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Jeremy wrote:
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abcdavid01 wrote:My goal is Happier Abroad. That's not beating modern culture, at least not in America.
You mean that your goal is BEING happier abroad? If yes, then why do you care about these PUA types at all? They are irrelevant to your goal.
Well for someone to want to be Happier Abroad implies bad blood with America. I think going to college the past five months and seeing how easy it would have been for me to get laid only made me even more bitter. Not because missed opportunity, but because it shouldn't be that easy. I realized even more how corrupt American society's become and it's made me cruel. PUAs are punishing those sluts and I applaud them for it. The simple answer is that I've become cruel. Like Tsar maybe. But then again, Cornfed said there's nothing wrong with them getting shot, so maybe I'm still soft.
You're trolling, right? College is a sexual desert for the vast majority of male students. I must've approached over 400 girls, only to be rejected 100% of the time. Hardly any of my dorm mates got laid either.
My roommates and neighbors were popular, so I was in contact with a lot of girls. I didn't bother approaching girls, of course. They came to me. That's what pick up teaches anyway, don't chase.

I'll give you something free. When I was in high school there was this incident in class that really opened my eyes. I was in a group project with this girl and she kept saying my ideas were bad. So we got up to present and I let her do the talking. The teacher started questioning her on it, so she started giving my answers. I called her out for taking my answers in front of the whole class. There was awkward silence for a little while, but after we sat down I saw her staring at me. She wasn't glaring in anger. She was turned on. I felt the vibe. That and the way she acted towards me the rest of the year, I knew she was turned on because I put her in her place. It was a total accident, but I learned a lot that day.

Mr. Schmidt,

I read that post you made on CoAlpha and I have to say I've agreed with it for two years now. You were the one who introduced me to the website TheRightStuff, which led to me reading a lot of other websites that have been very influential towards my thinking. I don't know if I can thank you enough for it.

I'd just add that the difference between PUA and using drugs is that PUA actively harms sluts. It doesn't make a difference towards changing the culture, but it does give some small personal justice. Also, I do believe religion requires belief in the supernatural because most people are so stupid that if they don't believe in the supernatural they fall out of line. Like a preacher who loses faith, but continues preaching because he knows how awful people will begin to act if he stops.
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abcdavid01 wrote:I'd just add that the difference between PUA and using drugs is that PUA actively harms sluts.
How exactly?
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Cornfed wrote:
abcdavid01 wrote:I'd just add that the difference between PUA and using drugs is that PUA actively harms sluts.
How exactly?
Tsar said something I thought was very insightful:
Either a girl can be a good girl or a whore. A slut is a whore that wants to be treated like a good girl.
A PUA doesn't let her have that satisfaction. It's called pump and dump. He pretends to respect her only enough to use her, then cruelly abandons her when he loses interest. The sluts deserve that cruelty. It's justice for expecting to be treated like a good girl.

Fschmidt on Elliot Rodger:
I think most here do understand Elliot Rodger. The story is quite simple. A man of integrity can only put up with so much emotional abuse before he strikes back. Elliot Rodger's problem was that he was emotionally invested in modern culture. He should have let go and rejected modern culture and turned his back to it. Then he could have found solutions to his problems elsewhere. But everyone he associated with pushed him in the wrong direction, encouraging him to try to fit into a depraved culture that he could never really be a part of. If he had talked to us, he would probably still be alive.
Happier Abroad is one such solution and it is somewhat constructive. PUA is part solution, part revenge. PUAs reject modern culture too, which is why feminists hate them. PUA isn't constructive like Happier Abroad is, but it does offer a chance for revenge.
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abcdavid01 wrote:
Cornfed wrote:
abcdavid01 wrote:I'd just add that the difference between PUA and using drugs is that PUA actively harms sluts.
How exactly?
Tsar said something I thought was very insightful:
Either a girl can be a good girl or a whore. A slut is a whore that wants to be treated like a good girl.
A PUA doesn't let her have that satisfaction. It's called pump and dump. He pretends to respect her only enough to use her, then cruelly abandons her when he loses interest. The sluts deserve that cruelty. It's justice for expecting to be treated like a good girl.
But that is what the dirtbags they are f***ing are doing anyway. I don't see the difference. So they are being f***ed and chucked by higher quality men. So what? Maybe f***ing and chucking older sluts who are sexually invisible to the dirtbags they had previously been f***ing and think you are a sucker they are going to con into marriage would be funny. Is this what you mean? If so, OK, although it seems distasteful and potentially dangerous.
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Cornfed wrote:
abcdavid01 wrote:
Cornfed wrote:
abcdavid01 wrote:I'd just add that the difference between PUA and using drugs is that PUA actively harms sluts.
How exactly?
Tsar said something I thought was very insightful:
Either a girl can be a good girl or a whore. A slut is a whore that wants to be treated like a good girl.
A PUA doesn't let her have that satisfaction. It's called pump and dump. He pretends to respect her only enough to use her, then cruelly abandons her when he loses interest. The sluts deserve that cruelty. It's justice for expecting to be treated like a good girl.
But that is what the dirtbags they are f***ing are doing anyway. I don't see the difference. So they are being f***ed and chucked by higher quality men. So what? Maybe f***ing and chucking older sluts who are sexually invisible to the dirtbags they had previously been f***ing and think you are a sucker they are going to con into marriage would be funny. Is this what you mean? If so, OK, although it seems distasteful and potentially dangerous.
Yes, that's why I called it piracy. I do think HA or a more pure Reactionism is better.
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abcdavid01 wrote:Yes, that's why I called it piracy. I do think HA or a more pure Reactionism is better.
If the idea is to string along skanks who have past their use-by date then fine, but this is roughly the opposite of PUA. This is pretending to be some weak-willed nerd with a promising financial future that the predatory expired skanks can exploit and then pumping and dumping them. A kind of reverse PUA but then treating the skanks like a PUA would.
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MarcosZeitola wrote:
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MarcosZeitola wrote:Sociopaths are born, not raised, to be sociopaths.
Do you mean psychopath? If Elliot were a psychopath there would have been no problem since he would have had more sluts throwing themselves at him than he knew what to do with.
Maybe if he was a handsome, charismatic psychopath he would. But he was skinny, deathly shy and way too serious for his own good. He however clearly exhibited some signs of a sociopath\psychopath. There's no arguing that he's a messed up fellow.
You're a moron.
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abcdavid01 wrote:Well for someone to want to be Happier Abroad implies bad blood with America. I think going to college the past five months and seeing how easy it would have been for me to get laid only made me even more bitter. Not because missed opportunity, but because it shouldn't be that easy. I realized even more how corrupt American society's become and it's made me cruel. PUAs are punishing those sluts and I applaud them for it. The simple answer is that I've become cruel. Like Tsar maybe.
I am have become a bitter and darker person, but I am a righteous person, which is why I would be the anti-villain in the plotline. All I want in life is my happy ending. I don't really care about the means as long as I get my happy ending and I keep my pride intact.

