I was a GOD in The Philippines!

[Will N. Dowd]

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[kai1275]

I've been telling people this in my posts for over 2 years yet people like publicduente and Davewe continue to deny it. It's very obvious to anyone who looks objectively around them in Phils, whether it be in the province, a second tier city like Davao, or even Metro Manila or Cebu.

Why pull me into this? I certainly never said every Pinay was beautiful - just that they are out there and are often available. Hell, even you found one you liked

Will's issue isn't unusual. He goes to PI on vacation, bangs 14 girls in 2 or 3 weeks, is ecstatic, sells his possessions and works to move to PI. He determined to return and break every record in the book. He moves there and is no longer in vacation mode - he lives there. Suddenly reality hits. Every girl isn't hot. Every girl isn't easy. Some girls flake. Some girls want to bring their friends or lola on the date. Some girls are scared. And some girls are not ready to jump into bed right away.

So suddenly the issue is that he has "good taste". I don't think so. I know Will a bit outside of HA and I think he is a good guy. But his methodology is flawed. You can't go anywhere, meet an unlimited amount of hot and willing girls and have the vacation go on forever. He's been back in PI for less than a month, banged 6 or so girls and is disappointed.

This is a weird analogy, but really this is like what many retirees experience. A guys goes to a wonderful tropical paradise for vacation. He plays golf everyday. He loves it and decides to retire and play golf every day. He does. Quickly he is bored. He comes to hate the golf courses; he comes to hate golf itself. The problem isn't the courses or golf. It's his plan. He needs more to fill his life than just golf. So does Will.

Will - I am not suggesting that you get married or find the one or anything like that. Clearly that's not your thing. But you need some other reason to go to a country other than how many girls you can lay. Find some other interests whether in PI or elsewhere. When you have other interests, then the girls will add to your life - they wont be your whole life.

This is one of the best posts I have ever read here on HA. That was beyond DEEP. Wow!

[kai1275]

Weren't you the one who was crediting the beauty of mixed race Pinays to the Pinay factor? Actually, it's the other way around. The more Pinay blood, the less attractive on average, all else equal.

Will N. Dowd is just discovering the hard way what I warned about over and over. So apparently the discussion has not been exhaustive or clear enough! Since he's a man who cares about physical aspects of women he dates, he would have been much better off in a place like Thailand or one of the Stans or perhaps Latam/Carribean.

BTW, duente, I was chatting with Winston on Viber the other day and somehow I brought you up. I found it funny that he has no clue who you are. Yes, he doesn't even know publicduente exists lol. And you are one of the core albeit sometimes more controversial posters here with over 1,000 solid posts. How can that be?

Oh OK, I vaguely remember (and can't be bothered digging it out, sorry) a discussion where some of you, probably including you, were slamming the Pinay, or Malaysian/Polinesian gene pool, in favour of the white/Western one. I think I also added the only scientific fact there is on the matter: a better gene mix almost always something good for an individual, on anything from physical appearance to immune system strength. It is common knowledge that mixed race people are very often beautiful/handsome, one or two notches more attractive than their parents taken individually. Same applies to Filipinos and Filipinas, who are an ethnically diverse group anyway, their native pool having being hit by Chinese, Japanese, Spaniards and Latin Americans, and North Americans more recently (and even Canadians, if Will N. Dowd were to take that condom off )

I don't see any ground to being crypto-racist by assuming Western (Caucasian?) genes are always the better half in a mixed Pinay. For what I know famous actresses Alessandra and Assunta De Rossi had an Italian dad from my region, and as you can judge from some of the photos at the below URL, neither their parents is particularly attractive.

http://www.pep.ph/photos/438/assunta-an ... i-in-italy

If some of you don't like the Pinay side of a half-Pinay beause you don't like Malaysian or Polynesan features like small eyes, tanned skin, slender bodies, well that' quite subjective.

And by the way, wasn't Janine Tugonon (runner-up for Miss Universe 2012) critically acclaimed precisely because she was a much better model of what "true Filipino beauty" (eg. without having too much Western blood)?

f***ing absurd! You ARE a controversial guy here. For this kind of shit exactly! Look at her parents! Her FATHER is handsome. She looks just like him. You can tell dude is tall with nice shoulders and was probably a knockout when he was in his 20s. You have a lack of attention to serious details. That is what Rock was alluding to. Good looks are not going to improve just from being mixed. That is just silly and subjective. Genes play the most in that role, followed by environment, stress, diet and toxicity. Not from just being mixed. What bollocks!

[Halwick]

Will, before you go to Thailand, be sure to check into http://stickmanbangkok.com/

I'm sure you're aware of that website. Lots of insights into Thailand, the culture and women through Stickman's "Weekly Columns" and the "Readers' Submissions."

