Will over mongering and online forums like these just ruin

[chanta76]

It seems like there are allot of western guys who are frustrated with the west and goes over seas but once they are over seas they bring their westernization to that country and over play the place. It becomes to the point where that country is not the same as before. On top of that you have the internet where there is exchange of ideas . I also find that many mongers are not satisfied with one girl but they need to sleep with many girls or all the girls..with out realizing the long term consequence it can have. Wouldn't this just ruin places?

[newlifeinphilippines]

It seems like there are allot of western guys who are frustrated with the west and goes over seas but once they are over seas they bring their westernization to that country and over play the place. It becomes to the point where that country is not the same as before. On top of that you have the internet where there is exchange of ideas . I also find that many mongers are not satisfied with one girl but they need to sleep with many girls or all the girls..with out realizing the long term consequence it can have. Wouldn't this just ruin places?

agree. Thats why i avoid thailand but it appears many other countries have been ruined also.


Thats one good thing about India where the number of white guys is smaller than any other country in asia and yet india is almost the most populated place in the world.

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[newlifeinphilippines]

Mongers never sleep with quality girls. They only get the damaged goods who no decent man would touch anyway. So what bad do they do? Damage the already damaged? Ruin the already ruined? Turn the nations' hoes into hoes? Who cares.

Countries get Westernized, Modernized, not because of horny tourists with too much money to blow, but because of businessmen and exchanges of ideas. Because of the people of a country who work abroad, and the ideas they bring back upon their return. Mongers never ruined a country, because they aren't interested in a country beyond it's red light district. So your concerns, while no doubt noble and well intended, are unwarranted.

will n dowd has slept with many girls and so has mr blue light that are not in the red light district. I do agree though the problem is not mongers alone for example there is no foreign mongers in india for the most part but you can see the westernization happening there. Westernization happened in the philippines not cause of mongers but because of them accepting western ideas since they were apart of america or perhaps even spain.

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[newlifeinphilippines]

will n dowd has slept with many girls and so has mr blue light that are not in the red light district.

Limp Willy was in Davao, wasn't he? Which is not exactly off the well-beaten path and is a major city. Mr. Blue Balls was in Manila, so that definitely falls under what I said.

You could go to India, to some really remote and undiscovered city and try to live there. That's more in line with what I think it takes to get away. That's basically what I did in China. I rarely saw foreigners.

the only place that has alot of tourist is Goa but the thing is they are mostly backpacker hippie types in groups. Regular foreingers (whether western or singaporean or korean) are not coming to india or teaching english like they are in indonesia, philippines, vietnam, cambodia, thailand. Besides India is 12 times the population of Philippines. Its monger proof for that reason alone. Even china is monger proof for the fact it has so many people. Chinese or other asian women in big cities have bad attitude not cause of mongers but because they have more money and are more feminist minded and probably more open to westernized influences.

[Rock]

Over mongering can definitely damage a country for future generations of western guys who wanna meet local girls IMO.

The first place I saw that happen in was Colombia. Cali was a hotspot for dating and marriage agencies. They even had resort like B&Bs which allowed you to stay on the premises (for something like $60-70 per night) and have unlimited access to their photo catalogues of girls (divided into age groups). You could enjoy your breakfast poolside while browsing through hundreds of profiles chalk full of photos. All you had to do was write down the codes of girls that interested you, hand them to the secretary, and wala, she would ring them up and arrange dates right at the B&B. Colombia used to have a very scary reputation so the number of western guys (mostly American) who would visit and avail of such services were few and far between. But wow the ones who did had it made. Cus some of the gals in those catalogues were up there quality wise, especially in the 18-23 bracket.

Well, a few of the visiting foreign guys did get married but most could not avoid the temptation of kid in a candy factory opportunity so ended up playing and mongering. Word quickly spread that it was not only doable (not as dangerous as assumed) but also a dating paradise. Within years, it was pretty much destroyed - quality girls dropped off the books and hos, gold diggers, and party girls replaced them.

It's not just over mongering which damages a city or country for guys hoping to find unspoiled young local cuties and beauties to be with. Economic development in general seems to change girls. Talk to guys who spent time in say 1970s Thailand or S. Korea, 1980s Taiwan, or 1990s China. Consider how much Brazil has changed since the 12 years or so ago when a USD could buy well over 3 Reals and local currency prices were just a fraction of what they are today. Rio went from being priced like SE Asia to W. Europe within just a few years. That changed the attitude of girls a lot. Gringos from USA were no longer thought of as necessarily wealthy. And Italians and other Europeans were there as well throwing around their powerful Euros.

In Asia, it's been wealthy S. Koreans and Japanese guys traveling and mongering a lot more than they used to which has also had an effect. It's not all low quality girls. Some of the girls these guys (foreigners whether westerners or Asians) go for are nice girls and even virgins.

Another spoiler has been the whole smart phone and social media revolution. Girls constantly get validated on their devices.

