the biggest joke on this forum. For starters, You need to ACTUALLY READ my posts before you respond as your reading comprehension is far "below average", mate. or... perhaps your reading comprehension level is "American Woman". And this is something I've observed with you since I joined. Without a doubt ( And i am convinced.. ) you are a woman posing as a man. Poseur. Go take your blue pills and keep reading your bible.... This is a place for men - not women who hate men so much, they pretend to be men in order to insult them. haha:P If you're not a woman, my bad, but...... Till then, I think you're a bitter fat broad - because thats all i see when I read your posts. Go get yourself off on Ezekiel 23:20..... That should calm you down a bit

[Nomad]

That's your fault. I tell you one thing. I have been with some real ball busters, but you know what? As soon as I realized it, it was over. Unlike you, I didn't need to add anything to a list. The moment they crossed the line I called them on it, and because they were female bullies, they dumped me. See, it's your fault for staying with your abusive woman. Wise up. Instead of being a man, you were being passive-aggressive by "keeping score." You don't need to keep any score. You only need to demand respect. No respect? Then when you demand her respect, she will dump you. You wouldn't know that, because you never called them out on it. You merely accepted it, and kept score.

Any woman who tries to press buttons with me is done long before I even get a thought to keep a score. That's just silly. You might have to be a man to get a woman. If you're gonna be a weenie, you're going to attract those domineering women whose goal it is to crush you. Doesn't matter which country she grew up in. They are everywhere.

PULEEASE!!!

No. You behave exactly like the treacherous/petulant types of women I talked about. If Keeping score and not stooping to someones level is "passive-aggressive" - then You, my friend are a mighty ignorant fool among fools. And chances are, most MGTOW can out-think you without even trying.

"The moment they crossed the line I called them on it, and because they were female bullies, they dumped me."
Well, your a fool for letting them dump you after all that. It shows what kind of women you deal with. Poor guy... At least I dumped them right after their petulat meltdowns or they just walk away knowing its over. hahah.. My silence is just that deadly...

"You don't need to keep any score. You only need to demand respect."
Again, women say this kind of thing all the time... A real man doesn't have to retaliate, he lets her throw her tantrum and have her meltdown and when shes done, she should KNOW to pack her things and head straight for the door. American women will go out of their way and become physical to get a response out of you. Most american men are stupid because they retaliate - and thats when she wins and has the law on her side. Your either a fool or a bitter woman, adama. Most men here understand exactly what im talking about.

"Any woman who tries to press buttons with me is done long before I even get a thought to keep a score. "
Sounds like a woman talking to me here.... You're missing the "I dont need a man" line.. But Im sure thats next. haha..

Your MGTOW philosophy has clouded your judgment so far that you can't distinguish man from woman. Anyone who disagrees with you is a blue pill woman. You can think what you like.

It is good when a woman like that dumps you. See, that's why you got what you deserve. You were with a woman who was a pure dog. She even became violent and was physical with you. You chose that woman. If you had been wise, you would have gotten out at the first sign of trouble. I consider it a privilege to let a dog dump me. In that way I save myself the trouble of having to call a female friend to defend me. But I would never be so silly as to get into a deep relationship with a female dog. You know, as in a woman who would dare to raise her hand to a man. That's a female dog. Not only did you choose her, but you stayed with her long enough for her to accumulate a whole list of offenses. You stayed and endured after the first, the second and the third. Why? Because YOU are the blue pill sucker who couldn't put his foot down the first time she pulled crap, which would have made her either fall in line or dump you. You fool. And having such a woman dump me is a bad thing? That's why you got what you had coming to you. All the signs were there but like a sucker you stayed to add up a list instead of putting your footdown or exiting.

A man must demand respect. I write that, then you think that is proof that I am female? Bro, you're a complete idiot and you shouldnt be dating anyone.

I don't need a man? No, I said a man should not tolerate crap from women. Boy, you are about the dumbest person there is.

For the record - you got dumped.. I did the dumping. Your the biggest joke on this forum. For starters, You need to ACTUALLY READ my posts before you respond as your reading comprehension is far "below average", mate. or... perhaps your reading comprehension level is "American Woman". And this is something I've observed with you since I joined. Without a doubt ( And i am convinced.. ) you are a woman posing as a man. Poseur. Go take your blue pills and keep reading your bible.... This is a place for men - not women who hate men so much, they pretend to be men in order to insult them. haha:P If you're not a woman, my bad, but...... Till then, I think you're a bitter fat broad - because thats all i see when I read your posts. Go get yourself off on Ezekiel 23:20..... That should calm you down a bit

I understand Adama's point of view (not defending him), but I don't understand why he is on this forum. Nothing here really serves his interests, unless you include fighting with all the other members here. Is he looking to travel abroad? Doesn't seem like it. Is he MGTOW? Nope. Is he looking to get sinners saved with the Gospel? He is more likely to repel people away than to Jesus Christ. Is he trying to understand someone's point of view? He is practically a tinder-bundle starting flame wars everywhere (which he will then go on to blame others for).

I can only conclude he is very bitter about his life. For someone who claims that he practically knows how to deal with women, finds himself single. As a Christian myself, I have observed him, and have concluded that while he may have some truth on his side, he has no mercy or love. He is purely Law driven. Every word out of his mouth speaks judgement and condemnation.

Perhaps he can shed some light on why he spends time on a forum with people in his view, are a bunch of losers and idiots? Or maybe he just spent so much time here, its just become a go-to place habit.