As davewe wisely suggested, "....Find some other interests whether in PI or elsewhere. When you have other interests, then the girls will add to your life - they wont be your whole life..."

Perhaps you'll find something interesting to do in Thailand, and the women will come.

[CerealKiller]

Will N. Dowd is just discovering the hard way what I warned about over and over. So apparently the discussion has not been exhaustive or clear enough! Since he's a man who cares about physical aspects of women he dates, he would have been much better off in a place like Thailand or one of the Stans or perhaps Latam/Carribean.

BTW, duente, I was chatting with Winston on Viber the other day and somehow I brought you up. I found it funny that he has no clue who you are. Yes, he doesn't even know publicduente exists lol. And you are one of the core albeit sometimes more controversial posters here with over 1,000 solid posts. How can that be?

This is fast becoming a classic HA Philippines thread. I don't want to disturb your guys' love-in here, but I'd like to address a couple things. Rock, you are an HA heavyweight, and I agree with most of your posts on here. That's pretty amazing considering the sheer volume of said posts and the fact that we likely live rather different lives. However, do you seriously believe that Will 'cares about' how these girls look? Really? You might want to reread his posts; surely you've figured out the nature of Will's fishing stories by now. (Turning 1's and 2's down for sex when he's totally sober does not mean he's a man with high standards.) Again, you are a solid poster so I was a bit surprised to see that.

Physical attractiveness of filipinas: I couldn't agree with you more, Rock. My guess is that you might have better eyes for asian girls than the average poster here. If it isn't already perfectly obvious to everyone reading this: these guys go to the Philippines because the girls are easy and sleazy, not because they're super hot. Nothing wrong with that, but it should be mentioned. Yes, there will be the occasional attractive girl here and there - but hey, there are probably hot girls in Kansas, too. (Take a gander at this year's miss kansas)

As for Will being better off in Thailand: I couldn't disagree more. Not only would he crash and burn even worse, he'll soon find out that unlike the Philippines, girls in Thailand don't act like a female version of your average high school football jock when it comes to giving and receiving casual sex.

The Philippines is unique in that it combines American-level coed promiscuity with rampant poverty and desperation; viewing Americans as saviors who are next to Jesus; daily news stories of grisly revenge killings enacted over the pettiest of grievances (eg. getting murdered at a funeral over a simple dice game dispute); a national inferiority complex deeper than the Mariana Trench.... oh, and totally over-the-top idolization of the white man.

Translation: Will has pretty much every possible advantage you could dream of, and look how he's done in the Philippines. Need I say more?



PS: It's good to be back on HA. Keep the posts coming, gentlemen.

[publicduende]

f***ing absurd! You ARE a controversial guy here. For this kind of shit exactly! Look at her parents! Her FATHER is handsome. She looks just like him. You can tell dude is tall with nice shoulders and was probably a knockout when he was in his 20s. You have a lack of attention to serious details. That is what Rock was alluding to. Good looks are not going to improve just from being mixed. That is just silly and subjective. Genes play the most in that role, followed by environment, stress, diet and toxicity. Not from just being mixed. What bollocks!

Kai, if there's somebody here who jumped into this forum in a storm and believes he is going to be The Voice of Truth every single time, that's surely not me. Is this the pic you're talking about?



If you say I have a lack of attention to "serious details" if a man who is quite plain for me is handsome for you, that's entirely subjective and I don't feel like disputing it. If anything, that dude Luigi Schiavone is from my region and I can tell you we have tens of thousands of men like him over here. But hey, you're obviously the next best thing since sliced bread on this forum and, sure enough, you must be right LOL

What is an undisputable scientific fact, which is what I was referring to, is that mixed race offspring tends to be in the majority of cases better looking and healthier than their parents. A case of the whole being better of the sum of its parts. Why do you think you can find so many gorgeous girls and handsome studs from Brazil, if not because of the heavy gene mixing that includes native populations, African/Caribbeans, Portuguese, Italians and heaven knows what else? That's how it is, good looks can be improved just by having a more diverse gene mix. It's anything but subjective, it's a law of biology, the dual of the fact that very close relatives (brother and sister or cousins) have a high chance to produce defective offspring.

You say "genes play the most in that role...not just from being mixed". Now you're being silly. Doesn't being mixed race mean having a mixed gene pool, so genes indeed play the most? Aren't you saying the same thing as me?

Let me tell you why I am "controversial" in a place like this. I am perhaps a few years older than most of you on here, have been living in rather cosmopolitan places (like London and Singapore) long enough and travelled enough to take most of the racial/sexist stereotypes that buzz around here all the time with the due pinch of salt. I don't like generalisations, especially when clearly made out of a jaded, disillusioned or frustrated mind. Of course this is a public forum and everybody is entitled to their opinions, however partial and incomplete they might be. That doesn't mean I agree with them, though. And sometimes I like to be vocal about that disagreement, like in this particular case.

