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Anti-multiculturalism posters from Ukraine

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ladislav
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Anti-multiculturalism posters from Ukraine

Post by ladislav »

Fall in love girls, but just not with Russians. Russians are foreign people who will cause you nothing but sorrow.

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In Ukraine- only Ukrainian ( stuff).

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Respond in Ukrainian

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Think, act and be Ukrainian

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Take that club into the hand, bro, and chase that beast out of the house.

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One country- one language

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Stop Russification. There won't be phase 2.

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This way, I won't feel pity when I kill it.

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ladislav wrote:Image
Welcome back. I was just thinking about you the other day.

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Post by zboy1 »

Wow! So you're finally admitting that Whites can be as racist as Asians, too, Ladislav? :lol:

Glad to see you back on the forum. ...

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Well, in such a faraway land as Ukraine, there's no "white" category.

It's a very weak country with few friends. NATO is not going to help it. Russia to the north can just swallow it up. And no one will care. It's not supposed to be a multi-ethnic or federal state. It's not a melting pot, not a nation of immigrants. People have been there since 45000 years at least. And the female chromosomes show that the local females are totally indigenous going back even before that. Why should it not ask people to join it instead of creating enclaves?

And this is not against 'race'; it's against people not respecting the local "culture". And nothing is mentioned about "no Asians", "no blacks". It's against Russification of culture and other cultures becoming predominant. Those who accept the local culture and speak the local language are not being rejected.

The Ukrainian gov't is full of all ethnicities, but they have accepted the dominant 'culture', not "race". Nothing here is about ' whites'. It's about acting, talking and being local. Not much to ask for.

In contract to this, in Asia, even if you accept the culture and the language and try to assimilate, many people will never accept you.

And its the same to an extent in Anglo Saxon countries. But Anglo Saxon countries are reforming; they are educating people not to be racist. But in Asia- there are still signs "Japanese Only"." No Foreigners", etc. WTF?

In Ukraine now, the demand by many people is that other ethnic groups assimilate and become Ukrainians. But people can't become Japanese, Koreans, Chinese. Still a gaijin. And theres no movement to integrate them.
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Post by ladislav »

Here is another one:

The colors are red and black. Red is blood, black is Ukraine's rich top soil. A very sad flag of Ukraine's ultra right organizations.

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Translation:


Enough of your Disdain!

To all the Russkies who, in the East of Ukraine, are chanting " Russia, Russia!"

We explain:

You have occupied and are living in our dead patriots' homes

During the Great Forced Famine, 10 million Ukrainians were murdered ( starved to death)

And ethnic Russians were brought in to take their place.

Those who were transplanted here had a choice: Siberia or Ukraine, and if your parents chose Ukraine, then you must RESPECT the Ukrainian nation.

Otherwise,

Get the Hell Out of Ukraine!

And learn the language- Ukraine is not Russia

In the white letters, it says:

Chase the Russkie filth out of Ukraine.

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Post by pandabear »

I thought that Ukrainians and Russians were as similar as, say, Norwegians and Swedes.

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pandabear wrote:I thought that Ukrainians and Russians were as similar as, say, Norwegians and Swedes.
As my boss used to say every time I would come up with a sentence which started with " But I thought ..."

He would say:

"Then you thought like the biddy,

Who thought he'd farted... but shitted"

They are very different. Communal, romantic, emotional, patriarchal and "half- mad" Russians vs. very calm, individualistic, secretive, practical, stingy and matriarchal Ukrainians.

Also, Scandinavians can understand most of each other's languages, but Russians can only understand some 5% of Ukrainian spoken at normal speed. This is how the whole language issue started in the East. The Russian settlers did not want courts and schools to be in Ukrainian. They don't understand it. They can't listen and understand the news or the TV, either. This would not be a problem between a Norwegian and Swede.
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Post by Taco »

Yeah there doing everything they can to start WW III. NATO has an agreement to protect Ukraine things are already getting nasty.

Ukrainians Bury Dead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2VHcGa ... e=youtu.be

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Post by pandabear »

These Via Gra chicks are Ukrainian, aren't they?



Are they signing in Russian? Because, when I was studying Russian, I was able to figure out most of the lyrics to some of their songs. But, my Russian teacher told me that it wasn't really Russian (well, she wanted us to read newspapers, and didn't care for pop music).
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Post by Jester »

ladislav wrote:
They are very different. Communal, romantic, emotional, patriarchal and "half- mad" Russians vs. very calm, individualistic, secretive, practical, stingy and matriarchal Ukrainians.
Good info, never heard this anywhere.

Have no experience with Ukrainians but have dated a Russian chick or two and they were just as you say.

What about the native Russian speakers in the East? More like Russians or more like Ukrainians.?

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Viagra is from Ukraine, but they mostly perform in Russia. Many Ukrainian singers sing in Russian. Just like German bands sing in English -duh! The reason they do it is because then their market is 380,000,000 + Russian speakers ( native and non-native).

They are singing in Russian in this video.

The Russian language in Ukraine is like English in Ireland, sort of kind of.

It's simplified, the vocabulary is more basic; the accent is funny- like moaning, whereas in Russia they swallow vowels and " croak" like frogs. It's the Finno Ugric influence. Most Russians are not originally Slavic and did not speak Slavic languages up until the 15th century. Their accent is Hungarian-like. If that says anything.

The whole thing about "Russian speakers" is Putin's idiocy. All post-Soviet space is Russian-speaking. It's just that in some countries, they are reviving the old languages, but they still can't wean themselves off Russian. And many just don't want to. After all, all the Spanish and French ( and British) colonies kept their colonial languages, but the national pride is still marked by the unique accent in the language.

