I'm tired of my GF's asking me for money!

[publicduende]

Found on Reddit.

Back story here...

I'm a 30 year old foreigner of Puerto Rican descent who chose to live in the Philippines due to the nature of my job. I work for a scientific research company which studies the ocean, and my work contracts are pretty short at only 2-3 months. I thought I would try to live in the Philippines since it was similar culturally and geographically to Puerto Rico but with a vastly lower cost of living, and my work allows me to take extended periods of time off.

Naturally, I tried to date Filipino girls, but I keep running into the same problem over and over again..

Im tired of my FILIPINA girlfriends always asking for money!

I've dated many Filipinas, and I've tried to treat them like normal girlfriends, paying for our outings, talking to them about deep things, treating that with respect and trying my best to adjust to their culture.....but after a while they always ask me "why don't you give me cash.....where is my allowance"?

I don't say it, but I think....Oh sorry, I didn't know you were a prosti...

They'll ghost soon after that. I've had multiple of them end up with, I shit you not, 65 year old white men, and then try to justify it in their head saying he's handsome lol. I've had girls say I've made them feel cheap because I didn't give them straight up cash, even if I paid for all of our dating expenses.

I make a good salary (600k a month), but I'm not flashy or a braggart, I never tell them how much money I earn....its not how I was raised. I have millions of pesos in the bank and I have a 10k oppo phone....yet I've had girls demand an iPhone 14 after 1 week of casual dating lol. Girls demanding I pay for 15 people to go on an outing while they all speak Tagalog and give me the cold shoulder without even saying so much as thank you.....girls demanding I buy them motors.....girls demanding i pay for expensive medical procedures for unknown family members.......all after less than 1 month of dating!

The middle-upper class girls want nothing to do with me and straight up give me their back and turn their nose up to me when I attempt to approach them due to the association of foreigners and Filipinas with gold digging and prostitution..

It seems they are conditioned to think that if you are dating a foreigner, he has to be sugar daddy, if not, dump him and find one who will do what you want when you want him to do it. I'm generous, but I'm not a fool nor will I be taken advantage of. I hate these dumb old white men who come to the Philippines and spoil it for people trying to have normal decent relationships.

I'm 30 years old, good career, handsome (that's what they say not me).......and It's hard AF to have a normal relationship here!

I tried Philippines, but the culture is toxic. See you in Puerto Rico if you ever make it there.

I think this guy could be a bit of an extreme. He is probably looking for girls in seedy bars or casual hookup sites. He needs to have a "barkada", a group of friends who will, over time, learn to trust him, become aware that he is not a fly-by-night womanizer but an expat on a very good salary, ready to enjoy the city with his new partner.

Depending on one's sense of initiative, quality of professional and social circles and quite a bit of luck, OP shouldn't have no problems finding a quality girl who is financially independent and wouldn't even begin to imagine asking for an allowance. True that those good girls who have this quality and are also young, unmarried, pretty and single, are not growing on a mango tree, not even in the Philippines! It takes effort.

[MarcosZeitola]

I think this guy could be a bit of an extreme. He is probably looking for girls in seedy bars or casual hookup sites. He needs to have a "barkada", a group of friends who will, over time, learn to trust him, become aware that he is not a fly-by-night womanizer but an expat on a very good salary, ready to enjoy the city with his new partner.

Depending on one's sense of initiative, quality of professional and social circles and quite a bit of luck, OP shouldn't have no problems finding a quality girl who is financially independent and wouldn't even begin to imagine asking for an allowance. True that those good girls who have this quality and are also young, unmarried, pretty and single, are not growing on a mango tree, not even in the Philippines! It takes effort.

True... he needs a barkada. And he needs to take it nice and slow. The biggest, number one mistake foreign men in the Philippines make is rushing into things. They're only discovering the level of quality they could get, and are missing out on, once they're already settled down and married, at which point they're usually shit out of luck.

Learned this the hard way, myself.

[publicduende]

True... he needs a barkada. And he needs to take it nice and slow. The biggest, number one mistake foreign men in the Philippines make is rushing into things. They're only discovering the level of quality they could get, and are missing out on, once they're already settled down and married, at which point they're usually shit out of luck.

Learned this the hard way, myself.

