Should Winston get plastic surgery?

[Banano]

What do you think folks,

Lets be honest, Right now Winnie is 2-3 out of 10 on a beauty scale, (I think I was generous), You see the problem here,
with such a low score you cant do much in dating world, women(especially white women in the west) want to date up by 2-4 points, that means you can only date women who are 1 to -2 on a scale.



I thought plastic surgery would be beneficial for someone like Winston, imo you could get up to 5 if you find a good doc and invest some money.


- first he needs to pump out fat out of head and body, fix his beer belly by liposuction as I can see winston doing sittups,

- needs to get his head/shoulders in right proportions..either make head smaller or make his shoulders broader

- maybe lip job, (not urgent but it would be nice to see big red set of lips, chicks love it)

- moustache+beard implants to make him look like Asian gigolo





any suggestions

[Renata]

I think he should clean out his Kitchen and Fridge of all frozen & processed foods, snacks, sugar, dairy and bread.
Anything that carries an Expiration date I don't consider edible or good for my body. Food should be perishable & natural. He should only shop for fresh fruits, vegetables, beans, nuts, herbs, spices, grapeseed/coconut/olive oil, fish, seafoods and chicken.
It's the food that people eat that makes them fat, sluggish and unhealthy.

He should start juicing vegetables & adding pieces of fruit to sweeten the juices & smoothies when hungary between meals. Snack on nuts, cucumbers, carrots, certain fruits. Make stir fry vegetables with meat; quick delicious meal. After awhile all cravings for potato chips & sweets will stop. Tastebuds will change and all the good real food your body gets will satisfy it, because you will be fulling and replenishing it with vitamins, nutirents, mineral & antioxidants. Drink lots of water. Do a detox twice a month. Stay active, ... eating healthy increses your energy level by 100%, this will give you the drive you need to exercise or do whatever you like; swimming, biking, dancing etc. You will drop the weight ! Then lifting weights will be a pleasure to do. it's all a process, an easy process. Always eat well, & make the food taste great with herbs & spices & meat. Don't diet, eat well.

Aren't you guys afraid of surgery, it's so drastic and painful, and unecessary.

[Rock]

What do you think folks,

Lets be honest, Right now Winnie is 2-3 out of 10 on a beauty scale, (I think I was generous), You see the problem here,
with such a low score you cant do much in dating world, women(especially white women in the west) want to date up by 2-4 points, that means you can only date women who are 1 to -2 on a scale.



I thought plastic surgery would be beneficial for someone like Winston, imo you could get up to 5 if you find a good doc and invest some money.


- first he needs to pump out fat out of head and body, fix his beer belly by liposuction as I can see winston doing sittups,

- needs to get his head/shoulders in right proportions..either make head smaller or make his shoulders broader

- maybe lip job, (not urgent but it would be nice to see big red set of lips, chicks love it)

- moustache+beard implants to make him look like Asian gigolo





any suggestions

No, no, no. And this is coming from someone who has seen him face-to-face in 3D.

Look at his photos in youth and look at him now. He would go a long way towards looking his young self if he just did the following:

1. Get his hormones back to his youthful baseline - build lean body while massively reducing fat with an intense program such as P90X or certain other comprehensive resistance/cardio/yoga programs which include an effective diet regime. Just 1-2 cycles of P90X (90-180 days) would mold him into a completely new man physically.

His proportionally big head is partially an illusion. Skull size does not expand after you reach adulthood yet his looked much smaller when he was 20. Sure, there is a fat layer in your scalp which can thicken when u gain weight. So his high body fat relative to his 20 year old self may be a factor in making his head look larger. But I believe the bulk of this due to heaviness in his lower face - neck and jawline which lengthens and squares the face. This can create a blockhead effect and make the head somehow look bigger.

Losing some 10-15 kgs of fat would slim down his face dramatically. He still has good skin elasticity so I believe his facial skin would shrink down nicely if a lot of that fat in his face was lost. The jawline of his youth would start to re-emerge, his face would shorten, and taper at the lower third. His protruding gut would disappear. His apparent age would likely drop by a good 10 years as long as the elastin in his skin is as good as I think it is. He would look at least as good facially as he did in early days of Russia and better bodywise.

