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Some Filipinos think our GF's are ugly.

Why do they say that and how do their minds work?

Most Filipino men are not jealous of the "porener" because they think we take their least attractive girls. Some even say that they see us as scavengers picking up what they do not want and marrying their cast offs.

The Pinoy concept of beautiful is pale skin and a thin pointed nose. Kind of like a Latina with porcelain white Chinese skin. A Spanish-Chinese mestiza. That is the paragon for them.

But many 'poreners' prefer a Filipina that looks, well, like a Filipina. That is why they are in the country in the first place. Otherwise, they'd go to Mexico or China.

It seems that some N. Americans associate Filipinas with Hawaiian girls, while Aussies and Kiwis see the look alike of Tongan and Samoan girls. And Europeans associate Filipinas with Tahiti. Sultry, passionate, playful ladies who are wild in their love-making.

And many Pinays who never got compliments from local guys on account of their flat SE Asian nose and olive colored skin ( which Filipinos do not think attractive at all) suddenly get courted by Western guys who have pale skin and pointed noses. They are so flattered and say "yes" to a date.

To "poreners", she is a Hawaiian, Tongan, Taihitian-like beauty with a hoolah, and a flower in her hair, but a Filipino thinks she is a provincial girl who has the face of a domestic helper.

Different perceptions and associations.

But the result is pretty good.

Imagine if they were actually jealous.
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Well, it's the very concept of "arbitrage". We pick something who has greater perceived value to us than the counterparty. A deal made in heavens.

When the Bounty, as in the British ship, reached Tahiti, its crew had to spend a few months "trapped" in tropical Paradise. The island was full of beautiful young women who would incessantly give themselves to the pasty white skinny crew, no doubt most of them deformed by the profession and disease-ridden, but whom the locals would see as "godlike handsome". No wonder they committed mutiny... :)

I think we both know what the average Western divorcee in their 40s (or 50s, or 60s) comes here for. To spend their retirement years in a place that costs 30% of their home country, with a weather constantly >10 degrees better than back home and, most importantly, having more sex with 20-yo cuties than what they had when they, themselves, were 20.
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June 21st, 2022, 7:01 am
Well, it's the very concept of "arbitrage". We pick something who has greater perceived value to us than the counterparty. A deal made in heavens.

When the Bounty, as in the British ship, reached Tahiti, its crew had to spend a few months "trapped" in tropical Paradise. The island was full of beautiful young women who would incessantly give themselves to the pasty white skinny crew, no doubt most of them deformed by the profession and disease-ridden, but whom the locals would see as "godlike handsome". No wonder they committed mutiny... :)

I think we both know what the average Western divorcee in their 40s (or 50s, or 60s) comes here for. To spend their retirement years in a place that costs 20% of their home country, with a weather constantly >10 degrees better than back home and, most importantly, having more sex with 20-yo cuties than what they had when they, themselves were 20.
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if philipine arbratge westermans than why young male model marco only get the poverty province 4'10 girl or more impoverted mountain mistres from prehorical culture so he say my wife go top uni so smart bla bla so then why live desolated provincal life only go karoke drink to drunk stupors or riding motorbike or make trikecyle driver business for it seem philipine the aborder beer gogles captal for desprating forners
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June 21st, 2022, 7:01 am
Well, it's the very concept of "arbitrage". We pick something who has greater perceived value to us than the counterparty. A deal made in heavens.