Jabberwocky: Nobody's born a monster. We're made. A product of a cruel world... filled with cruel people.
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fschmidt wrote:I don't think there is anyone here who hates Americans as much as I do. I recognize that PUAs really don't make much difference. I am looking forward to the next economic depression when I can see Americans starving in the streets. And for that, I will thank the bankers and Obama.
I am also looking forward to the financial annihilation of the West, although I want to be abroad, have my ideal girl, and have a way of earning income so I could actually enjoy the fireworks. Whether it's the greatest hyperinflation in history or the worst economic depression in all history I don't care. I would place by bet on hyperinflation.

A recent example of a currency devaluation, but not hyperinflation would include Britain in the 1990s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Wednesday

I believe Argentina also had a recent currency crisis. http://buzz.money.cnn.com/2014/03/17/ar ... cy-crisis/

When the Western Roman Empire collapsed, the Eastern Roman Empire continued to prosper. America is the equivalent of the Rome of the Western Roman Empire, and the entire West is equivalent to the Western Roman Empire. Some areas of the West will recover somewhat or will recover after the collapse. America and Britain will never recover, and those two corrupt, decadent, and sinful countries will receive divine judgment.



It's already a nation of thieves and beggars. It's a nation of slaves and serfs. It's a Sodom and Gomorrah of godlessness, sin, and sluts. It's ruled by tyrants and kleptocrats.
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MarcosZeitola wrote:
Tsar wrote:
abcdavid01 wrote:Well for someone to want to be Happier Abroad implies bad blood with America. I think going to college the past five months and seeing how easy it would have been for me to get laid only made me even more bitter. Not because missed opportunity, but because it shouldn't be that easy. I realized even more how corrupt American society's become and it's made me cruel. PUAs are punishing those sluts and I applaud them for it. The simple answer is that I've become cruel. Like Tsar maybe.
I am have become a bitter and darker person, but I am a righteous person, which is why I would be the anti-villain in the plotline. All I want in life is my happy ending. I don't really care about the means as long as I get my happy ending and I keep my pride intact.

Jabberwocky: Nobody's born a monster. We're made. A product of a cruel world... filled with cruel people.
-From Once Upon a Time in Wonderland
What is your definition of a happy ending (besides the Thai massage parlor definition haha) and what are your ultimate life goals? Where do you see yourself in ten years from now, fifteen? And what are you willing\planning to do in order to get there as the anti-villain that you see yourself as?
To be fairly realistic the happy ending to my story includes:

1. Living abroad in Europe (Southern or Eastern).
2. Having at least one ideal girl. Marrying her as a virgin when she's 16.
3. Living in a beautiful villa with nice gardens.
4. Having a small business.
5. Able to have more leisure than work, and earning a passive income.
6. Completely retired by 50 or 55.

That way my life would be sort of like a fairy tale. I would have a princess and a good life.
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MarcosZeitola wrote: That sounds like a good plan, overall!

Some things to take in mind are age of consent laws. You may need the parents written approval before you get to marry, if you wish to be married before she turns 18. I myself married a girl of 21, we met when she was 18. She too was a virgin prior to when we met but she is a Filipina from a relatively conservative household. For matters of religiosity she remained a virgin until Mr. Right came in the form of me.