Absolutely true, Then there's the whole aspect of whether looking for an upper-class group of friends who might snub OP anyway, simply because he is not a scion of a known local family, or because nobody known in the Manila scene was his godfather/godmother, is worth it.

Filipino society is warm, friendly and inclusive only insofar the foreigner is perceived as an asset to the host community. A walking ATM, basically, or maybe a source of sperm that leads to fair-skin, artista-looking kids, or simply a trophy friend to show off to other friends.

[willymonfrete]

This is the problem with men heeding foolish advice from losers that really became passport bros in the worst places,because it was their only shot.

Let's be honest,this guy could have much better gone to a less touristy latin american country,and gotten a hot woman that does not see him as a cash cow.

But he heeded the advice'go to the filipines!'.A handsome puerto rican guy can clean up in alot of places with much higher quality women all around,no need to go to the absolute bottom of the barrel country that only white rejects go to because it's their only and last hope.

[MrMan]

My wife is Indonesian, not Filipina. I don't hear as much about girls conning western guys there, but I don't think there are as many of them with western men. In some ways the cultures are similar. They are both made up largely of Malay peoples.

I don't remember my wife hitting me up for a nickel before we got engaged. I did offer to pay her tuition when we were still just friends. She didn't say anything about it. She was just praying about getting her tuition paid. I kind of figured there was a good chance I would marry her at that point... something I had a sense of soon after our first conversation...and so felt it was reasonable to pay for her education, and something I would mind paying for otherwise. It was around $50.

She was staying with an 'aunt' who wasn't a blood relative, her 'spiritual mother' (which also translates as Ms. Spiritual, which I've told her as a joke) and 'lifted up mother', like foster or adopted mother, but not legally. Anyway, she had to go a long way and didn't have as flexible a schedule staying there, so I volunteered to pay for some tiny amount for her to rent a boarding house. My guess is was probably $10 or $20 a month to rent the room back then during the 'cheap Asia' days after the currency crisis. She was really close to her school and probably 0.8 of a mile from where I lived. I could easily escort her home and go back to my place after I took her out to dinner.

At first she expressed concern with all the phone bills (local calls cost money) I was racking up to talk to her all the time before she moved. Then she was concerned about all the money I was spending on food and would try to find the good deals. A typical nice meal was about $1.50 back then for one. I didn't care. I needed to eat and I was getting to know the woman I would marry.

After I asked her to marry me, and probably after her parents approved, she had borrowed about $100 to open a food stall at a mall, something she'd done to support herself before she met me. I paid that off, and maybe some other small debt for her. She did ask if I minded paying for that. We might have been married at that time, come to think of it. I didn't mind. The amounts being small kind of helped.

When I first went to meet her parents, though, her step-mom had me buying the family groceries at first. Her sister apologized, and her parents backed off from that sort of thing. I know they didn't have a lot, and I didn't mind helping, but my wife communicated some concerns about using me as an ATM when I was around. But we did send money to her and her dad while they were alive, and she sends money to her mom, too.

I think it is fitting that children support parents. If there are a lot of them who send money, that makes it easier. Giving in a third-world economy where a little goes a long way also helps. That isn't necessarily the case with my in-laws. My parents have a good retirement. They might turn down cash, but they don't turn down those cards to buy food at restaurants at birthdays, mother's and father's day.

I wouldn't have wanted to date a girl who treated me like an ATM, though. If she doesn't have a sense of self-restraint or discomfort hitting me up for cash, that would have been a red flag. You can't control her relatives attitude, though.

[Yohan]

We don't know anything about this Puerto Rica man, I do not believe all and everything what he writes. For example his 'monthly income' - is it really long-term and secure or as he writes only for a few months if he can catch a contract...

Philippines is not everywhere the same and he does not mention where he is living, if he pays rent in a cheap place or is the owner of a fairly expensive condominium unit, nothing about his visa status and he obviously has problems to understand that Philippines is not USA where you walk into bars for free hook-up with some girls sitting there....

Available girls in bars in Philippines always are asking for some money...
He does not understand that most Filipinos do not have any social security/insurance/savings in case of accidents or illness and young men and women, even those with higher education are often jobless for many months.

Further, in many countries in Asia, to find a reasonable female often depends on introduction and it seems he has otherwise no or very little contact with local people....no local friends....