When the Bounty, as in the British ship, reached Tahiti, its crew had to spend a few months "trapped" in tropical Paradise. The island was full of beautiful young women who would incessantly give themselves to the pasty white skinny crew, no doubt most of them deformed by the profession and disease-ridden, but whom the locals would see as "godlike handsome". No wonder they committed mutiny... :)

I think we both know what the average Western divorcee in their 40s (or 50s, or 60s) comes here for. To spend their retirement years in a place that costs 30% of their home country, with a weather constantly >10 degrees better than back home and, most importantly, having more sex with 20-yo cuties than what they had when they, themselves, were 20.
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I just bought the DVD of that movie: I saw it decades ago but I liked it, even though I never thought about it in this context. I'm going all-in on living aboard a boat full time, so this is going to be a fun one to re-watch. :)

I like Mel Gibson.
I lost all respect for Hopkins based on his Hannibal Lectre films, but he performed well in that movie as Captain Blighe. I recall the scene on board the ship where Captain Blighe was gifted a plus-sized islander woman that I would've been all over without hesitation (both to take what I wanted, and to make sure @E Irizarry R&B Singer didn't swoop in there and nail her first), but Blighe had other ideas, having a more "tradpill" philosophy, and was waving his arms to try to get that thick islander babe to cover herself back up.

Cool atmospheric Vangelis musical score that movie had, too. Maybe I'll upload some Bitchute clips from it in a while after we re-watch it. :)

But something I thought was interesting after consciously studying the methods of other successful ladies' men and womanizers in my 20's in my learning phase: I found that the range of women who'd respond favorably to my imitation James Bond approach would totally span the attractiveness scale and have minimal or no correlation to any obvious demographic or 'status' groups.
When I was out for a woman and going after everything from girl-next-door types to BBWs and 40+, I'd get a mix of reactions from the maybes, to the no's, to the obvious yesses, but the best and brightest green-light signals sometimes came from the hottest women who I would've considered out of my league if I'd fallen into the error of being cerebral, rather than actually just going after the women....

But that was just a deep thought I decided to share: Nothing against you "arbitrageurs" who are mad for the Philippines and think your prospects are more favorable there. I'm glad you're happy there. :)
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July 27th, 2022, 2:14 am
I lost all respect for Hopkins based on his Hannibal Lectre films, but he performed well in that movie as Captain Blighe. I recall the scene on board the ship where Captain Blighe was gifted a plus-sized islander woman that I would've been all over without hesitation (both to take what I wanted, and to make sure @E Irizarry R&B Singer didn't swoop in there and nail her first), but Blighe had other ideas, having a more "tradpill" philosophy, and was waving his arms to try to get that thick islander babe to cover herself back up.
When I watched the movie I absolutely hated Captain Bligh. For me Captain Bligh represented the prudish, puritanical, Anglo-Protestant tradcon faggot while the mutineers were courageous freedom-loving men who had had enough of Bligh's tyrannical ways and restrictive puritanism and decided to free themselves from the Anglo plantation for a new life of revelry and exultation of the spirit in a Pacific paradise. I was rooting for the mutineers and their just rebellion and booing that villainous Uncle Tom to the British crown!

The puritanical tradcon faggot Bligh had a problem with his men cavorting with those beautiful sensual Polynesian goddesses. But I'm sure that any free-spirited Spanish or Portuguese captain with his fiery Latin passion and his Greco-Roman masculinity would have had no problem with such natural unions with such hot, brown girls with banging curves and coconuts for bras!

How does @Pixel--Dude interpret the movie? You've seen it, haven't you?
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July 27th, 2022, 9:07 pm
When I watched the movie I absolutely hated Captain Bligh. For me Captain Bligh represented the prudish, puritanical, Anglo-Protestant tradcon faggot while the mutineers were courageous freedom-loving men who had had enough of Bligh's tyrannical ways and restrictive puritanism and decided to free themselves from the Anglo plantation for a new life of revelry and exultation of the spirit in a Pacific paradise. I was rooting for the mutineers and their just rebellion and booing that villainous Uncle Tom to the British crown!

The puritanical tradcon faggot Bligh had a problem with his men cavorting with those beautiful sensual Polynesian goddesses. But I'm sure that any free-spirited Spanish or Portuguese captain with his fiery Latin passion and his Greco-Roman masculinity would have had no problem with such natural unions with such hot, brown girls with banging curves and coconuts for bras!