Would you and your ideal girl be having any children and if so, how many and how do you intend to raise them? Values and morals are very important. Also how old are you yourself and when do you see yourself marrying the girl? I heard age gaps can actually work in your favour in a marriage, it may be a very good plan from what I hear.

As far as retirement goes, sounds ideal. A very comfortable and enjoyable little life. Peace and quiet, and enough enjoyment. Very nice! And, if luck is on your side, quite doable as well.
I am presently 24. I see myself marrying the girl anytime once I find her and after anything I need verified is verified (so I know I'm getting the girl I want and not accepting a lie). I wouldn't have sex with a girl before marriage so I can show my honor and righteousness when I get famous and be on the moral high-ground if anyone called me out on it. Marrying her when she's 16 after one-three months of being with her would be enough time before marriage. Maybe 30 days dating, take her on a two week trip, show her exactly how great I am, and then marry her one week afterwards. 60 days would be enough time if she meets my standards. In arranged marriages the people might go into it as total strangers, so at least I would have selected my girl and known her for 45-90 days.

I would be open to children but it's not something I really think about too often. I know how I would raise them, and what values and morals I would teach them.
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Tsar wrote:I am presently 24. I see myself marrying the girl anytime once I find her and after anything I need verified is verified (so I know I'm getting the girl I want and not accepting a lie). I wouldn't have sex with a girl before marriage so I can show my honor and righteousness when I get famous and be on the moral high-ground if anyone called me out on it. Marrying her when she's 16 after one-three months of being with her would be enough time before marriage. Maybe 30 days dating, take her on a two week trip, show her exactly how great I am, and then marry her one week afterwards. 60 days would be enough time if she meets my standards. In arranged marriages the people might go into it as total strangers, so at least I would have selected my girl and known her for 45-90 days.

I would be open to children but it's not something I really think about too often. I know how I would raise them, and what values and morals I would teach them.
You have written rivers of inks detailing what your dreams are and what you want your love life to look like.

Not a single word I heard so far on how you plan to do it, let alone when. 24 means you're no longer a kid. You are able to work and save some money, or even work abroad if your degree and skills are on demand.

Like I said before, the amount of armchair tourism is one of the saddest things on HA.

Move your arse dude! In 10 years time you'll be still daydreaming about your virgin sweet 16 bride...
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MarcosZeitola wrote:Meanwhile I am 23 and already found and married my perfect Asian lady. :roll:

At least the guy has plans. Its good to always have plans and something to dream about\hope for. Without that we'd all go insane sooner or later.
Well, good for you. I assume you're from the US (Spain?) and living in the Philippines with your girl. That's all it takes, at the end of the day. A bit of initiative and the courage to drop the anti-world attitude and chill.
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publicduende wrote:Not a single word I heard so far on how you plan to do it, let alone when. 24 means you're no longer a kid. You are able to work and save some money, or even work abroad if your degree and skills are on demand.

Like I said before, the amount of armchair tourism is one of the saddest things on HA.

Move your arse dude! In 10 years time you'll be still daydreaming about your virgin sweet 16 bride...
I some plans I'm working on. Working is the most difficult part. With work you need a job (and most importantly a good job). I have a 4 year degree, I deserve at least $37,500 and that's assuming I work in a southern state. I was born in an era of injustice where everything is difficult. I am 24 and have no real work experience. I was kept down because my family never got anything in life and were happy living in the remote suburbs in the worst state in the country to try and get any job, no good jobs, and there are no opportunities. Almost every college graduate leaves my state. They leave with friends or their boyfriend or girlfriend to move to another state together, but I have no one except myself. I can't just relocate when I have no job and can't take on everything on my own with just any job or what it pays.

Business degrees aren't in demand anywhere in the world. I believe that is a fact.
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Tsar wrote:Like I said before, the amount of armchair tourism is one of the saddest things on HA.

Move your arse dude! In 10 years time you'll be still daydreaming about your virgin sweet 16 bride...
I some plans I'm working on. Working is the most difficult part. With work you need a job (and most importantly a good job). I have a 4 year degree, I deserve at least $37,500 and that's assuming I work in a southern state. I was born in an era of injustice where everything is difficult. I am 24 and have no real work experience. I was kept down because my family never got anything in life and were happy living in the remote suburbs in the worst state in the country to try and get any job, no good jobs, and there are no opportunities. Almost every college graduate leaves my state. They leave with friends or their boyfriend or girlfriend to move to another state together, but I have no one except myself. I can't just relocate when I have no job and can't take on everything on my own with just any job or what it pays.

Business degrees aren't in demand anywhere in the world. I believe that is a fact.[/quote]

A business degree might not be as in demand as an engineering or computer science degree, but it's a versatile one. Why don't you leave the state? It's not about "deserving", it's about finding the way to reach it, or more.

I would say the fact that you're by yourself is an advantage, not a burden. You have no legacy, so just save up a little and go. What are you waiting for?
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