American men have it worst than Japanese men(maybe than other Asian men) (Incels, difference between public and private)

[Archibault]

Hey guys,
I have been thinking about this topic a lot. It seems no one has realized this before.

It seems if you are an Incel or a guy who can't get laid, you are better off in Japan or other Asian countries than America.

People think Asia and America are similar since they have the "work to live" culture, unlike Europe. And that American men have it "easy" compared to Japanese men or other Asian men. However, the opposite is the case.

In America(I think America is more comparable with Middle East countries)

If you are an Incel in America, the average people will make fun of you and say you are a "loser."Meanwhile, you won't get any sympathy from liberals nor progressives(unlike in Europe and maybe in Quebec); feminists will say, "They don't owe you sex!" "It is your fault if you can't get laid!" Unlike other countries, sex work is both illegal and stigmatize. You can't go to an older brother or relative and say, "Take me to a brothel like you would in other cultures." The people will say, "You can't get laid for free; what's wrong with you!" You also face the risk of getting in legal trouble.

An American man sits at home watching pornography and superheroes movies and says, "Well, at least the Japanese have it worst!" I see a lot of MGTOWs, Incels, and others saying, "We'll at least we are not Japan! No one has sex there."

Is that true, though? WRONG.

Japan
I noticed that Puritans think that the Japanese are this stoic samurai who frown on sex and live like monks. The Hikikomori reinforces this stereotype. An average American man will see a Japanese, "We'll this dude plays video games all day; there's no way he can get laid."

Public
Japanese culture seems to be very "work orientated" on the surface, leaving little room for sex. It seems to be all about "saving face" working hard, even more than American culture.

However(Shikashi)

Private
It seems that in Private Japanese culture is different. Having talked with some Japanese, it looks permissive when it comes to private matters this includes sex. There's this "underworld" of p2p. So a young hikikomori could get out of his house and quickly go to a BJ cafe. It seems Japanese culture isn't shaming their men or policing their sexual lives, unlike in America.

I have been learning more and more about Asian cultures, and it seems that "sex work" is extensive, from brothels to massage parlors. I saw a lot of "monger" Japanese recount their stories on YouTube.

What do you guys think?

[mahayana]

In America you deserve to get made fun of if you're a loser! America isn't some faggy country that coddles the losers like in Europe. In America you either succeed and get all of the women and money or you end up in like some sexless, broke incel loser freak in a basement or homeless in a tent (like you deserve). We don't accept losers in America which is why it's the most powerful and BEST country in the world. The Japanese men are such failures that their birth rates are almost nonexistent! Their men are afraid to whip their dicks out and put into some hot nip p***y and would rather jack off to hentai instead which is pathetic.

[Yohan]

However(Shikashi)
Private
It seems that in Private Japanese culture is different. Having talked with some Japanese, it looks permissive when it comes to private matters this includes sex. There's this "underworld" of p2p. So a young hikikomori could get out of his house and quickly go to a BJ cafe. It seems Japanese culture isn't shaming their men or policing their sexual lives, unlike in America.

I have been learning more and more about Asian cultures, and it seems that "sex work" is extensive, from brothels to massage parlors. I saw a lot of "monger" Japanese recount their stories on YouTube.

What do you guys think?

Yes, I think, sex services are much easier and also cheaper in Japan compared to USA.

Sex for men from females against some money is not a problem here in Japan, nobody cares, nobody knows who you are, just take a short ride by subway in the major cities with millions of people around. There are also some services for women paying for sex from men.

It's not really an underworld business, you will find many of these 'soapland sites' on the Japanese internet, with time/price list/pictures....

The most important rule is that all people working within the sex-service industry and their customers are 18+, otherwise nothing to worry about it.

Another important rule is that there is only direct contact and not an arranged/forced contact with somebody between, further requirement is that sex related business is done away from the street and that nothing can be seen or heard by people passing by.

Now much of these contacts/reservations are done by internet webpages, cheapest as far as I can see, starting with USD 70,- for 40 minutes, but experienced and beautiful looking Japanese lady will charge for 70 minutes (inkluding room within the club, shower) up to USD 350,- / Prices in general are fixed rates, no bargaining, but also no tips....

Such sex-services you can find now almost everywhere in Japan, located near railway stations or main roads a bit outside of the cities, many of them operate as a club with membership, sometimes insisting the new customer should be introduced by a regular customer, some offer discounts for frequent customers - as a foreigner it is not always easy to enter such clubs because of bad experiences (do-gooders who feel so sorry for these poor girls working there, religous bigots showing up with the Bible explaining them what the are doing is a sin, foreign feminists who want to rescue helpless little girls etc. etc.)

