America; Where saints finish last, and demons finish first!

[AW Warning]

Anyone who hears the phrase "Nice guys finish last" hears the cold truth about America's callous, evil, and cruel dating scene. And they are not kidding when they say; "Nice guys finish last." American women completely abhor guys who are friendly, down to Earth, social with others, and especially who have Jesus in their hearts. American women are married literally to the devil! They are like psychos that drink toxic raw sewage like it were Wonka's chocolate river and turn their noses up at clean, fresh water.

Place a friendly, down-to-Earth, loving, and sociable guy in front of a typical American woman, and she turns her nose up at him and tells him to go away. Dangle a violent killer covered in MS-13 tattoos, brandishing an AK-47, driving a stolen Ferrari, plus a recent mugshot showing his face and crime reports of "Robbery of a bank committed with firearm" and even "Firearm attack on a police officer," in front of that exact same American woman, and she RUNS and SCURRIES right into the man's arms, kisses him, licks him, strokes him, and worships him like a god!

Clearly, America is one evil, twisted country where nice guys finish last and violent terrorists and killers finish first. In other words, in America, demons finish first and saints finish last.

[yick]

Oh f**k off!

No wonder very few American women want to have anything to do with you.

'Nice Guys...' I'll tell you why 'Nice Guys' finish last - because its an act to get into a womans panties - and women know this.

Most men - are nice to people when they want something (friendship, sex, money, jobs, favours whatever...) and assholes to people who can offer them nothing.

I am nice to people I like and am an asshole to people I don't like (or at least ambivalent) I am sure you are the same.

The percentage of truly 'nice guys' on the planet is in single figures.

Now your problem is, you haven't left America yet. Instead of obsessing about American women, how about getting to a place where you can make your leave.

And if you have left America, why are you even bothering about warning people about American women?

I live abroad, I know lots of westerners dating mostly Asian women - the amount of time we spend talking about 'western women' (good or bad).

None, nothing, nada - who the hell cares about them? Once you are living away from home, they cease to be important.

Do yourself a big favour and get the hell out of there, they don't care about you and what you think of them, they have the dating scene over there sewn up, it is up to you to find your happiness in another place, life is too short bwana, get it sorted.

[Blue Murder]

Yick, stop trolling please. If you can't appreciate this conversation you need to find a new forum!

[Zambales]

The Western world is a cut-throat environment and it's not particularly a good place for nice guys to be unless you're within a social circle who appreciate you for who you are. Otherwise you're generally classed as weak, stupid and someone to be taken advantage of - so it's best to add an extra string to your bow and start developing a ruthless and less tolerant side to your character. Far better to be respected than to be liked amongst these types of people.

As for finding a woman. Self-explanatory. Go overseas.

[Adama]

The problem is some men perceive reality different from what actually is. And most of these people cannot be helped. Probably 97% of men who join MGTOW will never be able to climb their way out of it, because they'll never wake up; a terrible fate.

[Kradmelder]

What makes america any different? The world has always been a ruthless place with the strongest and fittest surviving. What is strongest and fittest varies in time and place.

Good White Men are not terrorists or murders, not bank robbers nor thieves, yet they have families and breed. That makes them fittest as their DNA is passed on. They don't finish last. The weak sisters bemoaning life don't have kids hence they finish last, as it should be. Their DNA dies out with them and the 1000s of years of their ancestors dies with them.

A better debate is what makes these weak sisters and horrid women? Is it being raised by single mothers with no male role model, or fathers who just don't want to step up to their job? Or jews whose liberalism promoted this destruction. I would figure all 3. None would exist in isolation.

[fschmidt]

What makes america any different?

Having traveled widely, I can safely say that the American people are the scum of the earth. Why? I think it is because American men are the most sexually desperate men on earth. This is because prostitution is illegal and this is enforced and prostitution is socially unacceptable. Women are pampered by the government and supported through extreme divorce laws and welfare and other things. So the men beg for sex and the women have no need for the men. This turns the women into complete bitches and the men into spineless scum without the slightest bit of loyalty. The American man would always sell out his best friend for sex. The (cultural) American people are absolute scum without any redeeming value who all deserve to be exterminated.

[Kradmelder]

What makes america any different?

Having traveled widely, I can safely say that the American people are the scum of the earth. Why? I think it is because American men are the most sexually desperate men on earth. This is because prostitution is illegal and this is enforced and prostitution is socially unacceptable. Women are pampered by the government and supported through extreme divorce laws and welfare and other things. So the men beg for sex and the women have no need for the men. This turns the women into complete bitches and the men into spineless scum without the slightest bit of loyalty. The American man would always sell out his best friend for sex. The (cultural) American people are absolute scum without any redeeming value who all deserve to be exterminated.

