My good reasons to leave France or avoid going there

[Spencer]

@yick On the contrary, if you believe in equality then you believe in the biggest falsehood-utopia ever invented. Even a child can see equality doesn't exist in real life. Also, maybe you did not notice that a lot of foreigners who go to the United Kingdom or Germany go there without any f***s given about integrating and that all they do is ghettoising themselves with people who come from... where they are from?

@Spencer Hello, thank you. I use a German pseudo because I prefer German culture (the one before the 1920s, not the ghost it has become since then). I will keep posting here, as it's one of the few places remaining on the web where it seems that there is no official Thought Brigade to hunt people who see there is problem with the global culture. So from what you quoted it seems Singapore is an other Anglo-america. Everywhere that the consumerist-equality-focus-on-career shit is imported it seems to make people miserable. Also I don't know for sure but from what I know Singapore is very urbanised no?

@Winston I know Alex Jone's channel, he says a lot of truths but I don't know it's not that much my kind of thought. Alt-right people tend to see the truth about sexual dynamics between men and women but somehow are blind to the effects of consumerism and technology. So yeah thankfully not all are hardcore Christians but a lot of "alt-right" people seem to not see the entire spectrum of problems.

About French culture vs American culture, I would say that was true until the 1950s and early 1960s when de Gaulle was still in power. After 1968 the trend of americanisation already going on switched to a kind of "aping and idealising" of American culture. I could say that a lot of modern French culture is basically US importation.

So now to talk about GMOs, until very recently we had none at all (or almost) but the insane CETA with Canada is basically allowing the importation of cheap poisoning food like the garbage you get in North America. A lot of French people have started to go to McDonald's and the like every week if not every day for some. We have still good food available but small businesses like butchers are closing one by one. I have known people who sometimes eat only chips and drink coke as a meal. And yeah, we definitely eat a lot of bread, but usually that bread comes from a bakery with traditional baking so no insane GMO and other poison in it. Most natural foods don't get you fat. It's all that mad fake fast-food garbage full of chemicals that does. And also, obviously, the very lack of any exercise with all that "Netflix and chill" stupid culture now.

Ok understand das germany before 1920 so much better place and you wise youngman oldsoul understand world in timeless way

lucky for happy aboard you come and chose make postings and so so hope wiseton invite more genuine truth aborders same you and shove out the lot of contankerus bitter old farts bored with aborder country stuck in bored with dullard job bored with life pension so come happy aboard only for ego argue complain one up for talk expert for egosake but pretend wanna help and so so same as dumwit liberal with falsity good intention but only loot destroy vandal

from you we know france same just another dirty no souless shithole even wiseton not know how so bad some europe country before your postings and please teach more on promise lands that wiseton visit 20 years ago so now is same then please do watching compeling video and photos to see magic experiences that change wiseton life and inspiration happy aboard movement threw bossman wiseton please tell us about all there

[yick]

@yick On the contrary, if you believe in equality then you believe in the biggest falsehood-utopia ever invented. Even a child can see equality doesn't exist in real life. Also, maybe you did not notice that a lot of foreigners who go to the United Kingdom or Germany go there without any f***s given about integrating and that all they do is ghettoising themselves with people who come from... where they are from?

Poland, which is why Brexit happened.

[Winston]

@Das verlorene Reich
Check out this French article about whether France is run by a deep state or not.

https://cyprustar.wordpress.com/2020/05 ... t-profond/

Btw wouldn't someone think your avatar represents Nazi Germany? The black iron cross was used on Nazi uniforms and planes right?

[Yohan]

Btw wouldn't someone think your avatar represents Nazi Germany? The black iron cross was used on Nazi uniforms and planes right?

No, you mistaken it with the Iron Cross, a former military decoration.
Nazi Iron Cross was looking like this one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Cros ... rkunde.JPG

However there is a direct relation to Prussia.

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This emblem itself has a different history. Just look at the date.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... –1918).svg

Look at the crown in the emblem and compare it with the original crown

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_of_Wilhelm_II

[Das verlorene Reich]

@Winston If by "presence of a deep State" we mean that "the State is controlled by unofficial forces" then I hardly see any country that does not have its own deep State. And well my avatar will undoubtedly be associated to the nazis by some ignorants, but the iron cross was used only as a medal during the nazi era. Tanks and planes had a Balkenkreuz (straight cross) and the flag had the swastika.

@Yohan Thank you for providing the links to Winston.

[Yohan]

Hi Yohan,
So the situation was unbearable in 1976 for you already? What were your motivations to leave if I may ask?

I missed your comment somehow, sorry for late reply.