If you are the owner of a membership club in Japan by law it is easy to refuse entry to unknown men and in case of foreigners it is not possible for them to file discrimination lawsuits against the club owner.

Thre are also hotel rooms available you can rent for a few hours, you contact a club by phone and meet one of their ladies in a so-called 'love-hotel' - these rooms are very nice decorated, offer anonymity and parking space behind a curtain. In general lovee-hotels are not in contact with these soapland-clubs. You have to arrange the girl to come and visit you by yourself.

[kangarunner]

In America you deserve to get made fun of if you're a loser! America isn't some faggy country that coddles the losers like in Europe. In America you either succeed and get all of the women and money or you end up in like some sexless, broke incel loser freak in a basement or homeless in a tent (like you deserve). We don't accept losers in America which is why it's the most powerful and BEST country in the world. The Japanese men are such failures that their birth rates are almost nonexistent! Their men are afraid to whip their dicks out and put into some hot nip p***y and would rather jack off to hentai instead which is pathetic.

I think you nailed it right there about the US. They want to set up the system where everyone is forced to compete. You have no choice. This giant stadium of competition breeds other nasty ways of thinking towards your fellow man.

[WanderingProtagonist]

In America you deserve to get made fun of if you're a loser! America isn't some faggy country that coddles the losers like in Europe. In America you either succeed and get all of the women and money or you end up in like some sexless, broke incel loser freak in a basement or homeless in a tent (like you deserve). We don't accept losers in America which is why it's the most powerful and BEST country in the world. The Japanese men are such failures that their birth rates are almost nonexistent! Their men are afraid to whip their dicks out and put into some hot nip p***y and would rather jack off to hentai instead which is pathetic.

I think you nailed it right there about the US. They want to set up the system where everyone is forced to compete. You have no choice. This giant stadium of competition breeds other nasty ways of thinking towards your fellow man.

But the majority of you keep forgetting how those
who control the West controls all these other countries too.

[galii]

In America you deserve to get made fun of if you're a loser! America isn't some faggy country that coddles the losers like in Europe. In America you either succeed and get all of the women and money or you end up in like some sexless, broke incel loser freak in a basement or homeless in a tent (like you deserve). We don't accept losers in America which is why it's the most powerful and BEST country in the world. The Japanese men are such failures that their birth rates are almost nonexistent! Their men are afraid to whip their dicks out and put into some hot nip p***y and would rather jack off to hentai instead which is pathetic.

I think you nailed it right there about the US. They want to set up the system where everyone is forced to compete. You have no choice. This giant stadium of competition breeds other nasty ways of thinking towards your fellow man.

But the majority of you keep forgetting how those
who control the West controls all these other countries too.

You can only do it to some degree. Because of the ethnic make up of the US the system is not social. When you look around most Western countries have strong social systems. The US is not the norm.

[Yohan]

You can only do it to some degree. Because of the ethnic make up of the US the system is not social. When you look around most Western countries have strong social systems. The US is not the norm.

This is true, US is not the norm, it does not represent the way of life in most Western orientated countries - especially those with higher income.

Western orientated countries and not only in Europe - offer in general a fairly good social system to their citizens - for example insurance for medical care, labour rights regarding payment and vacation, retiremen allowance, various programs to reduce jobless people living in the street, not so expensive higher education, a more considerate legal system etc.

This is true also with various developed countries outside of Europe, like here in Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, Australia, New Zealand etc.

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My impression is that not all in USA is really so bad, especially not if you are an immigrant from impoverished countries.

However it cannot denied, that USA has totally different laws depends in which federal state you are living - what is perfectly allowed in one state is a crime in another just 5 miles over the border - it's a legal chaos. Also medical care in the States is highly overpriced. Public transportation is often not existent...I was astonished to hear from ordinary US citizens (without criminal record and living outside of the US) while talking to me to refer to US police officers as 'gangsters with a badge and a gun' 'criminals in uniform' and similar abusive terms...

[jamesbond]

This is interesting, here is the inside of a 'love hotel' in Tokyo.

[Yohan]

This is interesting, here is the inside of a 'love hotel' in Tokyo.

https://sara-grande.jp
It belongs to the SARA Hotel-chain, which are offering similar rooms in several places in Tokyo.
They opened this love-hotel and asked some models to show guests around.

Please be aware that the rent is only for the room, you have to bring the girl with you or to call her from a club...

A love-hotel is NOT a 'soapland' with girls already inside.
This is a soapland...