Are Ukrainian men really stupid?

[Moretorque]

Ukranians have a strong sense of national pride. They also have a strong distrust of the Russians, which did everything they could to weaken Ukraine as a state to serve the interests of Moscow alone. To the Ukranians, allowing Moscow to win would be akin to Republicans letting Democrats forcibly take over their states in the United States- it is completely unthinkable, because they know their best interests are nowhere near the minds of their aggressors.

This forum continues to amaze, its slathering of cowardly boys claiming to be men, yet ones that can't seem to land a woman or be happy. It's almost like maybe you lack all of the positive traits associated with men and get angry at the world because their cowardice, apathy, and lack of drive have been rewarded with exactly what they deserve. The number of actual men here is rather low, and it is quite sad.

Not everybody can be equipped like the black man and really smart as well..

[WanderingProtagonist]

Your statement is incoherent, but is the gist of it that it is good that Ukrainians are cooperating with the Jews exterminating them?

If anything, Russia's current government is doing the Jews' bidding too, sending countless young white men to the slaughterhouse for the benefit of Jewish oligarchs. Ukraine is being completely destroyed, obviously, but honestly so is Russia. The amount of investments they have lost, the number of foreign companies that has left due to sanctions, it's terrible. Sure they may export a little more oil and gas now than they used to, selling it at bargain prices, but they're hardly "winning". Whatever this war is, it's not to Russia's benefit nor Ukraine's.

If I was a Ukrainian man, or a Russian man for that matter, I would get the hell out of there. That's not because I hate Ukraine, but simply because dying for the defense of ANY country is foolishness... nationalism is ultimately a sign of low IQ, regardless of what side a man is on. Gullible fools die for their countries... all the smart folks have left already. Russia is down about a million highly educated folks since the start of the war, and it isn't a coincidence; only botherline retards, alcoholic f**k-ups and losers with nothing to lose willingly die for their overlords, be it in Kiev or Moscow.

I wouldn't say that nationalism is a sign of low IQ if you really do love your country, it's culture and heritage enough that you are fighting to defend all of that from assholes trying to invade you and take over your nation. Unfortunately a lot of wars today aren't fought to defend any of these things because most countries are controlled by these JEw f***s using and exploiting every country that let them.

So of course any man trying to fight for a country today is fighting for the people who are using and exploiting them to do much worse when they are gone and dead. Fact is if you do run or flee you leave your women and the kids behind to get f***ed by the invaders regardless. The best way to deal with this issue is to turn on the people using your country as a vessel to do whatever it is they are planning to do to it instead of fighting and serving their interest instead of your own country and it's people who are the victims in all of this. Of course I would never defend a feminist occupied country or a country like America, f**k the U.S. this country belongs to anyone who wants to come here and do what they want to it, therefore America, Canada, Australia, Germany, Sweden, etc those places aren't worth trying to defend worth for shit. I would never fight for any country today, but fighting in wars during other time periods before the Jews had anything to do with any of this was much different. Leaders at the time fought with their men on the battlefield, something leaders no longer do anymore because they rather just let other people die while they sit back and reep whatever benefits or rewards there are when it's all over and that's if their side actually "wins" even when they are really losing...Just like the West did after WWII.

[Cornfed]

As I've said before, situations like this make me feel better about Anglo-Celtic people. Exterminating us is the culmination of an intricate and multi-faceted centuries long plan. For the Jews to exterminate Ukrainians is like taking candy from a baby. Perhaps the Jews could be forgiven for thinking that if a people have so little of what it takes to survive then someone is bound to wipe them out and profit from doing so, so it might as well be them.

[CaptainSkelebob]

Ukrainian man is kicking putins little beta faggits right back across the border fellas
Putin is fked and he knows it!!
They might as well be firing bombs made of fuckin lego fellas!!!
They would of done more damage if they stood on the border throwing jars of farts at the Ukraine army
Coz their bombs are dropping to bits and their fkin tanks must be from ikea

[MarcosZeitola]

Ukrainian man is kicking putins little beta faggits right back across the border fellas
Putin is fked and he knows it!!
They might as well be firing bombs made of fuckin lego fellas!!!
They would of done more damage if they stood on the border throwing jars of farts at the Ukraine army
Coz their bombs are dropping to bits and their fkin tanks must be from ikea

That's an interesting way of describing the situation. But yeah, obviously Russia's army isn't as strong as Putin portrayed it to be for the past decade or two, that much is certain at this point. The whole thing is kind of a massive shit show lol. The way in which some people are overly attached to Putin and Russia is kind of pathetic, and I will enjoy seeing the collective meltdown of 'the right' if and when Russia's army crumbles. Given the huge amount of NATO support pumped into Ukraine, it's not unlikely.