I think we cannot compare Europe now with Europe when I was still a small child (born 1952) - after WWII daily life was a horror, just poverty in Austria, and luckily most Russian soldiers finally left back home 10 yearsl ater around 1956 after wide lootings and raping everything female between 8 and 80. Growing up in a poor family in a factory area I can say, nobody there among the adults who survived WWII were 'normal people' - they were psycho and broken after combats (men) and working in military factories (women) - you never knew if you survive bombing and combat up to 1945, if you will be alive next day... but postwar time was not so much better - I remember no water in winter, all frozen, no electricity (still gas lights and petroleum lamps), street violence, alcohol, bombed out houses, very limited food supply (often from US-Army cans, which US soldiers throw away) etc. My toy was a revolver (without spring) and my friend had a bayonett (both weapons were given to us by a young friendly Russian guard who found that in a destroyed house next to where I was living) - most clothes were rags, as female Russian soldiers were not ashamed to steal our children clothes. etc. etc. these women were the worst of all - but I do not hate anybody...it was a crazy time of human life without value.

Travel was seriously restricted. Europe was divided to West/East Iron Curtain, but even within Western countries, passport and visa was required, even for children in my case from Austria to Italy, only way to go was by train with a steam locomotive and long stop and search at the border...

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It became better around 1970, with plenty of jobs for young men like me, but girls - forget about it, they were the same as their mothers, just psycho....also met a lot of bad so-called friends,
I had nothing when I was 18, had only debts when I was 25....

If I compare my living standard of my past and now, I often cannot believe it....what a big difference...

I was working in a bank and later on in a travel agency, I had a good chance to save some money and also to visit most parts of Europe, also Turkey, Iran, India...

I had always the desire to leave Europe for good - not only because of women - and tried it out first time 1972 to Malaysia, but it did not work out so nice with the Chinese family I was living there, and made my second final trip to Japan 1976, with no return.

It was not so easy, as there was no internet, phone calls were very expensive, any airticket was a few months of salary, contacts took a long time, just writing letters, everywhere you go a long hassle about passport/visa/ money exchange (no ATMs etc. - but I did it.

About Japan, it was also a poor country when I arrived - USD 1,- was about yen 365,- but times are changing and now it is about USD 1,- for yen 105,- and US-citizens are complaining often how expensive Japan is for them.... LOL

It's now more than 40 years I left Europe. The situation is totally different now, as Europe has no borders and you can go to almost everywhere worldwide with EU-citizenship. Easy with money change... etc...

Of course, you cannot compare my situation at that time in Austria/Europe with the situation now, even not within EU-countries.

[Das verlorene Reich]

@Yohan No worries, I'm glad you answered, it was an interesting read as those kind of situations you lived through are things people rarely talk about. You can't indeed hate everyone, at least the Russian guard was one who showed all Russians were not monsters.

I see what you mean with psycho and crazy men and women. Though I didn't live any of that, I have inhereted a lot of familial drama because bad things happened during WW1 and so I have a whole family line of crazy women. Usually those things carry on from one generation to an other before someone somehow manages to "break the spell".

Yeah so I get your reasons were as you say far from what could motivate someone to leave Austria nowadays. Though with the fakewirus restrictions freedom of movement is being greatly compromised. It's good that you found a "safe harbour" in Japan, this is a country with a long history and you at least seem free from mass African migration (eventhough you have other problems).

[NPCslammer]

Hi,
So I already posted some long text about why I thought France and Germany were far from the healthy cultures one may think. This has in my opinion mostly to do with what those countries don't want you, the foreigner, to know about them, because it would compromise their touristic appeal.

I am French myself (don't trust the German pseudo) and since so many people seem to idealise France as the romantic place per excellence, I wanted to share some rant about why I want to leave that hell behind as soon as I can. And potentially to make some avoid the mistake of thinking there are opportunities for a healthy life there.

Without further adue, let me give you my main reasons for wanting to leave, and never come back again apart for seeing family and friends from time to time or just looking at people there as one may look at apes at the local zoo.

1. The Welfare state. Even if it has the benefit of getting yourself free care, it means the majority of French people are lazy jobless parasites. Strikes are very frequent because everyone wants to have its share of Daddy State's privileges.

2. The Police State. As a consequence of this, everything is ruled by the State, Police is everywhere to fine you for the dumbest thing (like having a rooster who wakes people up in the morning, not kidding) and there are way too many laws that smother you.

3. The americanisation. Here in France we import all the shitty concepts which have proven themselves to be tremendous errors in the US already, but we think it's cool and trendy. Be it consumerism, feminism, racism related fake issues or foreign policy (like bombing Syria).