2. This is icing on the cake. But if he could find a dermatologist good enough to come up with a way to reduce his acne, oil, and rosacea in tropical climates, he would look even better.

I'm not against cosmetic surgery for those who can benefit from it. Heck, a significant proportion of young S. Korean women do it and many look noticeably better. I even know a young Taiwanese girl who had combination orthognatic and cosmetic surgery like 7 months ago and now she has gone up a solid 1 or maybe even 2 points on the 1-10 looks scale IMO. But Winston would not benefit from anything cosmetic as this stage. And lipo could mess up his body. He needs to do it the healthy and natural way.

[Rock]

I think he should clean out his Kitchen and Fridge of all frozen & processed foods, snacks, sugar, dairy and bread.
Anything that carries an Expiration date I don't consider edible or good for my body. Food should be perishable & natural. He should only shop for fresh fruits, vegetables, beans, nuts, herbs, spices, grapeseed/coconut/olive oil, fish, seafoods and chicken.
It's the food that people eat that makes them fat, sluggish and unhealthy.

He should start juicing vegetables & adding pieces of fruit to sweeten the juices & smoothies when hungary between meals. Snack on nuts, cucumbers, carrots, certain fruits. Make stir fry vegetables with meat; quick delicious meal. After awhile all cravings for potato chips & sweets will stop. Tastebuds will change and all the good real food your body gets will satisfy it, because you will be fulling and replenishing it with vitamins, nutirents, mineral & antioxidants. Drink lots of water. Do a detox twice a month. Stay active, ... eating healthy increses your energy level by 100%, this will give you the drive you need to exercise or do whatever you like; swimming, biking, dancing etc. You will drop the weight ! Then lifting weights will be a pleasure to do. it's all a process, an easy process. Always eat well, & make the food taste great with herbs & spices & meat. Don't diet, eat well.

Aren't you guys afraid of surgery, it's so drastic and painful, and unecessary.

Here here! Guys, when it comes to looking good to the opposite sex, take advice from young women, esp. attractive and stylish ones, lol.

But, no reason to be afraid of certain types sufficiently low risk cosmetic procedures (surgery) if u can benefit a lot from them. Many would argue that it is necessary if improving your prospects with the opposite sex, career, and life in general are important to you. A lot of things in life involve some temporary physical pain so why should u let that deter you? Would u forgo having children just to avoid the extreme pain of childbirth? Having children is important to many women just as looking as good as possible is important to many people in general.

[eurobrat]

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[Intolerant]

He doesn't need plastic surgery. He just needs to lose weight, more dieting and exercise.





See how more youthful this middle-aged man looks after losing weight?

[Renata]

I think he should clean out his Kitchen and Fridge of all frozen & processed foods, snacks, sugar, dairy and bread.
Anything that carries an Expiration date I don't consider edible or good for my body. Food should be perishable & natural. He should only shop for fresh fruits, vegetables, beans, nuts, herbs, spices, grapeseed/coconut/olive oil, fish, seafoods and chicken.
It's the food that people eat that makes them fat, sluggish and unhealthy.

He should start juicing vegetables & adding pieces of fruit to sweeten the juices & smoothies when hungary between meals. Snack on nuts, cucumbers, carrots, certain fruits. Make stir fry vegetables with meat; quick delicious meal. After awhile all cravings for potato chips & sweets will stop. Tastebuds will change and all the good real food your body gets will satisfy it, because you will be fulling and replenishing it with vitamins, nutirents, mineral & antioxidants. Drink lots of water. Do a detox twice a month. Stay active, ... eating healthy increses your energy level by 100%, this will give you the drive you need to exercise or do whatever you like; swimming, biking, dancing etc. You will drop the weight ! Then lifting weights will be a pleasure to do. it's all a process, an easy process. Always eat well, & make the food taste great with herbs & spices & meat. Don't diet, eat well.

Aren't you guys afraid of surgery, it's so drastic and painful, and unecessary.

Here here! Guys, when it comes to looking good to the opposite sex, take advice from young women, esp. attractive and stylish ones, lol.