[CaptainSkelebob]

Ukrainian man is kicking putins little beta faggits right back across the border fellas
Putin is fked and he knows it!!
They might as well be firing bombs made of fuckin lego fellas!!!
They would of done more damage if they stood on the border throwing jars of farts at the Ukraine army
Coz their bombs are dropping to bits and their fkin tanks must be from ikea

That's an interesting way of describing the situation. But yeah, obviously Russia's army isn't as strong as Putin portrayed it to be for the past decade or two, that much is certain at this point. The whole thing is kind of a massive shit show lol. The way in which some people are overly attached to Putin and Russia is kind of pathetic, and I will enjoy seeing the collective meltdown of 'the right' if and when Russia's army crumbles. Given the huge amount of NATO support pumped into Ukraine, it's not unlikely.

NATO do right to support ukraine
Putting has commuted war crimes fella
War on Ukraine is war on democracy really coz pitin want to get communism back!!
Ukraine wanted to join Nato and should be able to without putin knocking the chessboard over like the stupid pony riding faggot that he is
Seriously fella
You seen that cunt prancing around on his f***ing pony like he thinks hes one of the fickin my little pony gang...
Hes a faggot

[HouseMD]

Ukranians have a strong sense of national pride. They also have a strong distrust of the Russians, which did everything they could to weaken Ukraine as a state to serve the interests of Moscow alone. To the Ukranians, allowing Moscow to win would be akin to Republicans letting Democrats forcibly take over their states in the United States- it is completely unthinkable, because they know their best interests are nowhere near the minds of their aggressors.

This forum continues to amaze, its slathering of cowardly boys claiming to be men, yet ones that can't seem to land a woman or be happy. It's almost like maybe you lack all of the positive traits associated with men and get angry at the world because their cowardice, apathy, and lack of drive have been rewarded with exactly what they deserve. The number of actual men here is rather low, and it is quite sad.

Your statement is incoherent, but is the gist of it that it is good that Ukrainians are cooperating with the Jews exterminating them?

I find it amusing that you are against the Jews and yet support Putin. Both sides are quite friendly with Israel and the Jews

https://m.jpost.com/diaspora/putin-not- ... 546556/amp

[Moretorque]

Aren't those pretty much the same people fighting one another ? I think the entire thing is just about getting WW 3 going so they can shut the west down, kill most westerners off in the process and get most all of the company store moved to the east for the future plan to go in full swing with a depopulation cherry on top..

[Cornfed]

I find it amusing that you are against the Jews and yet support Putin. Both sides are quite friendly with Israel and the Jews

Any world leader has to kowtow to the satanic cult of Judaism to some extent. If it is the case that Putin is a globalist puppet, the point still stands. It is still stupid to fight your fellow Slavs for the Jews, even or especially if they are secretly fighting for the Jews as well.

[HouseMD]

I find it amusing that you are against the Jews and yet support Putin. Both sides are quite friendly with Israel and the Jews

Any world leader has to kowtow to the satanic cult of Judaism to some extent. If it is the case that Putin is a globalist puppet, the point still stands. It is still stupid to fight your fellow Slavs for the Jews, even or especially if they are secretly fighting for the Jews as well.

Putin is the aggressor that is killing fellow Slavs. He literally just had to choose not to attack and can retreat at any time back to Russia. He is choosing to murder his brothers

[Cornfed]

Putin is the aggressor that is killing fellow Slavs. He literally just had to choose not to attack and can retreat at any time back to Russia. He is choosing to murder his brothers

Oh come on, you should know better than that.

[Pixel--Dude]

Aren't those pretty much the same people fighting one another ? I think the entire thing is just about getting WW 3 going so they can shut the west down, kill most westerners off in the process and get most all of the company store moved to the east for the future plan to go in full swing with a depopulation cherry on top..

I think you could be right. The Great Reset and NWO has little need for countless slaves. Best to just eradicate the majority of them. Their new system will work better with less people under it who could potentially see them for the toxic demons they are and rise against them in violent protest.

