Are People Who Hunt For Fun Degenerates?

[Cornfed]

resorting to name calling only demonstrates I've touched a nerve. Stunted freak?

Yes, do you not realize how badly damaged you are as a result of growing up in a shithole like the UK? You are like all the trannies who think they are normal and "cis" people are bad somehow.

Pmsl dude, are you trying to piss me off or make me laugh. What the f**k are you talking about?

You don't know what you haven't got. It is sad how disaffected from normal life the likes of you are. In rural NZ if you or someone on your behalf didn't kill things you would be overrun with rodents and possums. Of course people on your behalf are killing things so you can eat, but you live in a fantasy world where this is bad. You are a deformed freak person.

[Cornfed]

resorting to name calling only demonstrates I've touched a nerve. Stunted freak?

Yes, do you not realize how badly damaged you are as a result of growing up in a shithole like the UK? You are like all the trannies who think they are normal and "cis" people are bad somehow.

Pmsl dude, are you trying to piss me off or make me laugh. What the f**k are you talking about?

You don't know what you haven't got. It is sad how disaffected from normal life the likes of you are. In rural NZ if you or someone on your behalf didn't kill things you would be overrun with rodents and possums. Of course people on your behalf are killing things so you can eat, but you live in a fantasy world where this is bad. You are a deformed freak person.

[Pixel--Dude]

If a man is dropped in the enclosure of a lion, a tiger or a hippo, he is killed brutally by them nine out of ten times. Animals hunt, they kill, cats play with their prey and toy with birds and mice, torturing them for fun. Animals are cruel fuckers. And we, humans, are cruelest of all. That's why we're on top of the foodchain. We're all degenerates, one way or another.

If @Cornfed and other big game hunters want to larp as real men then maybe they should climb into a lion enclosure with a bowie knife and get up close and personal. Shooting a lion or tiger with a rifle just for shits and giggles from miles away is just a p***y degenerate move.

I love all animals. I respect them and their place in the world. It should be the job of humans as a so-called evolved species to act as their caretakers. Instead we have cowardly game hunters who kill animals just because they're bored and plant their heads on the wall. Then these same assholes have the gumption to still delusionally believe they're morally superior when the fact of the matter is that they are just morally bankrupt, broken people.

[Pixel--Dude]

resorting to name calling only demonstrates I've touched a nerve. Stunted freak?

Yes, do you not realize how badly damaged you are as a result of growing up in a shithole like the UK? You are like all the trannies who think they are normal and "cis" people are bad somehow.

Pmsl dude, are you trying to piss me off or make me laugh. What the f**k are you talking about?

You don't know what you haven't got. It is sad how disaffected from normal life the likes of you are. In rural NZ if you or someone on your behalf didn't kill things you would be overrun with rodents and possums. Of course people on your behalf are killing things so you can eat, but you live in a fantasy world where this is bad. You are a deformed freak person.

Are the muscles in your head affecting your ability to read? Hunting for food and hunting for pest control are not the same thing as Trophy Hunting. Why don't you stop getting emotional, put a tampon in and actually read the thread before smashing your keyboard with your fists in an attempt to speak.

[Cornfed]

Are the muscles in your head affecting your ability to read? Hunting for food and hunting for pest control are not the same thing as Trophy Hunting.

They are variations on the same thing in the same way that sex not directly aimed at procreation is often a desirable variation. In the case of trophy hunting as a practical matter it places a monetary and cultural value on the animals, which is a good thing for all concerned. If a culture like the Chinese who don't have the tradition of hunting come to dominate places like Africa, most likely all the game animals will be wiped out as a nuisance.

[publicduende]

Hunting and being able to hunt is part of the rites of our culture. As apex predators it is connected to our humanity and reinforces our connection with nature. Hunters are the most ardent conservationists and animal lovers. Quit trying to drag us down into a cultural sewer with you.

That might have been true when the atavic battle between Man and Beast was on. With the number of wild animals dwindling on the negative edge of replacement rate, hunting for fun is a luxury we'd rather avoid. I think that's why wild animal hunting is (and should) be heavily regulated. It's an expensive sport which wealthy people should pay a hefty price for.

There are other sports which are similar to hunting and also highly ritual and symbolic, like bull fighting. For brutal it is, we all know that raising bulls is much easier than raising lions or elephants. I can see lots of animalists are against it but, at the very least, it's more sustainable.

[Pixel--Dude]

Are the muscles in your head affecting your ability to read? Hunting for food and hunting for pest control are not the same thing as Trophy Hunting.

They are variations on the same thing in the same way that sex not directly aimed at procreation is often a desirable variation. In the case of trophy hunting as a practical matter it places a monetary and cultural value on the animals, which is a good thing for all concerned. If a culture like the Chinese who don't have the tradition of hunting come to dominate places like Africa, most likely all the game animals will be wiped out as a nuisance.