But, no reason to be afraid of certain types sufficiently low risk cosmetic procedures (surgery) if u can benefit a lot from them. Many would argue that it is necessary if improving your prospects with the opposite sex, career, and life in general are important to you. A lot of things in life involve some temporary physical pain so why should u let that deter you? Would u forgo having children just to avoid the extreme pain of childbirth? Having children is important to many women just as looking as good as possible is important to many people in general.

Childbirth is natural ... a bit scary but lots of women have done it for 100's of years so that's ok with me
Eating healthy isn't very hard, everything you need to know you can find online ... it helps you to loose fat the good way & repairs your body too & flushes toxins...

here's one of my favourite channels > http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... bSUWtEhYMg

[Renata]

Intolerant that couple even looks 10 yrs younger

[Banano]

we know Winston too well, he wont start excercising and eating healthy, even if he does start it will take years to achieve something that can be achieved in a few visits

after that its just matter of maintanance, making sure he doesnt get fat again

I know women in Colombia get belly/love handles fat sucked out and pumped back into their asses to to get that J Lo bum, Im not sure if Winston should go to such extremes but you get the idea

[Andrewww]

Plastic surgery is the easy way. If you don't change your lifestyle that extra fat you just lost will come back.

I think he should hit a gym, no need for a personal trainer, just socialize with the guys, ask them to show you how they do it and what kind of program they're following.

Next step is to eat healthy like Renata mentioned but even if you eat fast food daily going to a gym will still help a lot.

Last step I'd say is to join a dance club, if you work out on Monday, Wednesday and Friday for example and you hit the dance floor on Tuesday and Thursday you have a 5 day workout that doesn't involve steroids lol. In the week-end you take a break and relax.

[celery2010]

Winston actually needs more than just fitness. He needs to grow his hair out and needs a better wardobe/ style makeover also.

If Winston had a long lost Taiwanese twin brother, who was in shape, had an interesting personality, had a decent haircut and style, he could be as high as a 7 or so.

b]Winston’s Twin Brother:[/b]






Reposting this here:

Winston said: Again: As long as you look DECENT and dress DECENT, it doesn't really matter what your "fashion style" is. Grow up guys!

Even for Ben Affleck, it makes a big difference. Seen his pics for his latest film Argo?



This guy looks MUCH better after than before:


Another Hollywood celebrity who is not immune:


Older gentleman


See it makes a big difference.

I dare you to take that picture of you when you were 20 and go ask 10 women whether you look better in the pic or now?




I'd be very surprised if the women still said you look better with short hair.



Although you don't seem to fall for stupid lies from salesmen, you seem to fall for them real easy from women. You can't seem to tell when they are fibbing and telling the truth!


It's like asking if an outfit looks good at a department store! Of course they will tell you it looks good. They want to make money!



I'm telling you, look at the 2 pictures of Belinda Carlisle. Which woman would you rather date? Would you say yes to Belinda with short hair? .

And these are pics of a beautiful woman!

[celery2010]

These are 2 pictures of Jared Leto.






You're telling me there's no difference?

[CerealKiller]

While I can understand the rationale behind this thread, I feel that even asking if Winston should get plastic surgery is - hear me out here - heading totally in the wrong direction.

Guys - and especially those of you who are Asia like me - let's think about this for a second. How many ugly old fart-young hottie couples have we all seen in Asia? Tons. And while the old dude in that equation likely chose the girl for her looks, it's obvious that the pretty young girl's selection criteria were rather different.

There are so many things that Winston could work on to improve his chances, and while looks might be one of them, it's unlikely to be the most important.

Sorry to shake things up. Comments/opinions are welcome

[Intolerant]

Either he's leaving for China or he's staying in Taiwan for the rest of his life feeling miserable all day. The fact of the matter is, most young Taiwanese girls do not an 'uncle' or a 'taxi driver'. He can do whatever he wants, but unless if he changes his eating habits or moves somewhere else, his chances are 0%.

Having plastic surgery would really be at the extreme end of things.

[Billy]

let´s don´t take tough measures. let´s begin with a six pack. aferwards we can paint a 8 pack. it won´t hurt. i am counting on the placebo effect.

the real problem is the energy level. winnie has projects where he has to focus. i find it hard to be body focused and intelectually at the same time. it´s only life. it will go away.