Who Putin tried to " protect" are those who don't want to learn the national language in addition to Russian.

This is something similar to Northern Ireland where the " British" people probably don't want to learn Gaelic- they did settle there some time ago and were born there, but they are British; not Irish. So Britain is "protecting" them.

The Irish also speak English, but they promote the national language as well. The "British" in Belfast mainly don't study it and don't want to assimilate even into the bi-lingual culture of Ireland.

The many descendants of Russian settlers in the Crimea and the East don't want schools to be in Ukrainian, they don't want TV channels to be in Ukrainian, they don't want courts or documents to be in Ukrainian. They complain that they can't understand anything.

Why not learn? Get a dictionary for God's sake! Those ethnic Russians who have learned the state language are now in the government. They run the military. There is no discrimination against them. Look at how many -ovs and 'ins there. Turchinov is the main speaker of the Parliament.

Here are some more people who have accepted the culture and are totally integrated:

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Sergey Nikoyan- well- he was killed defending the democracy. He is now the national hero. He is of Armenian origin- only first generation born in Ukraine.

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Avakov ( probably Avakian originally) Another Armenian-- born in Azerbaijan at that. A citizen and Minister of Internal Affairs. Not bad for a foreign-born person. He took his time to learn the language.

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Groysman- a Jewish guy- look at the name and the face. He is the Minister of Development. Well, at least he is not foreign born. Which would not matter there. The country has no laws against foreign born people.

Ukraine has made a huge U turn from its Nazi-like past, its intolerance and hatred for Jews, Russians and Poles and so many other nations. There now, all you need to be is a patriotic citizen and speak the language.

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Moses Fishbein- another Jew- a Ukrainian national poet.

So this oppression of Russian speakers is a myth. They are the ones who oppress.

To answer your question- Eastern Ukrainians in villages are a bit more open than the rural Western Ukrainians. In villages no Russian is spoken usually. In cities, they speak it. Are they all similar to Russians, then? Yes, kind of, except that they are not as intellectual- they are just practical people who want to make a living, that's all. They are kind of in between. Think again-- the Irish in Belfast- do they act Celtic or Anglo Saxon? Kind of half of this and half of that, basically.

Pandabear- if you want to listen to Ukrainian, do a search on youtube- "espreso tv live".

Also, there is a new channel "Ukraine Today"- it is in English. Just launched to counter Russian propaganda. Not aware of where in the US we can get it, but it can be watched in Europe from what I hear.

There are not many Ukrainians on the Coasts. Most are inland. Here in Ohio, the colonies are quite big. Same climate, so they are very happy here.
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Post by pandabear »

Ah, thank you!

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Post by Jester »

Informative.. food for thought... thanks Lad
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Post by ladislav »

A poem of resistance against Russia is going around different sites- sorry can't translate the rhymes. But generally, E. Euros can get pretty nasty in speech. I'd imagine the IRA wrote something similar against the Brits:

Утікайте, москалі, з української землі.,

Run, Russkies from Ukrainian lands

Забирайте автомати і вертайтеся до хати.

Take your machine guns and go back home

В нас є свій родинний дім і не місце тут чужим.

We have our own home and there's no place in it for strangers

Ми вас навіть не лякаєм, так, культурно посилаєм.

We're not even threatening you; just asking you politely

Вірні путінські собаки, не пішли би ви до ср**ки.

Ye loyal Putin's dog, why don't you go and f** yourselves

Нема кохання поміж нас, лише труба й природній газ.

There's no love between us; just a pipe and natural gas

Якби ви знали до кінця, чим дихає земля оця!

If you only knew what the Fatherland is capable of

З могил тут мертві можуть встати, щоб Україну захищати,

Corpses will rise from the graves to defend Ukraine

Тут душі славних козаків, всіх наших прадідів, дідів

Our glorious Cossack ancestors souls are here,

Повернуться назад із неба, якщо буде така потреба.

They will come back from heaven if needed

Жінки і діти тут повстануть, за Україну грудьми встануть,

Woman and children will rise and with their own chests will defend Ukraine

Тут ріки вийдуть з берегів, щоб потопити москалів,

Rivers will overflow their banks to drown the Russkies

На захист нашого народу тут стане Бог і вся природа,

In defense of our nation God and all nature will rise

І кров'ю скраплена земля, і не допустить москаля.

And the earth will bleed and won't allow the Russkie ( on it)

Запам'ятайте, злії люди, земля ця вашою не буде!

Remember, mean people, this land will never be yours

Її ми в силі захистити від вас, московськії бандити.

We're capable of defending it from you, Moscow bandits

Бо ми давно вже не раби, не завойовники, як ви,

We're no longer slaves nor invaders like you

У нас є гідність, честь, ідея, ми в бій готові йти за неї.

We have dignity, honor and Idea and we're ready to go into battle for it

У нас мета одна-єдина – велика, сильна УКРАЇНА!!!-

We just have one goal- Ukraine that is big and strong.

However, do keep in mind that this is not Yugoslavia. They are not against the ethnic Russians who are citizens of Ukraine. If this was some other country, there would be pogroms, or even if it were the US, you would have ethnic hatred and people yelling at the 5th column of those who look like them. Nothing like this is happening. It's all about loyalty and not ethnicity now. Which is a good thing.



However, some ethic Russians were not happy. They built barricades. The tanks attack them and I can hear the woman say:

"f---ing fa77ot b14hes, f--ing animals, f-- scum!"
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