They are not variations of the same thing. Hunting animals for sport and a bit of fun is not the same as culling certain species to protect the balance of an eco system (which I'm still dubious about) pest control to prevent disease and all the rest of it isn't the same as some rich dentist travelling to the savannah just so he can mount a few heads on his wall.

How can you think this is morally permissible? Do you have any conscience at all? As a Christian do you ever wonder if God will look unfavourably upon your attitude to certain things? You seem very hateful at times. It's not healthy.

I love animals. I love all animals and I would never harm any of them. I don't eat meat, I only eat fish and vegetables. But at the same time I don't decry people who want to eat meat. I don't condemn hunting for food. I see that stuff as part of nature's cycle of life. Things eat other things it's just how nature works. Everything is cycles and balance. Sometimes people need to hunt certain animals to protect the equilibrium and stop the scale tipping.

But at the same time, that's not why some people hunt. It isn't for food and it isn't for pest control. It's simply for fun. That's degenerate in my opinion. f**k these types of people! And to put prices on animals and see them as a commodity only demonstrates further that you're far more entrenched in this system than you think you are. Animals shouldn't be given monetary value. They should he respected and taken care of by humanity. Not picked off and mounted on some cunt's wall.

[publicduende]

It literally is normal and has been for the entire existence of the human species and more. You are the equivalent on the mentally ill perverts decrying normal marriages. I deplore your attempt to impose your spiritual deformities on the rest of us. Just because the UK regime has turned you into a stunted freak is no reason for you to want to do the same to others.

Man, you're on an aggressive streak. Many of your posts are actually OK and quite balanced, until one day you just turn aggressive and unable to process other people's opinions. Anything that doesn't align to your mental mould to machine-cut precision immediately gets you on name calling and mocking mode. Seriously, I don't hate you or anything, but, are you suffering from some sort of bipolar disorder? I thought the relaxed Mexican life put a nice patch on your mental fragility?

Calling someone a "stunted freak" just for living in the UK and being generally against wild animal hunting, is quite a bit off. Especially when @Pixel--Dude has made very obvious in his posts here, that he doesn't like living in the UK and doesn't subscribe to the shitty nanny/police state it has become.

I may agree with you that hunting as human activity has its roots in the atavic need for man to challenge themselves by facing their fears, in the shape of a large, vicious wild animal, and overcoming them. But the OP isn't about having the balls of facing a wolf armed with just a knife. This is about a pseudo-sport where rich people kit up and shoot at wild animals, who already exist in tiny populations, from safe distance and with the sole goal of getting a thrill out of it.

Let's get that dentist of businessman face an angry elephant or tiger with their own bodies, perhaps armed with a simple knife or spear. That would carry a completely different meaning, both symbolic/ritualistic and practical.

[Cornfed]

I may agree with you that hunting as human activity has its roots in the atavic need for man to challenge themselves by facing their fears, in the shape of a large, vicious wild animal, and overcoming them. But the OP isn't about having the balls of facing a wolf armed with just a knife. This is about a pseudo-sport where rich people kit up and shoot at wild animals, who already exist in tiny populations, from safe distance and with the sole goal of getting a thrill out of it.

If they are killing the animals at an unsustainable rate so future generations won't get the same opportunity then of course that is bad and they are behaving like common boomers. I assume though that these are part of conservation-minded culls that would happen anyway and the hunters just provide additional funding, which is good. For example, in NZ, international hunters of Himalayan Tahr put money into the economy and provide a reason to keep a population of these animals alive that are threatened in their natural habitat and provide a cultural resource to locals, whereas they would otherwise likely be eradicated by the government. Everyone is a winner.

[Flat-Antelope7927]

Soyboys who are afraid to actually hunt like real men, especially if they're feminized European "men", need to just stick to videogames and cartoon Japanese porn. Let me guess, the "men" on here who are against hunting are all vegan European "men" who drink soylent and think that eating meat and being a normal heterosexual male is wrong, too.

[Pixel--Dude]

I assume though that these are part of conservation-minded culls that would happen anyway and the hunters just provide additional funding, which is good.

You assume? So your argument is based on opinion and emotion rather than empirical evidence?

I wanted to ask you, do you hunt at all? And in what context do you hunt? Do you hunt for food? Pest control or culls? Or are you a trophy hunter like the nob head dentist I posted above?

For example, in NZ, international hunters of Himalayan Tahr put money into the economy and provide a reason to keep a population of these animals alive that are threatened in their natural habitat and provide a cultural resource to locals, whereas they would otherwise likely be eradicated by the government. Everyone is a winner.

I see....