[ladislav]

This war is a very complicated, convoluted affair with many parties involved and both benefiting and losing taking place. A mixture of aggression, opportunism and stupidity.
First of all, as to getting out of the country if you were a Ukrainian man, it is not allowed for men 18-60. And those who did get out are now about to be extradited back from Poland, etc. So, if you were a Ukrainian man, you would simply be stopped at the border.
You saw what the Russians did in occuppied territories. Innocent people killed,wives raped, kids raped, and killed. Old people killed.
So you think fighting for your country is stupid and you would rather get out. But you are not allowed to get out even if you are a non patriot. By law.
I am sure some Jews are involved, but a grand conspiracy by Jews to destroy the whites is not taking place. Unless you show proof.
Most are non Jews that are in this war. Many Jews are on the Ukrainian side fighting as regular soldiers. And some Jews on the Russian side are oligarchs. But maybe 3-4 people only. Hardly a conspiracy. There are some 300,000 Jews in Russia. Those are not wanted. The super rich oligarchs are another story.
The Russians do not like Jews period. They want them out of the country. And they'd been kicking them out for 200 years already. To the US, Palestine, etc.
As far as the conspiracy by Jews to destroy the white race, where is the proof? Weaken Russia, yes. Totally a great opportunity without having to fight it. Will be cheaper in the long run for the West to have UA fight it.
Back to the white race.
There is no such concept in those countries as it is not America. It is Slavic vs non Slavic and then Russian vs other Slavs vs Anglo Saxons. No " whites" there.
Ultimately on the Russian side, it is a war for more territories with resources as the Empire needs continuous conquest to feed its center and its elites. In it, it uses cannon fodder from mainly poorer, outlying provinces. And it does not care if the people dying are blond Slavs or Native Siberians or Turkics. For Ukrainians it is about keeping their language, culture, territory, farms, etc as well for its own elite keeping power and resources and having a free wheeling capitalist democracy for the people as well.
They do not feel they are dying for some Jews because, well, probably they are not.
And of course, greedy banksters see opportunities in all this.
As far as the lady barber telling the person to shut up, it was rude, sorry to hear that. At the same time, many Ukies get tired of the ignorant questions and statements. Outsiders simply know very little about the country.
Putin offered peace in exchange for captured territories. This is against the int'l law. Also, he will want more if appeased.
You don't know Russia. Ukies do.

[Natural_Born_Cynic]

Answer: Yes, the Ukrainians are f*cking stupid. They are fighting a war they can't afford to win. Ukrainians are used as cannon fodder for the elites. It's better for them to just surrender now. They have lost 450,000 men and 2 million wounded and most of their country shelled beyond recognition and wasting Western taxpayer money on their sh*tty half-assed publicity stunts, I mean "offensive". Ukrainians should just f*cking surrender.

[Shemp]

Answer: Yes, the Ukrainians are f*cking stupid.

Correct, though it's more complicated than you make it seem. Surrender is not that easy in a messy war zone, when you have to cross mine fields and no guarantee the Russians won't mistake you for wanting to attack versus surrender. Desertion a better idea, but Ukraine has special enforcer soldiers to stop that. So you'd have to shoot a fellow Ukrainian soldier while deserting, which is murder, and no guarantee you'll succeed or that you will be able to escape eventual capture and punishment for murder. Avoiding conscription also difficult, because most Ukrainian civilians don't have weapons but commissars do, and even if civilians did have weapons, once again it's murder or at a minimum assault with deadly weapon to fight off the commissar. Borders are all carefully guarded, so you'd have to kill a border guard, then no guarantee the neighboring country won't send you back, since you're guilty of murder. As for the leaders and higher ranking officers, they are hardly stupid, because as soon as war ends, money spigot gets turned off and they are toast, so they desperately need to keep the war going until they all have escape parachutes ready.

It's people like @ladislav who are truly stupid, in the Ukrainian peasant way. All peasants think owning square kilometers of land matters. As if USA would be more powerful if it moved the border of North Dakota north some so that USA "owned" some more farmland. Ownership means nothing. Military control is what matters. Russia wants, and will get , military control of all of Ukraine by the time this war is done. If they are smart, Russians will "own" as little as possible of what used to be Ukrainian land, precisely because stupid peasants like ladislav, who is Ukrainian ancestry if I'm not mistaken, think "ownership" is important. Whereas what is really important is who has military control.

As for ladislav's talk of expanding empire, that is a projection of USA ambition to expand its empire into Ukraine. Russia is not increasing its empire, since Ukraine was part of Russia's effective empire until 2014. Russia is merely defending its empire against USA encroachment. Ukraine will always be a vassal of another empire. It tried switching empires from Russia to USA and is currently being punished for that act of treachery.

Switching empires is usually considered treacherous and thus dangerous unless the new empire is willing and able to protect the incoming vassal. USA was not willing or able to protect Ukraine, so Ukraine was foolish to attempt switching sides. By contrast, China will eventually be both willing and able to protect Taiwan, South Korea and Japan when they switch from USA vassals to Chinese vassals. Taiwan will switch by 2030, South Korea maybe by 2050, Japan late in this century.