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Generally about Philippines and other Asian countries, if you come from USA or Europe etc. as a man considering long-stay, first of all make sure you have your documents in order and live in a comfortable secure home - this should be your priority. About girls, better start with that a bit later....

[Natural_Born_Cynic]

He should just get a $1000 sex doll instead. One time payment and sex dolls are almost realistic now.
Saves him lot of hassle. Sex dolls doesn't pester him for money.

*warning, may contain some nudity*
https://firstlovedoll.net/?gclid=EAIaIQ ... gIojfD_BwE

https://absolutesexdoll.com/collections ... gLxNfD_BwE

[Shemp]

The guy is looking at things wrong. Does he enjoy the girl? If so, why not pay? He pays for hotels, restaurants, airfare and other transportation, why not pay for female companionship? If he doesn't enjoy the girl (like when everyone talking Tagalog), then walk away.

Note that this guy says nothing about marriage, which is how men traditionally "pay" women for very long term relationships, usually including children. He justs wants to "date", meaning sex and "deep conversations" (LOL, girl should demand extra pay for listening to that shit) and then he thinks paying for dinner is sufficient. Sorry, if the girl just wants dick, plenty of free dick from young local men, probably as good looking as this 30yo Puerto Rican if they are very young men. Free dinner is nice but the 65yo white guy is offering free dinner plus cash plus none of that "deep conversation" bullshit. So she can get free dick from a handsome young local guy, free dinner and cash from the 65yo white guy, and then what does this PR have to offer? Deep conversation and respect for local culture, he says. Unfortunately, he doesn't understand local culture nor truly respect local culture, because local culture doesn't give a crap about deep conversation and local culture says a relatively rich foreigner who just wants to date (=sex), without marriage and children, needs to pay cash, not just free dinner.

[galii]

He should just get a $1000 sex doll instead. One time payment and sex dolls are almost realistic now.
Saves him lot of hassle. Sex dolls doesn't pester him for money.

*warning, may contain some nudity*
https://firstlovedoll.net/?gclid=EAIaIQ ... gIojfD_BwE

https://absolutesexdoll.com/collections ... gLxNfD_BwE

They look good. I can imagine some guys putting all their money to get different dolls. lol. So it looks like a harem. There might be coming some Yt videos showing these guys.

[Natural_Born_Cynic]

He should just get a $1000 sex doll instead. One time payment and sex dolls are almost realistic now.
Saves him lot of hassle. Sex dolls doesn't pester him for money.

*warning, may contain some nudity*
https://firstlovedoll.net/?gclid=EAIaIQ ... gIojfD_BwE

https://absolutesexdoll.com/collections ... gLxNfD_BwE

They look good. I can imagine some guys putting all their money to get different dolls. lol. So it looks like a harem. There might be coming some Yt videos showing these guys.

The initial investment may seem expensive, but in the long run.. much much cheaper than a real b*tch and why sign a slave contract to one real b*tch when you have a entire "harem" of women who will always be compliant to your sexual demands?

[galii]

He should just get a $1000 sex doll instead. One time payment and sex dolls are almost realistic now.
Saves him lot of hassle. Sex dolls doesn't pester him for money.

*warning, may contain some nudity*
https://firstlovedoll.net/?gclid=EAIaIQ ... gIojfD_BwE

https://absolutesexdoll.com/collections ... gLxNfD_BwE

They look good. I can imagine some guys putting all their money to get different dolls. lol. So it looks like a harem. There might be coming some Yt videos showing these guys.

The initial investment may seem expensive, but in the long run.. much much cheaper than a real b*tch and why sign a slave contract to one real b*tch
when you have a entire "harem" of women who will always be compliant to your sexual demands?

Agreed. They were like 5k couple years ago as far I remember so they became quite cheaper.

[Natural_Born_Cynic]

He should just get a $1000 sex doll instead. One time payment and sex dolls are almost realistic now.
Saves him lot of hassle. Sex dolls doesn't pester him for money.

*warning, may contain some nudity*
https://firstlovedoll.net/?gclid=EAIaIQ ... gIojfD_BwE

https://absolutesexdoll.com/collections ... gLxNfD_BwE

They look good. I can imagine some guys putting all their money to get different dolls. lol. So it looks like a harem. There might be coming some Yt videos showing these guys.