So an animal only deserves to be kept alive if it has monetary value and can contribute to the economy? And if that's the case their lives are only preserved so people can pay to come and shoot them. Sound logic there, Cornfed...

Man, you're on an aggressive streak. Many of your posts are actually OK and quite balanced, until one day you just turn aggressive and unable to process other people's opinions. Anything that doesn't align to your mental mould to machine-cut precision immediately gets you on name calling and mocking mode. Seriously, I don't hate you or anything, but, are you suffering from some sort of bipolar disorder? I thought the relaxed Mexican life put a nice patch on your mental fragility?

Calling someone a "stunted freak" just for living in the UK and being generally against wild animal hunting, is quite a bit off. Especially when @Pixel--Dude has made very obvious in his posts here, that he doesn't like living in the UK and doesn't subscribe to the shitty nanny/police state it has become.

I may agree with you that hunting as human activity has its roots in the atavic need for man to challenge themselves by facing their fears, in the shape of a large, vicious wild animal, and overcoming them. But the OP isn't about having the balls of facing a wolf armed with just a knife. This is about a pseudo-sport where rich people kit up and shoot at wild animals, who already exist in tiny populations, from safe distance and with the sole goal of getting a thrill out of it.

Let's get that dentist of businessman face an angry elephant or tiger with their own bodies, perhaps armed with a simple knife or spear. That would carry a completely different meaning, both symbolic/ritualistic and practical.

I think what the issue is here is that Cornfed doesn't see the nuances of my argument. I've already stated that even though I don't contribute to industrial farming by choosing not to eat meat, I do not have any moral issue with people hunting animals for food. I also do not have an issue with pest control or environmental culls which can sometimes be necessary to restore the equilibrium. Yet Cornfed, in his emotional rampage said this:

You don't know what you haven't got. It is sad how disaffected from normal life the likes of you are. In rural NZ if you or someone on your behalf didn't kill things you would be overrun with rodents and possums. Of course people on your behalf are killing things so you can eat, but you live in a fantasy world where this is bad. You are a deformed freak person.

Some dickhead dentist going abroad and killing animals to mount their heads on the wall or just so he can put his foot on their head and take selfies is just f***ing shit. I hope these trophy hunters get kidnapped by Predators from the movie and get to experience the thrill of what it feels like to be hunted

I also take issue with the idea that animals should have some monetary value. If they don't then apparently it doesn't matter if they get wiped out. People with this kind of attitude are the cunts who kill elephants for their ivory and cut fins off of sharks etc all that inhumane shit done for profit.

[MarcosZeitola]

I think what the issue is here is that Cornfed doesn't see the nuances of my argument. I've already stated that even though I don't contribute to industrial farming by choosing not to eat meat, I do not have any moral issue with people hunting animals for food. I also do not have an issue with pest control or environmental culls which can sometimes be necessary to restore the equilibrium.

Isn't meat an important part of human diet? I mean I find a lot of the practices in industrial farming absolutely awful, don't get me wrong. But only hunting for our meat or buying organic products exclusively is super expensive. I understand your position from a moral perspective but it doesn't seem very practical or realistic for most people. And then there are things like milk and cheese which are, also, a product of industrial farming. The only option to fully be free of industrial farming is to adopt a vegan diet, which I've heard some not-so-positive things about.

[publicduende]

If they are killing the animals at an unsustainable rate so future generations won't get the same opportunity then of course that is bad and they are behaving like common boomers. I assume though that these are part of conservation-minded culls that would happen anyway and the hunters just provide additional funding, which is good. For example, in NZ, international hunters of Himalayan Tahr put money into the economy and provide a reason to keep a population of these animals alive that are threatened in their natural habitat and provide a cultural resource to locals, whereas they would otherwise likely be eradicated by the government. Everyone is a winner.

Again, I have nothing to object with your argument above. Regulated hunting is the best, if not only, way forward. If you want to hunt one specimen of wild animal, be prepared to put back into the economy what is required for two specimens of the same animal to be bred, grow up and thrive. I am not an expert here but I did hear that many hunting reserves have a hefty membership tag for precisely that reason: the local government compel them to ensure that the species is protected and the kill rate is never above their replacement rate in their natural habitat.

[MrMan]

Not if they plan to eat the meat or are hunting for an animal that is potentially dangerous or a serious nuisance (e.g. foxes that eat hens, lions that eat children.) Enjoying hunting doesn't make it wrong.

[Cornfed]

If you want to hunt one specimen of wild animal, be prepared to put back into the economy what is required for two specimens of the same animal to be bred, grow up and thrive.

Or in the NZ context it would be desirable if foreign rich tossers had to do that so that locals could have a free community resource. The good thing about NZ is that game animals proliferate like vermin.