[Will N. Dowd]

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[Mr S]

You up to try something different in Davao? Hang out at this place in Davao:
http://davao.grandregalhotels.com/

You can also stay here but it may be over your budget. Hang around the casino in the evenings and see what kind of women are there.

Also down the road around the McDonalds there is a university and some schools. A lot of uni girls eat at the McDonalds. If you are into approaches you can hang around there and try your luck. I've gotten a bunch of smiles and looks there before.

Usually girls that work in the casino's are very good looking and have to be young in their 20's. They also have to know decent English and will be used to dealing with different types of foreigners. Also the Filipinas that visit there may not be so standoffish. You can play some of the lower cost slots if your not a gambler and scope the scene. You'll be surprised who hangs around these places.

You've done the mall thing and internet enough, try something different and see what happens.

[Rock]

I met Will N. Dowd for a couple days in Davao. It was interesting to hang-out with him.

- Will is mild mannered and polite, no nonsense, practically oriented, straightforward, direct, honest, focused, with common sense kinda guy. At about 6'1", he's quite tall by Davao standards but he's also very slim, clean cut, and does not have tatoos. So his look is neutral from western POV, not intimidating or threatening. His mission in Davao is to seek out and score with local girls he finds at least somewhat attractive and doesn’t really try to hide that fact.

- Living alone in Davao with no western or middle class local friends, Will is pretty much on his own, a real loner. I would suggest that anyone who engages in such a lifestyle abroad should take at least 2 extended breaks from it per year back home or in a place where equal peers can be found to interact with. Otherwise, the isolation could take its toll over time.

- He has a lot of good tips and methods for surviving well with a low budget as an expat. He cooks his own healthy food, pays under 10K Pesos for big room with kitchen including utilities and Internet, uses an umbrella to avoid sun (first time I’ve ever seen a guy do this lol), rides jeepneys and shared trikes, and has managed his career and assets well.

- Some of his stories are like a comedy of errors. Out of some 10,000 interests (just Filipinas are on that site anyway?) how many he’s received on DIA, he’s only gotten what he wanted with a handful of girls. Philippines can be tough, especially when u stay in a relatively conservative town like Davao. He showed me a long list of random numbers on his phone (already girls who gave their numbers) and almost all of them were dead leads. Girls there do all kinds of bizzare things – meet u in mall and then text that they see u but are scared so that it might take 30 minutes or more for them to finally let u find them, bring their mom/dad/aunt/uncle/cousin/dog/all-of-the-above and expect u to entertain and treat them, come with a friend and spend almost all the time speaking to them in Visayan while ignoring you, ask for travel money and/or load. It’s really one big numbers game which takes a huge amount of persistence and patience.

- From my POV, he does not focus much on quality even though he does have some standards. Most of the gals I saw him go for were the small cute types, If the 8 or so girls he’s been with, I only found 2 of them to be physically attractive based on what I saw in photos. Then there is the personality and compatibility factor to consider which most probably don’t do well on. I found that he tends to go for the low lying fruit. Most regular girls in Davao don’t really seem to pay much attention to the guy on the prowl, even if he’s white. Sure you get a lot of attention from bored sales ladies in certain sections of certain malls. But they are at best cute. More middle class looking types out and about in the mall mostly ignore you and ditto for the girls from the medical college across the street from where I stayed. Instead of trying to game these more difficult girls, Will N. Dowd seems to go for sales girls who are attached to a certain location and have to be somewhat friendly as part of their job. Thing is, there are occasional more attractive girls in certain unis and walking around the malls who look more respectable. But the cream of Davao still does not compare with the top tier you see in Metro Manila or even Cebu. From my POV, a solid 7 in Davao is pretty uncommon. I did see one from the medical school in my hotel’s café. But she turned out to be Indian lol.

- Perhaps my attitude about his methods influenced him a bit. On the second day on his way to my hotel, he told me he approached a regular girl on the jeepney ride over as per his report. Perhaps he is with her right now as I write this lol. I never saw here but she sounds nice at 5’6â€￾, 18, and no children.

- We met another resident foreigner in supermarket and chatted with him. He’s married to a local from Cagayan de Oro (Phil Air flight attendant) and has lived in Metro Manila, Cebu, Cagyan de Oro, and Davao. He confirmed that Davao is the most reserved and difficult of those cities for white guys who wanna casually date local girls. Cebu or Metro Man might be best for that and even Cagayan de Oro might be much better according to him.