4. The myth of French intellectualism. French people are ashamed of their culture. We have a long history and deep culture yet thanks to point 3 people are ashamed of their own country. Having a French flag at home gets you called a nazi freak. Most "intellectuals" are now actually marxist ideologues who write complete lies.

5. Multiculturalism and political correctness. As a result of point 4, it is considered natural to be vehemently anti-nationalist and allow the inflow of illegal Maghrebines and Subsaharians through open borders, which leads to what we call here "no go-zones" where you can't find any White anymore. And naturally you are not allowed to criticise any of this.

6. The myth of French romanticism. Sure Paris has beautiful monuments and romantic cafés for a date. But French women are on average very cold and pretentious (if they feel you are not the actor kind of rich guy), shallow and unstable thanks to feminism brought by point 3. Forget trying to have long term relationships and don't even dare thinking about mariage as she's only there for one night stands, which are yet difficult to get if you don't have perfect social skills.

7. French people are mentally ill. Not kidding there, we have the highest level of antidepressant and psychotropes use of all the European Union. Things like going to a therapist, spending years on drugs to at least be able to carry work and daily duties, getting abortions for women etc are very common. Not to mention that psychiatrists often release psychos and schizophrenes of asylums for lack of beds.

8. Social life is shallow. Because of point 5, you can never express your political views sincerly which means you have to basically always live pretending you are a socialist if you don't want to get socially ostracised. Things like personal discipline, wanting to get married and have children, being the owner of your car and home are laughed at by the average French who is all about getting easy girls, parading in a BMW which he loans and pretending to be a thug.

So, yes we have a long history and traditions, but we do not have access to them anymore, and believe me all the good food (French cooking is not a myth) and beautiful landscapes don't prevent you from wanting to flee that hell of a country.

Sounds like it’s too late for France. A lot of conservatives hated to see the flood of turd world trash move to France, knowing it would eventually bring the whole country down. But it sounds like France was already on its way down. The West is filled with degenerates and marxist idiots now. Pisslam will have its way with France, and they probably deserve it.

[ArchibaultNew]

It's all relative.

At least in the area of dating. My experience with France and Germany. Is that following:
American difficulty=9
German difficulty= 7
French Difficulty= 6-7

At the end of the day you have to take your chances and choose what will work for you.

[WanderingProtagonist]

Hi,
So I already posted some long text about why I thought France and Germany were far from the healthy cultures one may think. This has in my opinion mostly to do with what those countries don't want you, the foreigner, to know about them, because it would compromise their touristic appeal.

I am French myself (don't trust the German pseudo) and since so many people seem to idealise France as the romantic place per excellence, I wanted to share some rant about why I want to leave that hell behind as soon as I can. And potentially to make some avoid the mistake of thinking there are opportunities for a healthy life there.

Without further adue, let me give you my main reasons for wanting to leave, and never come back again apart for seeing family and friends from time to time or just looking at people there as one may look at apes at the local zoo.

1. The Welfare state. Even if it has the benefit of getting yourself free care, it means the majority of French people are lazy jobless parasites. Strikes are very frequent because everyone wants to have its share of Daddy State's privileges.

2. The Police State. As a consequence of this, everything is ruled by the State, Police is everywhere to fine you for the dumbest thing (like having a rooster who wakes people up in the morning, not kidding) and there are way too many laws that smother you.

3. The americanisation. Here in France we import all the shitty concepts which have proven themselves to be tremendous errors in the US already, but we think it's cool and trendy. Be it consumerism, feminism, racism related fake issues or foreign policy (like bombing Syria).

4. The myth of French intellectualism. French people are ashamed of their culture. We have a long history and deep culture yet thanks to point 3 people are ashamed of their own country. Having a French flag at home gets you called a nazi freak. Most "intellectuals" are now actually marxist ideologues who write complete lies.

5. Multiculturalism and political correctness. As a result of point 4, it is considered natural to be vehemently anti-nationalist and allow the inflow of illegal Maghrebines and Subsaharians through open borders, which leads to what we call here "no go-zones" where you can't find any White anymore. And naturally you are not allowed to criticise any of this.

6. The myth of French romanticism. Sure Paris has beautiful monuments and romantic cafés for a date. But French women are on average very cold and pretentious (if they feel you are not the actor kind of rich guy), shallow and unstable thanks to feminism brought by point 3. Forget trying to have long term relationships and don't even dare thinking about mariage as she's only there for one night stands, which are yet difficult to get if you don't have perfect social skills.