I don't think India is a good place to go for meeting girls due to religious and cultural issues. There are better unspoiled places. The good thing about remaining unspoiled countries is that they have very high barriers to entry - far off the beaten path, difficult and expensive to get to, language barriers, comfort barriers, lack of electronic infrastructure and/or gov regulations which blocks girls from being plugged into too much social media, etc. Let's hope those pockets of the world remain viable for the few adventurous guys who have the means to visit them and perhaps wanna find a LT relationship w an unexposed girl.

[newlifeinphilippines]

How was kenya Rock? Do you think you could have gotten a Model looking there just for being white with ease?

[Rock]

Bluelight has pretty much admitted to being a phony. Didn't you guys follow that? Don't take his exploits seriously. The are fiction. So treat them like that and don't refer to them as if they really happened.

Will N. Dowd is avoiding straight-up P4P. But based on the many photos he showed me of girls he seemed proud of and the 2 girls I've actually seen him with, he's going for very unattractive types (in spite of their decent teeth and skin lol). And based on his posts here, those girls are uneducated simple country bumpkin types, nothing close to middle class.

[newlifeinphilippines]

Bluelight has pretty much admitted to being a phony. Didn't you guys follow that? Don't take his exploits seriously. The are fiction. So treat them like that and don't refer to them as if they really happened.

Will N. Dowd is avoiding straight-up P4P. But based on the many photos he showed me of girls he seemed proud of and the 2 girls I've actually seen him with, he's going for very unattractive types (in spite of their decent teeth and skin lol). And based on his posts here, those girls are uneducated simple country bumpkin types, nothing close to middle class.

Yes rock but everyone has established your taste are not the same as mine or most members here. Most would say will n dowds women are attractive.

And frankly I dont want a middle class woman. Those women will all scam you if you bring them to america faster than a simple bumpkin . Go ahead I dare you to bring a middle class woman to america

[Rock]

How was kenya Rock? Do you think you could have gotten a Model looking there just for being white with ease?

You can get model type girls to date you and sleep with you or at least that used to be the case.

BUT, the indications I get in Africa and from African ancestry girls in most places is that African girls are attracted to white guys mainly for material and status reasons. That goes even for good looking white guys unless he happens to be sexually attractive in a black sort of way.

In Philippines, girls can genuinely love you and want you on a physical level. But black girls are used to supermen lol. It's kind of like being an average NE Asian guy in Russia or USA trying to sexually attract white girls lol.

Now in places like Colombia or Brazil, there are some African ancestry girls who seem to have been brainwashed into believing whites are more attractive due to media, society, etc. But that doesn't seem to be the case as much in Africa, especially if you go for the same girls that local black guys find attractive. If you go for white guy girls (dark and skinny with less curve) maybe you have less competition and have a better chance.

[newlifeinphilippines]

How was kenya Rock? Do you think you could have gotten a Model looking there just for being white with ease?

You can get model type girls to date you and sleep with you or at least that used to be the case.

BUT, the indications I get in Africa and from African ancestry girls in most places is that African girls are attracted to white guys mainly for material and status reasons. That goes even for good looking white guys unless he happens to be sexually attractive in a black sort of way.

In Philippines, girls can genuinely love you and want you on a physical level. But black girls are used to supermen lol. It's kind of like being an average NE Asian guy in Russia or USA trying to sexually attract white girls lol.

Now in places like Colombia or Brazil, there are some African ancestry girls who seem to have been brainwashed into believing whites are more attractive due to media, society, etc. But that doesn't seem to be the case as much in Africa, especially if you go for the same girls that local black guys find attractive. If you go for white guy girls (dark and skinny with less curve) maybe you have less competition and have a better chance.

yeah sounds like youd get screwed over if you brought any black woman to america.

[Rock]

Bluelight has pretty much admitted to being a phony. Didn't you guys follow that? Don't take his exploits seriously. The are fiction. So treat them like that and don't refer to them as if they really happened.

Will N. Dowd is avoiding straight-up P4P. But based on the many photos he showed me of girls he seemed proud of and the 2 girls I've actually seen him with, he's going for very unattractive types (in spite of their decent teeth and skin lol). And based on his posts here, those girls are uneducated simple country bumpkin types, nothing close to middle class.

Yes rock but everyone has established your taste are not the same as mine or most members here. Most would say will n dowds women are attractive.

And frankly I dont want a middle class woman. Those women will all scam you if you bring them to america faster than a simple bumpkin . Go ahead I dare you to bring a middle class woman to america

Most...white guys in PI might say that about Will's gals. But look at who you see them with in places like Robinsons. Get real. Even the guys on Rooshe would probably laugh Will off if he posted photos of the gals he dates.

How do you know who will scam whom? Whether middle class or poor, you need to find girls with the right values and upbringing to lower the risk that they become contaminated Stateside or even scam you (whether that be in Phils or after you take her back home). Character is a very important consideration and it takes a lot of effort and work to really get into the head of a girl. Also keep in mind that physiologically, the brain continues to develop till the age of around 23 or so. So if you snap up an 18 year old, what you see now may not be what you have in 5 years.