- Still, Davao has some great positives as a place to stay. It’s really quite safe I think because of the harsh treatment snatchers, drug users, and other criminals get there. Mayor has a very powerful reputation and there is a culture of crime avoidance and perhaps even vigilante justice. There is very little in the way of nightlife which has it’s good side. People tend to be very polite and accommodating. Prices for good rooms are very cheap compared to other parts of Phils I’ve visited (I paid 600 Pesos for big and modern A/C room with en-suite bathroom, Wifi, TV in an excellent location steps from Gaisano Mall). I don’t think I ever saw any girls smoking there even though its common in other parts of Phils (no stigma yet like in most of Asia). Taxis normally give change to the last Peso without being asked. And you seem to encounter less begging and other annoyances.

- So Davao is not the best base for a guy like Will with his sort of MO. But Davao might be a great place to settle with a family or steady girlfriend. The infrastructure is decent enough with some big box malls and a new SM. But they don’t have 7-11s or other chain convenience stores the way Metro Manila, Cebu, and Angeles do.

[Devil Dog]

^ Excellent post.

[Will N. Dowd]

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[publicduende]

Another disastrous day here in Davao City.

Had a new DIA girl flake on me after she said she was coming to my apartment. I did meet up with her later at the mall, and it turns out she is friends with the 16 year old girl that keeps texting me. This girl actually had to be brought over to be introduced to me by the 16 year old, even though she was 19! The cute 19 year old is more shy than the 16 year old, at least this time. They both split when I said I was waiting for another girl.

Then I finally met the 18 year old girl I hit on from the jeepney. She was an hour late, and even though I was waiting outside the mall for her, she went in and texted me to come meet her inside. She said she was coming alone, but tricked me of course and brought her cute but even more shy sister. She said meet her at 6 pm, but she finally showed up at 7, and I was hungry but it turns out she had already eaten. She was browsing a bookstore while I was talking to her, and was distant and shy, and then when I stopped asking her questions, she actually asked me if I was OK, even though she was semi ignoring me. I said I'm going to go get something to eat, see you later, and split. She then texted me and said it was nice to see me. I said when you are able to meet me alone text me. I then said I was horny for her and that I couldn't help but like the body and face nature had given her because I'm a guy. No response yet to that...I doubt I'll hear from her again, but you never know. When I had previously ignored her she has phoned me. This girl was an hour late, brought her sister, and was essentially reading books while I was trying to talk with her. Fun times.

I then went to another mall to pick up my laptop that was repaired, and after eating went to visit a mall department girl I had taken to dinner before. The store was almost closed so she and 3 co workers said please wait for them outside the mall. I did and they showed up and said they all wanted to go to dinner with me, my treat of course. My prize for buying 4 girls dinner? A kiss on the cheek from the cute one. I said sorry, I've already eaten. Then I compared cell phones with one of them and she had the nerve to ask if I could give it her mine as a goodbye present when I leave! I laughed and said see you later.

The hot promo girl I banged finally messaged me after I had ignored her for a few days and wants to meet up when she is free next. Ignoring girls here almost always works and after a few days or even hours they get desperate and message me wondering whats up. I had 2 girls message me yesterday, but they are old news and time wasters and crazy so I will never message them again. I laughed when I got the texts and deleted the messages, but keep the numbers. I find the lack of average intelligence here quite infuriating but obviously easy to overcome and defeating them in an argument is usually very easy.

My laptop problems really pissed me off. The pre loaded software crashed, and the repair store had no choice but to reload windows 8 onto it, which wiped the contents. I had backed them up on a drive I brought with me, but only a month ago, so my expense spreadsheets of the last month here are gone. Other problem is that the proprietary software used for the mirror my drive function is not on the generic windows 8 software, so until I get the actual software for this model of laptop it can't read the format of external hard drive files. I might be without it until go back home. Lucky I brought my old one and am using it.

My not using the air conditioning in my place and even unplugging it and also unplugging my laptop when I'm out or sleeping and using USB powered devices like speakers and cooling fans has given me a one month power bill of only about 800 pesos!

Man, give yourself a direction, you're burning yourself faster than a paper crane on fire.

[CerealKiller]

While I can't exactly condone Will's actions in the Philippines, I do admit that this thread's main plot line has started to wane a bit. I think it would be interesting if Will actually grew a pair and hit up some night spots. Another idea would be to, I dunno, actually spend a couple pesos on these desperately impoverished girls so they don't feel like a worthless piece of meat. But I could be totally wrong about that.



"Most people are assholes. It's better to limit your contact with them. They disturb your peace of mind. They drain your energy, bring you down, judge you, criticize you, cause conflict, etc. Why bother with people? All they do is cause conflict and trouble."
-HA founder Winston Wu

[publicduende]

"Most people are assholes. It's better to limit your contact with them. They disturb your peace of mind. They drain your energy, bring you down, judge you, criticize you, cause conflict, etc. Why bother with people? All they do is cause conflict and trouble."
-HA founder Winston Wu

ROTFL Did Winston really say that?