7. French people are mentally ill. Not kidding there, we have the highest level of antidepressant and psychotropes use of all the European Union. Things like going to a therapist, spending years on drugs to at least be able to carry work and daily duties, getting abortions for women etc are very common. Not to mention that psychiatrists often release psychos and schizophrenes of asylums for lack of beds.

8. Social life is shallow. Because of point 5, you can never express your political views sincerly which means you have to basically always live pretending you are a socialist if you don't want to get socially ostracised. Things like personal discipline, wanting to get married and have children, being the owner of your car and home are laughed at by the average French who is all about getting easy girls, parading in a BMW which he loans and pretending to be a thug.

So, yes we have a long history and traditions, but we do not have access to them anymore, and believe me all the good food (French cooking is not a myth) and beautiful landscapes don't prevent you from wanting to flee that hell of a country.

Sounds very similar to the United States in many ways... Damn I wish I could have gone to Europe back when I was 13 years old, now you'd have to be downright stupid to go over there. It's like traveling to America or the UK in 2022 vs traveling there in the golden years when the U.S. wasn't nowhere near as shitty as it is now.

[WanderingProtagonist]

@yick We don't seem to live in the same world my friend. I will start to say that I at least agree on a few things that you are saying though. Indeed Hungary isn't THE solution, and I'm not that dumb kind of guy who wants to get their for cheap pussies. Of course finding a wife is a goal, but for now I've acknowledged that there is a very low chance to find a wife nowadays and that's it. I am of the opinion that "wherever you go, live as people live there, don't make them the insult of wanting to find your culture in a foreign place" (there is a proverb with living among the Romans that says that). If I go to live there, first of all I'll travel there a few weeks to test out and learn the language (which I'm already doing) so that even before traveling I know how to be autonomous there. And you can say all you want about how fascist and corrupted it is, France is fascist and corrupted too, just that Hungarians are 98% whites or more while France has at least 20% muslims (of which some are white but you get it). France is a violent place too. I know people who got beaten up to coma near my own street. I was followed a few weeks ago by dealers in a stolen car because I started faster than them at the green light. I know what is safe and what isn't. I've for a long time been the kind of guy who rants but does nothing. Since last year I've decided that being a lazy coward is enough. And it works wonders for now. But it doesn't prevent me to want to leave a sinking ship.

An other point I agree on with you is that the state of our country here is the population's own fault. I've worked in factories with people from Congo and Senegal and even Morocco or Iraq or Algeria. At first I wondered how come they were that much racist towards whites (because a lot are). It's because you have to win their respect. Most white men don't deserve respect. They get trampled by their women, trampled by the state, trampled by other races who insult them, and they call for more. I tried to make friends and family become more "aware" of what's at play all around. They don't care. They don't want to get their head out of their ass. That said, they are so much the average here that I don't want to try to help anymore. They live in hell and think it's paradise. Good for them. I don't buy into their shit.

Now about what I disagree the most on, I think I read one of your posts somewhere with this "Pacific coast" delirium. If you equate meaningless friendships with psychopathic workaholics, consumerism, and useless technology with happiness then yeah go spend your life there. China will lead the world that seems certain indeed but all that technology and what you call "prosperity" is totally unnatural. Plus it depends entirely on electricity which is f***ing unreliable and could be swept away by a major solar storm or whatever. That fake system will collapse sooner than later. Technology is cancer for both the mind and the body. What's best about the idiots that rule over us is that their superiority complex makes them blind. They think they will be able to create super-humans who live forever thanks to technology. That's at best foolish. They are even working against their own interests in the end. But greed has no limits. And these little cowards can't accept they will end up as dead bodies like everyone else they despise so much. About Africa having a future, there too you made me have a good laugh. The thing isn't about changing the balance with Africa being above Europe. No, the plan is about turning the US and EU into third world shitholes (we are close to the goal) that won't disturb the order. Asia is allowed to economically dominate because people in China are now for the most parts soulless slaves thanks to communism and technology and the Western influence. See unlike what you seem to think, obedience to a corrupted system isn't a sign of prosperity and intelligence. It's a sign of deep weakness. I have more respect for the migrant thugs who broke the fakewirus idiotic rules rather than for the white cowards who stood home to "not contaminate the elderly". Seriously wake up. The state (wherever the f**k you are) is a parasite. It doesn't like you. It doesn't care about you. If it feels like sending you to war or sending you by force to hospital it will do so.

Damn this post is old, but after read it damn. I have a lot of respect for what you just said because it's all accurate and true.

[Mew6ix]

Americanization is taking over the globe. Those French chicks weren't like this ten years ago. They have gotten far worse.

[OutcastedPhilosopher]

Americanization is taking over the globe. Those French chicks weren't like this ten years ago. They have gotten far worse.