The american divorce laws are very extreme. men are literally wiped out and have to support the princess in a manner to which she feels entitled to in perpetuity. Here the man just must support his kids. If the wife didn't work he has to support her an amount of time dependent on the years she was out of work. But eventually princess must get a job and get her hands dirty to earn her own keep. The kid formula works as each kid counts as half a person. So a mother and 2 kids dad must pay half the rent, half the food etc. When the time limit is up mama is expected to pay some of the kids' costs, up to a half depending on the income difference. Maintenance of kids and other costs are also split, so that mama can't rack up big bills for dad. For example, there is a fixed maintenance for food, clothing shelter etc, which is based on your income. The rest you pay only on invoice if you agreed to the expense. Like your share of the school fees, sport, trips, extra activities, school uniforms etc. This also limits her ability to pilfer the children's money. It has to be proven expense, so only the straight maintenance she can tap into by feeding them bread or pap instead of meat. This came about because women were using the money for themselves. For me it works out that my share of the invoiced amount is almost the same or more than maintenance. And she must pay half so she thinks twice before running up big tabs.

On the other hand, dead beat dads get no leniency and can be arrested at work.

The changes to the system did lower the divorce rate over the last 10 years as princess now has to work she she wants to fool around. Divorce is still lucrative for princess as she gets at least half of what was built up since marriage, or half of everything if you were foolish enough to marry in community of property. Therefore it only makes sense to marry young when you have nothing, and divorce before major purchases and before you start earning a lot of money. or you will lose it.

In america it seems like dad is forced into penury while his ex wife screws someone else with his money in a house he is still paying for. You can only feel sorry for divorced american men, but they chose to marry under such a system, conned by 'this one is different', and trying to do what is right. For an american man to choose marriage in his own land is like selling himself into slavery. I feel for them. They want children and were prepared to take this risk for the sake of family.

[Wolfeye]

I think that AW tend toward that because they: (1) Crave something different. (2) Figure the "nice guy" is a p***y that'll have no edge to him if anything goes off. (3) Don't want to get too attached. (4) Want to feel better than the guy they're with. (5) Want to "fix" him/Feel a sense of prowess and/or accomplishment from "fixing" him. (6) Want to piss off daddy (something of a self-governance thing, but since there's a lot of reverse psychology type of shit going on here, it's not really them guiding themselves toward what they want as much as it is being contrary on their own effort).

A woman here seems to think that she's somehow a sell-out or downtrodden if she has a good relationship with a man- this circumvents that situation. Another simple thing is that he COULD come off powerful/capable & they're attracted to that, but I don't think they totally figure that (since they could be aware that he's a soldier & not a shot-caller or simply think that whole situation is an act- A LOT of guys try to come off like they're a "street soldier," but they're not). I don't know how they size these things up, since they'll sometimes go for a rich & feeble old man that can't do much of anything. They go for weaklings that treat them like shit, too. Never understood quite a bit of the shit chicks do- particularly American ones.

[Ghost]

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[droid]

American men are the most sexually desperate men on earth. This is because prostitution is illegal and this is enforced and prostitution is socially unacceptable. Women are pampered by the government and supported through extreme divorce laws and welfare and other things. So the men beg for sex and the women have no need for the men. This turns the women into complete bitches and the men into spineless scum without the slightest bit of loyalty. The American man would always sell out his best friend for sex.

+1

who all deserve to be exterminated.

Endlosung?
Is this forum great or what

[Quiet_observer]

Nice guys used to finish last. Now they don't even get to start.

yep ( nods ). Just wait... My money is still on the Nice guys. They're like rabbits in a cage being poked with a stick. You know, they're going to clean house the second they successfully chew through the lock on the cage door. Give it time. It will be epic when it finally happens.

Fear the Rabbits..... xD

[Adama]

What makes america any different?

Having traveled widely, I can safely say that the American people are the scum of the earth. Why? I think it is because American men are the most sexually desperate men on earth. This is because prostitution is illegal and this is enforced and prostitution is socially unacceptable. Women are pampered by the government and supported through extreme divorce laws and welfare and other things. So the men beg for sex and the women have no need for the men. This turns the women into complete bitches and the men into spineless scum without the slightest bit of loyalty. The American man would always sell out his best friend for sex. The (cultural) American people are absolute scum without any redeeming value who all deserve to be exterminated.

I used to believe this but no longer. American men are scum because they were trained by society to be scum. Just like the women were trained to be independent career sluts until it's too late to have children. It is a psychological war. The laws do matter, but not nearly as much as the psychological battle does. If you could win the psychological war, then the laws and prostitution become minor nuisance.