The initial investment may seem expensive, but in the long run.. much much cheaper than a real b*tch and why sign a slave contract to one real b*tch
when you have a entire "harem" of women who will always be compliant to your sexual demands?

Agreed. They were like 5k couple years ago as far I remember so they became quite cheaper.

Now compare, and tell me which one is better?

Sex doll
1)1k

Real b*tch in America
1) Dating(taking her out, buying her gifts,and your real b*tch wants to be wined and dined like her whore friends in instagram) = $1k- $10k or more
2) Wedding(venue, catering, people invited) = between $1k to $50k or more
3) Family house with 30 year mortgage with interest(your real b*tch wants to keep up with the jones and buy expensive house in the suburbs) = $300k or more.
4) Kid 1-22 year old: food, clothes, extracurriculars, education(elementary to college) also account for property tax paid to
the town for your kid's public schools and college tuition(because your real b*tch will not settle for community college) = 50k - 100k or more
5) Divorce= 50% of your assets, alimony, child support, you have to pay for b*tch's lawyer and your lawyer.
6) The Emotional cost and level of responsibility= very high and you will not be compensated for all the hours put in for your real b*tch and your spoiled brat kid.
7) Return of investment= 50/50 chance of your b*tch might one day divorce you for some chad or tyrone and your kid might be a selfish bastard and not support you at old age.
8. Her student loan debt and other debt= your responsibility now! cuckboy!

[galii]

He should just get a $1000 sex doll instead. One time payment and sex dolls are almost realistic now.
Saves him lot of hassle. Sex dolls doesn't pester him for money.

*warning, may contain some nudity*
https://firstlovedoll.net/?gclid=EAIaIQ ... gIojfD_BwE

https://absolutesexdoll.com/collections ... gLxNfD_BwE

They look good. I can imagine some guys putting all their money to get different dolls. lol. So it looks like a harem. There might be coming some Yt videos showing these guys.

The initial investment may seem expensive, but in the long run.. much much cheaper than a real b*tch and why sign a slave contract to one real b*tch
when you have a entire "harem" of women who will always be compliant to your sexual demands?

Agreed. They were like 5k couple years ago as far I remember so they became quite cheaper.

Now compare, and tell me which one is better?

Sex doll
1)1k

Real b*tch in America
1) Dating(taking her out, buying her gifts,and your real b*tch wants to be wined and dined like her whore friends in instagram) = $1k- $10k or more
2) Wedding(venue, catering, people invited) = between $1k to $50k or more
3) Family house with 30 year mortgage with interest(your real b*tch wants to keep up with the jones and buy expensive house in the suburbs) = $300k or more.
4) Kid 1-22 year old: food, clothes, extracurriculars, education(elementary to college) also account for property tax paid to
the town for your kid's public schools and college tuition(because your real b*tch will not settle for community college) = 50k - 100k or more
5) Divorce= 50% of your assets, alimony, child support, you have to pay for b*tch's lawyer and your lawyer.
6) The Emotional cost and level of responsibility= very high and you will not be compensated for all the hours put in for your real b*tch and your spoiled brat kid.
7) Return of investment= 50/50 chance of your b*tch might one day divorce you for some chad or tyrone and your kid might be a selfish bastard and not support you at old age.
8. Her student loan debt and other debt= your responsibility now! cuckboy!

I am a veteran mgtow so you are preeching to the chore. lol.

But one can still additionally do the classic Phlippines early retirement thing or long sabbatical once in while.

[Natural_Born_Cynic]

They look good. I can imagine some guys putting all their money to get different dolls. lol. So it looks like a harem. There might be coming some Yt videos showing these guys.

The initial investment may seem expensive, but in the long run.. much much cheaper than a real b*tch and why sign a slave contract to one real b*tch
when you have a entire "harem" of women who will always be compliant to your sexual demands?

Agreed. They were like 5k couple years ago as far I remember so they became quite cheaper.

Now compare, and tell me which one is better?

