Is it possible to just buy a slave in the Philippines?

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Is it possible to just buy a slave in the Philippines?

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I was reading this article about a Philippine slave, and I thought that this could be a very easy way to get a sex partner; however, something tells me that this is no longer possible.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... ory/524490
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MatureDJ wrote:I was reading this article about a Philippine slave, and I thought that this could be a very easy way to get a sex partner; however, something tells me that this is no longer possible.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... ory/524490
It was hard to stop reading that. That was sad. Your question seems kind of heartless after reading the story. Making someone like that a sex slave is a lot darker than the situation she was in.

But if there were a good-looking 'Lola' living in a family like that, in that situation, and a white man in the US married her, she'd probably cook and clean, and maybe do some other things, diligently for him. And she'd be in the respectable position of being married to a white man in the US.

I have a friend who took an Indonesian maid over to California, and she ended up marrying a guy he knew who worked at the convenience store.
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MrMan wrote:
MatureDJ wrote:I was reading this article about a Philippine slave, and I thought that this could be a very easy way to get a sex partner; however, something tells me that this is no longer possible.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... ory/524490
It was hard to stop reading that. That was sad. Your question seems kind of heartless after reading the story. Making someone like that a sex slave is a lot darker than the situation she was in.

But if there were a good-looking 'Lola' living in a family like that, in that situation, and a white man in the US married her, she'd probably cook and clean, and maybe do some other things, diligently for him. And she'd be in the respectable position of being married to a white man in the US.

I have a friend who took an Indonesian maid over to California, and she ended up marrying a guy he knew who worked at the convenience store.
It shows how little most understand. Of the foreign men i run into in the Philippines, most are low grade cretins.
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MatureDJ wrote:I was reading this article about a Philippine slave, and I thought that this could be a very easy way to get a sex partner; however, something tells me that this is no longer possible.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... ory/524490
Only a cold and callous individual would consider an idea like this after reading such an unfortunate story. Shame on you.
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A sad and true story, but at that time a human life had not much value.

Slavery was everywhere, not such a long time ago, only a few generations ago it was perfectly legal - there were black slaves in the States, Arab pirates took white slaves from ships, black slaves from villages in Africa.

In Asia about the same situation - slavery was almost everywhere - Thai used legally Muslim slaves up to 1906 for any kind of work, maids were often children. Slaves were treated like items or animals, not as humans.

Despite slavery is now illegal, there are many people still living in slave-like conditions, often minors, in Asia this might be in India, Bangladesh - and in many poor African countries, maybe also in some impoverished places in Latin America.
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OutWest wrote:
MrMan wrote:
MatureDJ wrote:I was reading this article about a Philippine slave, and I thought that this could be a very easy way to get a sex partner; however, something tells me that this is no longer possible.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... ory/524490
It was hard to stop reading that. That was sad. Your question seems kind of heartless after reading the story. Making someone like that a sex slave is a lot darker than the situation she was in.

But if there were a good-looking 'Lola' living in a family like that, in that situation, and a white man in the US married her, she'd probably cook and clean, and maybe do some other things, diligently for him. And she'd be in the respectable position of being married to a white man in the US.

I have a friend who took an Indonesian maid over to California, and she ended up marrying a guy he knew who worked at the convenience store.
It shows how little most understand. Of the foreign men i run into in the Philippines, most are low grade cretins.
What does that have to do with what I wrote? The story was about a Filippina maid who lived in the US, who was not paid for much of her life and treated like a slave. If she'd run off and married an American, somehow, when she was young, that might have been a way out. But she didn't speak the language.

I remember now that some Filippinos call their grandma 'Lola'. Did the author call her that? Maybe he started after his kids were born and they knew her as 'grandma.'
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MrMan wrote:
OutWest wrote:
MrMan wrote:
MatureDJ wrote:I was reading this article about a Philippine slave, and I thought that this could be a very easy way to get a sex partner; however, something tells me that this is no longer possible.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... ory/524490
It was hard to stop reading that. That was sad. Your question seems kind of heartless after reading the story. Making someone like that a sex slave is a lot darker than the situation she was in.

But if there were a good-looking 'Lola' living in a family like that, in that situation, and a white man in the US married her, she'd probably cook and clean, and maybe do some other things, diligently for him. And she'd be in the respectable position of being married to a white man in the US.