As I've said before, our actors are our cultural leaders. You put something in movies for young people over generations, and those generations which grow up watching will start to follow what they see in the movies. It really is monkey see, monkey do. It's truly that simple. If you don't believe me, look at movies like American Pie. Movies like that train teenage boys and young men to become amoral, sex obsessed perverts. There are lots of movies like this.

It is a psychological war much more than it is a legal one. It isn't just a simple matter of getting laid. It is how men have been brainwashed to go about getting laid. The movies erase the moral barrier.

This is also why people always hate that small group of people who control the media. The people who are actually alive in the spirit can see what these people are doing to humanity. The vulgar crowd, as Machiavelli puts it, simply goes by what they can see on the surface, and they like that surface. So when you bring it up, because they are dogs who are going to destroy themselves anyway, they can't see the truth.

[Kradmelder]

As an outsider who has been to america several times, to all parts except alaska it would be difficult to generalise except to say, wtf, so many fat people. They are also superficially familiar and friendly, but it is on the surface. They all want to address you by Christian name, and call you buddy even when they don't know you from a donkey in the road. False friendliness.

But they are also so different it is hard to see it as one country.

The north east from Washington upwards, they are loud, pushy, obnoxious, and most likely to fit fschimdt's description.But that is a gross generalisation. And their accent is so irritating and the most difficult to understand. Like they talk through their noses and whine. The cities are multiculti cesspools with every nation on earth babbling in their own tongue and making no attempt to assimilate. Tower of babel. I absolutely hated NYC and just wanted out as quick as possible. Washington DC I liked because of all the great museums. But outside the capital area is is a negro slum probably worse than soweto.

The south east, I find they are the most easy to get along along with, laid back and friendly. The blacks there are far more decent than in the northeast. But I got the suspicion the white culture is insular and not so easy to be accepted into as an outsider.

Texas I have only been to Houston. It seemed like trying to imitate California, which is the most plastic false place on earth bar las vegas. Only seeing a city cannot give you an overall picture.

California is hideous. I stayed in san fransisco with a saffer couple. They had a little SA community and said they didnt fit in there and preferred when they were in Georgia and Virginia. The open faggotry was also a shock. Worse than cape town.

The mid west, honest open, they even lent me the family car, came to my hotel to offer to take me to their church, and took me to their son's high school football. It was a real experience and the most open of all american cultures. But it seemed to conformist and suffocating and american stereotype.

The west i liked as well. Open space like I am used to. But live in a bubble. I waited at the airport for my hosts but there was no one. So as i went to try hire a car 2 men in cowboy hats came and introduced themselves. They said they didn't think I was the one they were waiting for because I'm white. They said how come you are from africa and white? I thought it was a joke but they were serious. They then asked me did I buy those clothes in america? I am not wearing african clothes. wtf...They then asked me how we get around. I said we have better roads than you do, and we have more whites than your entire state. It was a shock to me to leave keys in the ignition, and bags and beer in the back of the bakkie (truck?). No crime. I didn't get their hatred of mexicans. The mexicans work hard and send money home. When i asked they said live 10 in a house. I don't get it. Their yards looked clean and they work hard and don't steal. When I asked the yanks about the lack of crime and if they had blacks there they said blacks? we had one once but he started stealing so the mexicans chased him out of town. Great. send us mexicans.

Americans, except NE liberals, are very welcoming to south africans. Canadians are not and just want to bring up Apartheid and tell you what SA is like. As if they have all the answers in their liberal multiculti cesspool. For this reason I don't see them as scum. Actually simple warm hearted people but naive.I just would never want to live there, and never the NE or california. They also find it bad manners to speak in afrikaans amongst yourselves because they don't understand.

When you go to america on business, in the west and midwest they will entertain you and bring you to their family homes, and go out of their way to be hospitable. Just like south africans do. In the NE and canada they are cold, distant and leave you in your hotel room. Just like europeans. In Canada they despise you for not sharing their liberal views. Yet in Canada they love african blacks and defer to them. I guess if I was black they would like me, and americans would not invite me to their homes. who knows.

[zboy1]

Kradmelder, I'm not White, but Asian. I have to say your description of various parts of America is spot on.

The fakest State in the country is California, with the rudest and most arrogant American's located in the Northeast, with the friendliest people in the Midwest and South, although if you're Black, Mexican or Arab, I would stay clear of those places, because people there don't like minorities too much.

I hate the multicultural cesspools of LA and N Y C. Both of them are filled with supossedly tolerant White liberals, but that's not the case at all; plus, those places are filled with angry Blacks, illegals and Asians who are very insular and rarely talk with people outside their communities. Its no wonder there's so much racial tension in those cities.