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American Women Proposing To Men
American Women Proposing To Men
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American Women Proposing To Men
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Interesting.
They are desperate.
"In that day seven women will take hold of one man and say, "We will eat our own food and provide our own clothes; only let us be called by your name. Take away our disgrace!"
--Isaiah The Prophet
They are desperate.
"In that day seven women will take hold of one man and say, "We will eat our own food and provide our own clothes; only let us be called by your name. Take away our disgrace!"
--Isaiah The Prophet
"Well actually, she's not REALLY my daughter. But she does like to call me Daddy... at certain moments..."
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- Contrarian Expatriate
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My ex-girlfriend asked me to marry her 2 days ago here in this Balkan country. I politely told her no, but I agreed that I might have a child with her if she can get her mind right.
She is now 34 and childless and the desperation is just now hitting her that BS time is over if she wants kids.
She is a brilliant woman, but very stupid when it comes to common sense (as is the case with most women).
She is now 34 and childless and the desperation is just now hitting her that BS time is over if she wants kids.
She is a brilliant woman, but very stupid when it comes to common sense (as is the case with most women).
If I were single and a woman proposed to me, I'd feel almost insulted, or something like that. Maybe disrespected. She'd taken away part of my role and responsibility. It's like if your friend is going to propose to his girlfriend, and you tell her right before he pops the question. It's that kind of disrespect. But it's disrespect, IMO, in my culture, not every culture in the world. There are a lot of marriage and engagement rituals in other countries.
I hated it in that Friends episode when Monica proposed to Chandler. It's one of those moments where you feel uncomfortable and want to hide under your chair for the sake of the dude on TV. It's like if a girl brought you roses, well, worse than that. If he wanted to marry her, what would he do, say no, then propose later, say shut up, I'm proposing to you? Is the guy going to wear an engagement ring and show it to his male friends?
One thing I did see when I was living in Indonesia dating the woman who is now my wife, I'd absorbed an idea form my own culture that I should feel uncomfortable talking about marriage. Talking about marriage isn't the same as proposing. I think the girl should let the man lead on this topic. But it's not wrong for her to try to see what the man will be like as a husband. You can do this by saying, "When I marry, I'd like my husband to...." That's not proposing. It may be uncomfortable for some men, but if the relationship is serious enough, it may be a way for a woman to weed out men who aren't marriage oriented enough. If he's just using her for emotional entertainment and isn't marriage-minded, she shouldn't be wasting her time. If she's not sleeping with him, that's probably the only time-wasting motivation he'd have. If she wants to get married and she's sleeping with him, that's just a stupid 'strategy' for a woman wanting to get married.
My wife is also from a culture that doesn't have a big ritual around popping the question. I did the whole down on one knee thing. I had a good excuse to dress up in a suit and her dress up nice and go out to eat together. I got down on one knee. She'd never seen that before. She was so overwhelmed, she couldn't answer my question with a 'yes' for a while. She enjoyed it. It was just the two of us. I didn't do a dance mob or jump out of an airplane. This was before either of us had seen YouTube.
In her country, proposing is taking my parents to meet her parents and ask to marry her. My parents weren't there, so I had an older friend to stand in and go to her uncle's house. Then I road a slow boat that felt like a refugee ship up to her parent's city. She'd talked to them on the phone and they were already onboard with the idea, so they talked wedding planning mostly in a language I didn't know.
I hated it in that Friends episode when Monica proposed to Chandler. It's one of those moments where you feel uncomfortable and want to hide under your chair for the sake of the dude on TV. It's like if a girl brought you roses, well, worse than that. If he wanted to marry her, what would he do, say no, then propose later, say shut up, I'm proposing to you? Is the guy going to wear an engagement ring and show it to his male friends?
One thing I did see when I was living in Indonesia dating the woman who is now my wife, I'd absorbed an idea form my own culture that I should feel uncomfortable talking about marriage. Talking about marriage isn't the same as proposing. I think the girl should let the man lead on this topic. But it's not wrong for her to try to see what the man will be like as a husband. You can do this by saying, "When I marry, I'd like my husband to...." That's not proposing. It may be uncomfortable for some men, but if the relationship is serious enough, it may be a way for a woman to weed out men who aren't marriage oriented enough. If he's just using her for emotional entertainment and isn't marriage-minded, she shouldn't be wasting her time. If she's not sleeping with him, that's probably the only time-wasting motivation he'd have. If she wants to get married and she's sleeping with him, that's just a stupid 'strategy' for a woman wanting to get married.
My wife is also from a culture that doesn't have a big ritual around popping the question. I did the whole down on one knee thing. I had a good excuse to dress up in a suit and her dress up nice and go out to eat together. I got down on one knee. She'd never seen that before. She was so overwhelmed, she couldn't answer my question with a 'yes' for a while. She enjoyed it. It was just the two of us. I didn't do a dance mob or jump out of an airplane. This was before either of us had seen YouTube.
In her country, proposing is taking my parents to meet her parents and ask to marry her. My parents weren't there, so I had an older friend to stand in and go to her uncle's house. Then I road a slow boat that felt like a refugee ship up to her parent's city. She'd talked to them on the phone and they were already onboard with the idea, so they talked wedding planning mostly in a language I didn't know.
Good Lord! That biological clock sure is ticking huh?? I would also refuse to marry a woman who proposed to me but then again I would make it clear to her that if I was interested in her, that I would not marry (Until age 50+), but I am committed to the relationship and would like to have children....Contrarian Expatriate wrote:My ex-girlfriend asked me to marry her 2 days ago here in this Balkan country. I politely told her no, but I agreed that I might have a child with her if she can get her mind right.
She is now 34 and childless and the desperation is just now hitting her that BS time is over if she wants kids.
She is a brilliant woman, but very stupid when it comes to common sense (as is the case with most women).
Her being brilliant and lacking common sense, it kind of cancels each other out doesn't it?
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It does. Some time ago, it was written on this forum that women seemingly always have a cognitive or intelletual "blind spot." No matter how intelligent they might be, there is an area (or several) of their life in which they are clueless and foolish. I agree with that assessment.The wrote:Good Lord! That biological clock sure is ticking huh?? I would also refuse to marry a woman who proposed to me but then again I would make it clear to her that if I was interested in her, that I would not marry (Until age 50+), but I am committed to the relationship and would like to have children....Contrarian Expatriate wrote:My ex-girlfriend asked me to marry her 2 days ago here in this Balkan country. I politely told her no, but I agreed that I might have a child with her if she can get her mind right.
She is now 34 and childless and the desperation is just now hitting her that BS time is over if she wants kids.
She is a brilliant woman, but very stupid when it comes to common sense (as is the case with most women).
Her being brilliant and lacking common sense, it kind of cancels each other out doesn't it?
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+1 to whoever wrote that.Contrarian Expatriate wrote:It does. Some time ago, it was written on this forum that women seemingly always have a cognitive or intelletual "blind spot." No matter how intelligent they might be, there is an area (or several) of their life in which they are clueless and foolish. I agree with that assessment.The wrote:
Her being brilliant and lacking common sense, it kind of cancels each other out doesn't it?
I have a couple of sisters who I am sure would agree with that.
They know they need us, at many levels.
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