How does @Pixel--Dude interpret the movie? You've seen it, haven't you?
The irony is that, after that pioneering expedition, trade routes crossing Tahiti intensified. By the time the French colonised the island, its fame as a place full of young, easy and available women had already peaked, to the point that its biggest economy was prostitution. The French government was horrified and cracked down on prostitution, literally filling the island with churches and strict Catholic schools. Within a few decades, any trace of bare-chested young ladies and their tribal lust was but a distant memory.

The arbitrage time window had closed forever.

Among those who believed they could still land in Sex Heaven, to very bitter consequences, was painter Paul Gauguin. His legendary paintings of young Tahitian girls exposing all of their skin were all, bar none, the fruits of his imagination. This is what he probably saw every day he walked out of his modest residence on the island.

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A good example that
  1. arbitrage opportunities are, by definition, a market anomaly - the market here being the dating/romance/sex market
  2. every market tends to be as efficient as it is allowed to be and eliminate arbitrage opportunities as quickly as possible - after being discovered by the White Man, the Tahiti sex heaven endured for just a few decades
Since I arrived here in 2015, I have been intrigued as to why this particular arbitrage trade that is the Philippines seems to persist. My two cents of an explanation.
  • the Philippines are a very large country still mired in poverty - its political class, from barangay to presidential palace, is so hopelessly corrupt and self-serving that there is no chance whatsoever that the vast majority of the poor will be lifted, or lift themselves, out of abject poverty
  • poverty and ignorance, coupled with the typical passive demeanour of the Filipino, is a non-stop breeding farm for girls who have, literally, more tits than working neurons - girls who will easily fall for the handsome "Amerikano", believe their lies, end up in whatever sexual arrangement their foreign handler wants them to be, and suffer in silence when they are eventually dumped for the next shenanigan in line.
  • those girls who are not so naive and gullible will somehow learn that the vast majority of men who come here for love have something in common: they are hardened by one or three divorces, they have 10 or 100 more money than whatever man they can be with in their locales, and are sex-starved. They know when, where and how to push all the right buttons to get that man found online to be madly in love after 6 months of distance relationship, or after a week of island-hopping together.
  • I have to admit, the stereotype is true: take the anxiety of where to get the next meal away from a young Filipina, and you'll have a small sex machine packed with primal lust coming from Heaven knows what ancient tribal DNA strand...
This combination of material need, relative gullibility and, in the better cases, a savoir-faire with men (especially those who show some decent feelings back) that swings between the innate and the opportunistic, is just the perfect storm. It's almost impossible to find anywhere else in the world, more so as years go by and globalisation marches on.

This, though doesn't mean that the socio-economic-cultural conditions that brew the storm will last forever. So...as they say, enjoy while it lasts :)
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WilliamSmith wrote:
July 27th, 2022, 2:14 am
I like Mel Gibson.
I lost all respect for Hopkins based on his Hannibal Lectre films, but he performed well in that movie as Captain Blighe. I recall the scene on board the ship where Captain Blighe was gifted a plus-sized islander woman that I would've been all over without hesitation (both to take what I wanted, and to make sure @E Irizarry R&B Singer didn't swoop in there and nail her first), but Blighe had other ideas, having a more "tradpill" philosophy, and was waving his arms to try to get that thick islander babe to cover herself back up.
I saw that scene, I think when I went into a small fitness center and it was on when I was working out or checking out the facilities..... no that was the Lawrence Olivia version. I saw the Gibson/Hopkins version elsewhere. For me, they had matched the captain with a very unattractive partner, and I would have thought that was supposed to be the idea conveyed to the audience. But it is useful thing for the species and pairing up that men like women all across the board for weight and different types of looks. I married a thin woman, and she was even thinner when we started dating. Some men on the forum have complained about 'land whales' and all that kind of stuff. But diversity in what men like reduces competition.