Sex doll
1)1k

Real b*tch in America
1) Dating(taking her out, buying her gifts,and your real b*tch wants to be wined and dined like her whore friends in instagram) = $1k- $10k or more
2) Wedding(venue, catering, people invited) = between $1k to $50k or more
3) Family house with 30 year mortgage with interest(your real b*tch wants to keep up with the jones and buy expensive house in the suburbs) = $300k or more.
4) Kid 1-22 year old: food, clothes, extracurriculars, education(elementary to college) also account for property tax paid to
the town for your kid's public schools and college tuition(because your real b*tch will not settle for community college) = 50k - 100k or more
5) Divorce= 50% of your assets, alimony, child support, you have to pay for b*tch's lawyer and your lawyer.
6) The Emotional cost and level of responsibility= very high and you will not be compensated for all the hours put in for your real b*tch and your spoiled brat kid.
7) Return of investment= 50/50 chance of your b*tch might one day divorce you for some chad or tyrone and your kid might be a selfish bastard and not support you at old age.
8. Her student loan debt and other debt= your responsibility now! cuckboy!

I am a veteran mgtow so you are preeching to the chore. lol.

But one can still additionally do the classic Phlippines early retirement thing or long sabbatical once in while.

Philippines eh?

Well Guess what, Winston and Co have been complaining about Filipinas always asking them for money not only for her but also for her entire f*cking family and relatives. I read some of Winston's past threads about Diane and Angelo and I don't think he is happy with them. The cost of living would be a fraction of the U.S, but all the locals will see you as a walking ATM machine. The entire town might want a piece of your money. A harem of sex dolls is much cheaper solution.

[galii]

The initial investment may seem expensive, but in the long run.. much much cheaper than a real b*tch and why sign a slave contract to one real b*tch
when you have a entire "harem" of women who will always be compliant to your sexual demands?

Agreed. They were like 5k couple years ago as far I remember so they became quite cheaper.

Now compare, and tell me which one is better?

Sex doll
1)1k

Real b*tch in America
1) Dating(taking her out, buying her gifts,and your real b*tch wants to be wined and dined like her whore friends in instagram) = $1k- $10k or more
2) Wedding(venue, catering, people invited) = between $1k to $50k or more
3) Family house with 30 year mortgage with interest(your real b*tch wants to keep up with the jones and buy expensive house in the suburbs) = $300k or more.
4) Kid 1-22 year old: food, clothes, extracurriculars, education(elementary to college) also account for property tax paid to
the town for your kid's public schools and college tuition(because your real b*tch will not settle for community college) = 50k - 100k or more
5) Divorce= 50% of your assets, alimony, child support, you have to pay for b*tch's lawyer and your lawyer.
6) The Emotional cost and level of responsibility= very high and you will not be compensated for all the hours put in for your real b*tch and your spoiled brat kid.
7) Return of investment= 50/50 chance of your b*tch might one day divorce you for some chad or tyrone and your kid might be a selfish bastard and not support you at old age.
8. Her student loan debt and other debt= your responsibility now! cuckboy!

I am a veteran mgtow so you are preeching to the chore. lol.

But one can still additionally do the classic Phlippines early retirement thing or long sabbatical once in while.

Philippines eh?

Well Guess what, Winston and Co have been complaining about Filipinas always asking them for money not only for her but also for her entire f*cking family and relatives. I read some of Winston's past threads about Diane and Angelo and I don't think he is happy with them. The cost of living would be a fraction of the U.S, but all the locals will see you as a walking ATM machine. The entire town might want a piece of your money. A harem of sex dolls is much cheaper solution.

The point is not everybody can do the doll solution. Some people are programmed to get the real thing from time to time. If you are immune to it more power to you. I mean I did it. I lived many years in the Philippines thank God covid came and I had to go. It was quite addictive. I was also in AC. It is a shithole and the humidity is annoying as f**k. I bit of adventure before one gets old is not always a bad thing plus you can retire there much earlier because it is so cheap.

I went there for many reasons but one was of FOMO. I went there as kind of an insurence in case I might get regret for missing out on that stuff. For me I think it was necessary. I wish I would be strong enough to not even need that but it is what it is. So take in account you might want to experience the adventure a bit at least.

Sex happens in the brain too. You can have nice memories that might help for your sexual fantasies with your dolls. In the Ph I wanted the anticipations which created the memories. Many times I chose not to have sex with some girls because I thought it would destory my fantasy of her. Now I can think about them and the fantasy is always different because I did not sleep with them.

Again if it works for you more power to you.