The French chicks in the USA that I meant were rather disgusting and really bought into the American way. I know one that got married to a POS guy that I knew. She was a mudshark which was quite disgusting really.

[WanderingProtagonist]

Americanization is taking over the globe. Those French chicks weren't like this ten years ago. They have gotten far worse.

The French chicks in the USA that I meant were rather disgusting and really bought into the American way. I know one that got married to a POS guy that I knew. She was a mudshark which was quite disgusting really.

You know me being black myself and everything, I can never mess around with White Americans or even European women. They do all that mudsharking stuff for fetish reasons. But I can guarantee you that if white males disappeared entirely and they were left with nothing but black males. They would be crying about it. Black men will only f**k them, but they aren't going to build society in a way to make it comfortable and easy for their asses. They won't even do that for black women instead they abandon them so they get stuck on their own. Some will stick around but for the most part 89% of the black men in this world don't care about making life easy or comfortable for anyone, not even for themselves. That's why you have entire places like Chicago with black Mayors and the blacks outnumbering everyone else.

Yet they still live like hell. If you took them and put them in suburban neighborhoods where they can live in nicer communities they will simply bring the hood right to the suburbs and transform it into another ghetto. Especially if you brought a bunch of them into one area and housed them there. All those low income neighborhoods in the U.S. weren't always shitty looking, they became that way because a lot of the people created those conditions within their communities. You have to wonder why in a country like America why are there so many gangs of all ethicities including Asian ones. Asians don't need gangs, but when they move here to the States, some of those young men form gangs just because they see everybody else doing it. The difference however, the Latino and Black gangs are going to make life hell for you since they outnumber everyone else.

[OutcastedPhilosopher]

Americanization is taking over the globe. Those French chicks weren't like this ten years ago. They have gotten far worse.

The French chicks in the USA that I meant were rather disgusting and really bought into the American way. I know one that got married to a POS guy that I knew. She was a mudshark which was quite disgusting really.

You know me being black myself and everything, I can never mess around with White Americans or even European women. They do all that mudsharking stuff for fetish reasons. But I can guarantee you that if white males disappeared entirely and they were left with nothing but black males. They would be crying about it. Black men will only f**k them, but they aren't going to build society in a way to make it comfortable and easy for their asses. They won't even do that for black women instead they abandon them so they get stuck on their own. Some will stick around but for the most part 89% of the black men in this world don't care about making life easy or comfortable for anyone, not even for themselves. That's why you have entire places like Chicago with black Mayors and the blacks outnumbering everyone else.

Yet they still live like hell. If you took them and put them in suburban neighborhoods where they can live in nicer communities they will simply bring the hood right to the suburbs and transform it into another ghetto. Especially if you brought a bunch of them into one area and housed them there. All those low income neighborhoods in the U.S. weren't always shitty looking, they became that way because a lot of the people created those conditions within their communities. You have to wonder why in a country like America why are there so many gangs of all ethicities including Asian ones. Asians don't need gangs, but when they move here to the States, some of those young men form gangs just because they see everybody else doing it. The difference however, the Latino and Black gangs are going to make life hell for your ass since they outnumber everyone else.

Well, you said it better than I could and you are black lol. You must be a rare breed to be able to say that because most of the time all I hear is how everybody is holding the black man down and being racist and stuff.

Yeah, it seems like there is a minority of white women that are just straight up mudsharks and ghetto for whatever reason....the ones I have met are typically not right in the mind, fatties, or they just get run through by everyone and don't care who bangs them out. I do know a few in particular that it seemed to just be a fetish thing but these were trashy types with tats and a very promiscuous demeanor in that they would screw any dude who had something going for him like having a car lol. In a lot of cases it seems no white guy wants them and so they go with the black dudes or if the black dude is an athlete with a lot of money that attracts the most vicious white women who will later on divorce them once they get injured or the career is over and the money isn't coming in. A lot of these dudes get played out by these women which is sad on one hand but on the other hand they think they won and hold it over on everyone else that they got a white chick only to later on get massively screwed. I think Michael Strahans wife divorced him and she gets like 50,000 a month or something ridiculous and this guy has to work as an announcer on NFL Fox LOL.....a lot of these guys have to declare bankruptcy and everything. I think one of the biggest ones was Tiger Woods and his wife the nordic model....I think she got a settlement of like 100 million dollars. I think Terrell Owens had to declare bankruptcy because he had like 4 kids with 4 women and couldn't afford the child support payments lol. Imagine making millions of dollars and having it gobbled up by all these women. These guys really aren't all that bright.