Hopkin's Blighe was uptight and unlikeable from that perspective, but he did have some sexual ethics. He was strict about English naval law. So in a way, he was 'good' at what he did, following the rules. The movie kind of presents the rules and the establishment as oppressive and makes the mutineers seem very relatable.

The real life versions of them would go off to an island with Polynesian women and their descendants would eventually max out what the island could handle. They developed their own language mixed between English sailor talk and Polynesian. Sex with young girls became common in their culture and became a legal issue later after Pitcairn came under the legal rule of New Zealand.
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Lucas88 wrote:
July 27th, 2022, 9:07 pm
WilliamSmith wrote:
July 27th, 2022, 2:14 am
I lost all respect for Hopkins based on his Hannibal Lectre films, but he performed well in that movie as Captain Blighe. I recall the scene on board the ship where Captain Blighe was gifted a plus-sized islander woman that I would've been all over without hesitation (both to take what I wanted, and to make sure @E Irizarry R&B Singer didn't swoop in there and nail her first), but Blighe had other ideas, having a more "tradpill" philosophy, and was waving his arms to try to get that thick islander babe to cover herself back up.
When I watched the movie I absolutely hated Captain Bligh. For me Captain Bligh represented the prudish, puritanical, Anglo-Protestant tradcon faggot while the mutineers were courageous freedom-loving men who had had enough of Bligh's tyrannical ways and restrictive puritanism and decided to free themselves from the Anglo plantation for a new life of revelry and exultation of the spirit in a Pacific paradise. I was rooting for the mutineers and their just rebellion and booing that villainous Uncle Tom to the British crown!

The puritanical tradcon faggot Bligh had a problem with his men cavorting with those beautiful sensual Polynesian goddesses. But I'm sure that any free-spirited Spanish or Portuguese captain with his fiery Latin passion and his Greco-Roman masculinity would have had no problem with such natural unions with such hot, brown girls with banging curves and coconuts for bras!

How does @Pixel--Dude interpret the movie? You've seen it, haven't you?
Maybe I'll give it another watch one of these nights, but while I remain of the opinion that Hopkins is a POS for what he did with those Hannibal Lectre films promoting serial killers, I thought his portrayal of Bligh in "Bounty" actually added likability and sympathy and character nuances: I recall the Hopkins Bligh in the film was actually already happily married to a woman waiting for him back in England (so there was that element to why he wasn't interested in sampling the Polynesian chick they brought to his cabin, not just sexual puritanism or an aversion to chubbies, LOL).
And he and the Gibson leading man character had a meaningful friendship before the voyage began, which added some emotional depth to the story when there was later still some good cause for them to do the mutiny... (This was in stark contrast to the famous Charles Laughton black-and-white Munity on the Bounty portrayal, where they were pulling out the stops to have Bligh come off as detestable as possible... yet then in that version it didn't make much sense why so many men stayed loyal to him and how he showed good character while keeping the men's morale together while they were drifting at sea after the mutineers put them out in the lifeboats...)

That was a long time ago I last saw that movie though, I might take another look sometime. :)
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I posted a few things on the side topic of the Bounty and related matters, but didn't address the original thread topic:

@ladislav
I also think Pinays are very pretty and cute, even though I have other top preferences of my own. :)
Unfortunately your pic isn't loading though, so I wasn't able to see the example of the kind of Pinay you mentioned.
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Some Filipinos think our GF's are ugly.