I have a friend who took an Indonesian maid over to California, and she ended up marrying a guy he knew who worked at the convenience store.
It shows how little most understand. Of the foreign men i run into in the Philippines, most are low grade cretins.
What does that have to do with what I wrote? The story was about a Filippina maid who lived in the US, who was not paid for much of her life and treated like a slave. If she'd run off and married an American, somehow, when she was young, that might have been a way out. But she didn't speak the language.

I remember now that some Filippinos call their grandma 'Lola'. Did the author call her that? Maybe he started after his kids were born and they knew her as 'grandma.'
She started when she was 18 in 1943 taken care of her "owner" the daughter 12 year old of a soldier said to be fighting the Japanese in exchanged for not being forced into an arranged marriage to a man said to be twice her age. By the mid 1960s the family lands in the US and she would be a 40 something year old slave, the Lola to the owner's kids, one of whom was the author. The father quit the Philippines Foreign service making her work visa expired and she remained as TNT, an illegal alien until the author got her legalized through the 80s Simpson Mazzoli Act amnesty.

Basically unless a post WWII GI ran into her she missed her window to attack that savior.
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MrMan wrote:
OutWest wrote:
MrMan wrote:
MatureDJ wrote:I was reading this article about a Philippine slave, and I thought that this could be a very easy way to get a sex partner; however, something tells me that this is no longer possible.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... ory/524490
It was hard to stop reading that. That was sad. Your question seems kind of heartless after reading the story. Making someone like that a sex slave is a lot darker than the situation she was in.

But if there were a good-looking 'Lola' living in a family like that, in that situation, and a white man in the US married her, she'd probably cook and clean, and maybe do some other things, diligently for him. And she'd be in the respectable position of being married to a white man in the US.

I have a friend who took an Indonesian maid over to California, and she ended up marrying a guy he knew who worked at the convenience store.
It shows how little most understand. Of the foreign men i run into in the Philippines, most are low grade cretins.
What does that have to do with what I wrote? The story was about a Filippina maid who lived in the US, who was not paid for much of her life and treated like a slave. If she'd run off and married an American, somehow, when she was young, that might have been a way out. But she didn't speak the language.

I remember now that some Filippinos call their grandma 'Lola'. Did the author call her that? Maybe he started after his kids were born and they knew her as 'grandma.'

Oh come on. I would think you might be capable of spme level of abstraction here. You made the point that it wad pretty sad if the take-away from the sad story was the possibility of a modern day sex slave. Sad indeed. I'm simply observing that this level of thinking is common in foreign men in the Philippines.
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OutWest wrote: Oh come on. I would think you might be capable of spme level of abstraction here. You made the point that it wad pretty sad if the take-away from the sad story was the possibility of a modern day sex slave. Sad indeed. I'm simply observing that this level of thinking is common in foreign men in the Philippines.
I've never been to the Philippines, so I couldn't follow your train of thought. We weren't talking about old sexpats in the Philippines. I was talking about a maid from Indonesia who found a husband in the US. My friend let her go, of course. He had her working for him, not working as a slave. i think he was able to have a maid or nanny, legally, if he was in the US temporarily and going back to Indonesia, later. The embassy approved one when they saw how many kids he had.

A 40-year-old Filippina woman might have had a shot at finding a husband in the US, even after WWII, maybe some vet who'd developed an interest in Asian women while at war in the Pacific. But she would have had to have mingled more, which didn't work with her situation.

I can understand a man reading the story and thinking he could come 'rescue' some poor domestic servant who'd been turned into a slave from this scenario. I don't get why someone would read this sad story and just draw from it there might be slaves available like this poor woman that could be used for sex. I think we are in agreement on that last point.
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I shared this sad story with my wife the other day and posted it on FB.

My wife made it clear that this sort of thing still happens in the Philippines (and probably lots of other places). Parents essentially sell their children into slavery.

There is a large difference between Filipinas being paid poorly as domestic workers or mistreated and abused working abroad. This was literally a case where the woman believed she was owned (and the owner believed it too) and was paid nothing for her efforts. As the writer states, it took him till he was about 11 to understand what "Lola" actually was - a slave.
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I'm not sure why I am considered an ogre for suggesting this when other men, such as the Founder, are advocating hitting up bargirls there. Obviously, by "slavery" I don't mean true legal coercion, but rather the implantation of the emotion inside the woman that she is bound to dutifully serve her man as a proper servant/mate - something that went with the territory with even *American* women a century ago, when American men didn't have to resort of being "happier abroad" just to get pvssy.

I'd be interested in what Winston has to say about this. I know he's not a squish.
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