[newlifeinphilippines]

Bluelight has pretty much admitted to being a phony. Didn't you guys follow that? Don't take his exploits seriously. The are fiction. So treat them like that and don't refer to them as if they really happened.

Will N. Dowd is avoiding straight-up P4P. But based on the many photos he showed me of girls he seemed proud of and the 2 girls I've actually seen him with, he's going for very unattractive types (in spite of their decent teeth and skin lol). And based on his posts here, those girls are uneducated simple country bumpkin types, nothing close to middle class.

Yes rock but everyone has established your taste are not the same as mine or most members here. Most would say will n dowds women are attractive.

And frankly I dont want a middle class woman. Those women will all scam you if you bring them to america faster than a simple bumpkin . Go ahead I dare you to bring a middle class woman to america

Most...white guys in PI might say that about Will's gals. But look at who you see them with in places like Robinsons. Get real. Even the guys on Rooshe would probably laugh Will off if he posted photos of the gals he dates.

How do you know who will scam whom? Whether middle class or poor, you need to find girls with the right values and upbringing to lower the risk that they become contaminated Stateside or even scam you (whether that be in Phils or after you take her back home). Character is a very important consideration and it takes a lot of effort and work to really get into the head of a girl. Also keep in mind that physiologically, the brain continues to develop till the age of around 23 or so. So if you snap up an 18 year old, what you see now may not be what you have in 5 years.

Ill repeat class or money has nothing to do with quality of a woman. The best girlfriends in philippines are the most simple and EAGER to please. The most demanding and annoying are the ones who dont' come from simple backgrounds. Maybe you like a girl who wants to pay for her own meals and makes you clean the toilets and call the shots to when you can have sex but I dont.

if you wait too long they will have too much baggage and be too old

Yes most foreigners ive seen have dog ugly girls but your taste is overly critical in some aspects like height or skin color or some other weird nuances of the body which really have little to do with beauty or excitement.

[Rock]

Bluelight has pretty much admitted to being a phony. Didn't you guys follow that? Don't take his exploits seriously. The are fiction. So treat them like that and don't refer to them as if they really happened.

Will N. Dowd is avoiding straight-up P4P. But based on the many photos he showed me of girls he seemed proud of and the 2 girls I've actually seen him with, he's going for very unattractive types (in spite of their decent teeth and skin lol). And based on his posts here, those girls are uneducated simple country bumpkin types, nothing close to middle class.

Yes rock but everyone has established your taste are not the same as mine or most members here. Most would say will n dowds women are attractive.

And frankly I dont want a middle class woman. Those women will all scam you if you bring them to america faster than a simple bumpkin . Go ahead I dare you to bring a middle class woman to america

Most...white guys in PI might say that about Will's gals. But look at who you see them with in places like Robinsons. Get real. Even the guys on Rooshe would probably laugh Will off if he posted photos of the gals he dates.

How do you know who will scam whom? Whether middle class or poor, you need to find girls with the right values and upbringing to lower the risk that they become contaminated Stateside or even scam you (whether that be in Phils or after you take her back home). Character is a very important consideration and it takes a lot of effort and work to really get into the head of a girl. Also keep in mind that physiologically, the brain continues to develop till the age of around 23 or so. So if you snap up an 18 year old, what you see now may not be what you have in 5 years.

Ill repeat class or money has nothing to do with quality of a woman. The best girlfriends in philippines are the most simple and EAGER to please. The most demanding and annoying are the ones who dont' come from simple backgrounds. Maybe you like a girl who wants to pay for her own meals and makes you clean the toilets and call the shots to when you can have sex but I dont.

if you wait too long they will have too much baggage and be too old

Yes most foreigners ive seen have dog ugly girls but your taste is overly critical in some aspects like height or skin color or some other weird nuances of the body which really have little to do with beauty or excitement.

I think there are some correlations to consider at the ends of the spectrum.

Rich class girls are more likely to have issues which create major relationship problems. Ditto for squatter class girls. Being brought up at the extreme ends contaminates. Also international class models (the 5'7" plus slim girls with pretty faces) will likely have lots of problems which don't make them good LT gfs. Careful also with super religious girls when considering them as serious mates.

Strong education background and/or much higher than average IQ (in Philippines) makes a girl much more interesting to talk to. But it has to be combined with strong character and good morals, often derived from the way she was raised and the values she absorbed from her family. If she lacks the education/IQ part but has the second part, she can still be a great mate but will probably be simple and not have a lot to say. Some guys prefer that. I kinda like it if I can talk to a girl for hours on end and have stimulating conversations and banter like I would have with a good friend.

There are plenty of great middle class girls who can get their hands dirty and are very generous and giving. Likewise, there are lots of greedy and lazy poor girls. Your generalizations are not valid in my experience.