Why do they say that and how do their minds work?
Here's an example of a Pinay that I saw who I thought was so lovely I decided to buy a used copy of this much older Philippines travel guide from the 1990s, LOL. Maybe I'll scan and upload a higher-resolution version of it sometime, but here's the thumbnail from the net:
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Actually, I saw other pics of very cute Pinays posted by @publicduende in another thread awhile ago, which he said were the more common type, but based on other pics of Pinays, this particular beautiful girl looks exceptional to me: She looks like she has the naturally straight silky hair like most Asian women have (I'm guessing without doing her hair to straighten it, but you Philippines experts can correct me if I'm wrong about that part), but with those emotional and feminine looking dark colored eyes, full lips, and beautiful dark skin (more so than just the olive skin you described), she looks so much like she has black female ancestry I wonder about the indigenous black races that I believe were on many of the islands in more ancient time periods...
Some of those "aboriginal" indigenous black races look, erm, well rather "different" like some of those tribes from Papua New Guinea where I'd just as soon admire from afar (sorry if that sounded too rude), but some of them like this girl looks more like an admixture of some kind of SE Asian Chinese strain and that of the healthiest and prettiest black female populations found in some parts of Africa........

Seemed like maybe these little hotties posted below were more like the majority of Pinays, compared with that even darker girl I like above?
@Outcast9428 better tag you on this one so you don't miss out on the pics of Asian chicks. :lol:
To me they have such slender hips that I'd worry about her actual safety during childbirth if I was paired with one of these, but they are definitely very pretty and cute. :)
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July 30th, 2022, 1:40 pm
Actually, I saw other pics of very cute Pinays posted by @publicduende in another thread awhile ago, which he said were the more common type, but based on other pics of Pinays, this particular beautiful girl looks exceptional to me: She looks like she has the naturally straight silky hair like most Asian women have (I'm guessing without doing her hair to straighten it, but you Philippines experts can correct me if I'm wrong about that part), but with those emotional and feminine looking dark colored eyes, full lips, and beautiful dark skin (more so than just the olive skin you described), she looks so much like she has black female ancestry I wonder about the indigenous black races that I believe were on many of the islands in more ancient time periods...
Some of those "aboriginal" indigenous black races look, erm, well rather "different" like some of those tribes from Papua New Guinea where I'd just as soon admire from afar (sorry if that sounded too rude), but some of them like this girl looks more like an admixture of some kind of SE Asian Chinese strain and that of the healthiest and prettiest black female populations found in some parts of Africa........

Seemed like maybe these little hotties posted below were more like the majority of Pinays, compared with that even darker girl I like above?
@Outcast9428 better tag you on this one so you don't miss out on the pics of Asian chicks. :lol:
To me they have such slender hips that I'd worry about her actual safety during childbirth if I was paired with one of these, but they are definitely very pretty and cute. :)
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@WilliamSmith Sorry I don't remember which particular picture of a Pinay you are referring to.

The photo you just posted here portrays the typical hot yet "socially-undesirable" girls, those Filipino men, in their infinite hypocrisy, would call "hipon" (*prawns"), because, like with prawns, if you remove the head, the rest is good to eat! :)

These are the girls most Filipinos would say are "the maid type", those many of the luckier foreigners usually get when they come over here to take their pick. As someone said before, Filipinos don't see them as prime material and their jealousy or envy is not triggered when they see us whiteys hooking up with them. Most of them just laugh, thinking that we have no taste or are desperate enough to go for those they consider bottom of the barrel.

These people don't consider that men may well have different tastes and what looks ordinary to them might look exotic and special to a foreigner.

All in all, I personally would consider those girls quite sexy. The problem I see, at least for myself, is that Filipinas who look like that usually come from the lowest strata of society: they are usually uneducated, simple-minded and gullible enough to change their mind about man A when man B comes along, or they see a friend with man C who looks younger and better than man A and B.
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publicduende wrote:
July 31st, 2022, 9:00 am
...The problem I see, at least for myself, is that Filipinas who look like that usually come from the lowest strata of society: they are usually uneducated, simple-minded and gullible enough to change their mind about man A when man B comes along, or they see a friend with man C who looks younger and better than man A and B.
Definitely low class. Weekly allowance paid at end of week, use a condom or be prepared for occasional STDs. Think of them like friendly stray cats: yours to pet and enjoy as long as you feed them regularly, but don't be surprised when they visit other food bowls or suddenly disappear.
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July 31st, 2022, 10:24 am
Definitely low class. Weekly allowance paid at end of week, use a condom or be prepared for occasional STDs. Think of them like friendly stray cats: yours to pet and enjoy as long as you feed them regularly, but don't be surprised when they visit other food bowls or suddenly disappear.
That's a good metaphor. Those girls are also extremely easy to bed. You can be sh*gging them literally less than an hour after your first meet, in a coffee shop or something. To use another apt metaphor, "catch & release" they are.
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@WilliamSmith Lol I appreciate the mention.
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MarcosZeitola wrote:
August 20th, 2022, 9:31 pm
ladislav wrote:
June 20th, 2022, 11:02 pm
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Some Filipinos think our GF's are ugly.

Why do they say that and how do their minds work?

Most Filipino men are not jealous of the "porener" because they think we take their least attractive girls. Some even say that they see us as scavengers picking up what they do not want and marrying their cast offs.

The Pinoy concept of beautiful is pale skin and a thin pointed nose. Kind of like a Latina with porcelain white Chinese skin. A Spanish-Chinese mestiza. That is the paragon for them.

But many 'poreners' prefer a Filipina that looks, well, like a Filipina. That is why they are in the country in the first place. Otherwise, they'd go to Mexico or China.
It's funny how my perspective changed entirely over the years. I've never considered the "flat nose" to be attractive, and in fact my first wife had a 'tall nose' by Filipino standard, more akin to an Indian lady than a Pinay. But her skin was also very dark, and she was short, and as years go by... I sort of gravitated more and more towards the type of ladies local men would fawn over. Paler. Somewhat taller. More delicate features, larger, wider eyes, taller and thinner, sharper noses.

If literally every foreigner you ever encounter has a darker lady by his side, more of the 'morena type' with more typical Filipino features? It sort of turns me off from it, in a weird way. The whole "housekeeper" stereotype comes into play. You see a local dude next, plain looking Filipino dude, perhaps a little taller and a little more well-off than usual but far from a Brad Pitt... and his girlfriend looks "Mestiza", like an artist, almost. And somehow it planted a little seed in my brain of "I want that, too!"

Strange how the human mind works. Over a year ago, I found myself single all of a sudden. Didn't expect and didn't feel like advertising the fact online, either. Disappeared from this forum for ages. And trying to find the "Filipino ideal" was quite hard, I have to say. Not impossible, as in the end I succeeded, but definitely difficult.

I dated several girls who fit the criteria of "hot by Filipino standards" and I noticed that Filipino guys and girls alike would sort of try to undermine or sabotage me. One even went as far as to chat a girl I courted and tell her all sorts of bad things about me, how I was "a chickboy" and only wanted to bang her, wasn't serious, etcetera... biggest bullshit ever, but it successfully ended things between me and her, which was sad.

It appears as if Filipinos don't mind it if you, as a foreigner "stay in your lane" and date girls that are too dark, too provincial, too short, broke or flat-nosed for them to desire. But once you start dating girls they themselves lust after... they get pissy, and petty, and downright mean-spirited. It was fascinating to see. And more than a little disheartening, actually. It's one of the reasons why I am kind of eager to leave soon.
So petty and lo quality loser locals try bring down jo

but truth is from your postings is you become chickboy even before when stil wit wife and look for tal nose mountain girl so maybe you giv locals hatermans so much amos for shot you down reputation for easy ruinment in gosipying phlipinos social society
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MarcosZeitola wrote:
August 20th, 2022, 9:31 pm
ladislav wrote:
June 20th, 2022, 11:02 pm
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Some Filipinos think our GF's are ugly.

Why do they say that and how do their minds work?

Most Filipino men are not jealous of the "porener" because they think we take their least attractive girls. Some even say that they see us as scavengers picking up what they do not want and marrying their cast offs.

The Pinoy concept of beautiful is pale skin and a thin pointed nose. Kind of like a Latina with porcelain white Chinese skin. A Spanish-Chinese mestiza. That is the paragon for them.

But many 'poreners' prefer a Filipina that looks, well, like a Filipina. That is why they are in the country in the first place. Otherwise, they'd go to Mexico or China.
It's funny how my perspective changed entirely over the years. I've never considered the "flat nose" to be attractive, and in fact my first wife had a 'tall nose' by Filipino standard, more akin to an Indian lady than a Pinay. But her skin was also very dark, and she was short, and as years go by... I sort of gravitated more and more towards the type of ladies local men would fawn over. Paler. Somewhat taller. More delicate features, larger, wider eyes, taller and thinner, sharper noses.

If literally every foreigner you ever encounter has a darker lady by his side, more of the 'morena type' with more typical Filipino features? It sort of turns me off from it, in a weird way. The whole "housekeeper" stereotype comes into play. You see a local dude next, plain looking Filipino dude, perhaps a little taller and a little more well-off than usual but far from a Brad Pitt... and his girlfriend looks "Mestiza", like an artist, almost. And somehow it planted a little seed in my brain of "I want that, too!"

Strange how the human mind works. Over a year ago, I found myself single all of a sudden. Didn't expect and didn't feel like advertising the fact online, either. Disappeared from this forum for ages. And trying to find the "Filipino ideal" was quite hard, I have to say. Not impossible, as in the end I succeeded, but definitely difficult.

I dated several girls who fit the criteria of "hot by Filipino standards" and I noticed that Filipino guys and girls alike would sort of try to undermine or sabotage me. One even went as far as to chat a girl I courted and tell her all sorts of bad things about me, how I was "a chickboy" and only wanted to bang her, wasn't serious, etcetera... biggest bullshit ever, but it successfully ended things between me and her, which was sad.

It appears as if Filipinos don't mind it if you, as a foreigner "stay in your lane" and date girls that are too dark, too provincial, too short, broke or flat-nosed for them to desire. But once you start dating girls they themselves lust after... they get pissy, and petty, and downright mean-spirited. It was fascinating to see. And more than a little disheartening, actually. It's one of the reasons why I am kind of eager to leave soon.
Interesting info there @MarcosZeitola.
I've been wondering about that subject too for all South East and East Asian countries: Where do the local men hate us (white men) the least in general, and in particular for those doing the WMAF thing, LOL.
Half the white guys in the so-called "Western" world are bailing to get out, and a lot go to Asia, so I've been wondering. I might end up there at some point, but with a "bring your own women" (non-Asian women) approach to going there (so in theory they'd be less upset with me, LOL), but if things changed and I was over there alone, then I was curious since I'd be on another WMAF spree, but would rather be in a place the men don't give a damn, if there is any such place.

Koreans and Vietnamese struck me as somewhat more masculine and less sissified (so in theory less resentful or worried about foreigners), but I don't know about Filippinos.
It sounds to me like the Pinoy preference for women is pretty much the reverse of what I'd prefer: I'd rather get the pretty dark girls anyway, and also when I did have Asian women was always trying to fatten them up by getting them to eat more food (vs the unnatural skinniness that most Asian men seem to prefer from what I've seen), so the "arbitrage" concept @publicduende mentioned might work in my favor, if I ever end up back on the WMAF bandwagon in one or more of those countries... :)

Another "arbitrage" point likely working in my favor: If/when with Asian women, I also strongly prefer the more assertive extroverted Asian female personalities (the man-eating tiger women and dragon ladies) vs the submissive types that some of you describe as though they actually need some kind of paternalistic guidance, which is just not my personal cup of tea for a fireball romance. But my point there: A lot of times more traditional Asian men don't want those kinds of assertive or outspoken women I prefer, even if the tiger women are hot, LOL. (Though that doesn't necessarily help curb resentment, since the men might still get mad at the sight of me with a hot dragon woman, even if they wouldn't want to deal with her breathing fire and ripping them a new one in a hodler relationship...) :lol:
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