Slow Death Through Loneliness

[droid]

How is this about whites, I just said you are way too angry and that some of the things you are seeing in China are going through angry glasses. You're the emotional one here.

[droid]

I completely agree with you. For me, it is always a mixed bag. There are things I love and things that I cannot stand. Korea, for example. Fantastic public transportation. Fantastic healthcare system. Absolutely hated the culture. I was f***ing miserable in Korea. Never going back.

Can you expand on that? how long were you there?
@Winston, if you think the Taiwanese are bad, wait till you see Koreans haha, those motherf*kers really give you the 'You're just not there' and 'See thru you' treatment.

I lived in Asia for about a four-year period. For a little longer than half a year of that, I lived in Korea. Prior to moving there, I had an interest in the Korean language and culture, going back to my time in university. (I had many Korean friends in college.)

I wasn't prepared for the outright hostility I would face. I am not a sensitive guy, but I am observant and notice when people are giving me crap. I was never physically attacked (although a random stranger took a swing at a friend of mine), but people went out of their way to give me a hard time. The vibe was often "Okay, when are you leaving?" or "f**k off, subhuman scum."

In retrospect, moving to a city of only a million to two million people was a big mistake. Seoul is okay. People in Seoul are more open and cosmopolitan, but I have absolutely no interest in living in Korea again. Once was enough.

I did connect with a few Koreans when I was there. If you do make a real Korean friend, they are very genuine. But the "pure-blooded Korean race/master race" stuff that a lot of Koreans subscribe to gets really old fast.

I think couples who go to Korea get less negative attention than young single white men, but I went on a trip with a Canadian couple once, and I was infuriated by how rude the bus driver was to us, so I think even young couples feel some of the heat. (Older couples who are visiting are treated very well.)

I wouldn't consider it weird if they actually even took a swing at me or gave me the stink-eye or tried to stare me down, i would actually like that interaction haha. But those cocksuckers really pretend you're not there. I've tried -just for the sake of science- staring at them for 20 seconds or so from 5 feet away and they will just not even flinch; sometimes you know they're slightly reading their peripheral vision but it won't go beyond that. Completely inhuman/autistic SOB's.

Even rude westerners will acknowledge you once in a while, but i'd never ever seen something like this. Nordic people get a bad rep for being stoic or what not but this is beyond any of that.

I think it's a mistake to think that Korea is an intermediate between Japan and China. On the surface maybe yes, but if you dig it's a complete surprise. It's not the case at all IMHO. And to clarify, it's not just about me, they are like that even among themselves, they're completely socially inept and really don't give a rat's ass about anything or anyone outside their 1 or 2 feet perimeter. Their rudeness is actually passive.

This is some of what I've seen, here they come into the coffee shops and the friendly Vietnamese say 'welcome', 'good morning', etc. But nothing, no response, the Koreans just come in and mumble their order with a snotty tone and won't even attempt to say thanks or anything, pretty much like filthy donkeys grabbing their portion haha, it's horrible. Then they walk out later and the Vietnamese say 'thank you', 'good bye', but nothing, no response no thanks, nada, they just storm out. What a bunch of animals, no wonder the Japanese have looked down on them.

To be fair though, a few of them have responded Ok, once you press to initiate the interaction. There's also a couple of good looking hags on my building and they say hi now after I broke the ice like four times. Again I'm really curious to see Korea proper at some point.

Yeah sorry Ghost for hijacking your thread lol, but i guess there is some relevance.

[gnosis]

Most of my time in Asia was spent in Vietnam. For me, there was a honeymoon period in Vietnam where I absolutely fell in love with everything. There was no honeymoon period for Korea. It quickly went from, oh, this is okay, to I f***ing hate this place.

[Ghost]

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[yick]

Look, at what's happened. I've simply explained the facts that whites are admired worldwide

The only places whites are 'admired' is in places where there are lots of white people - Europe, America and those kind of places, how is all that admiration for white people working out for you in China?

[Eric]

It's a mixed bag, I'd say. This is a complex thing - it's not black or white...it's very complex. Your statement is false, though. I know that for a fact. The Chinese admire Westerners and yet hate them at the same time, they want to hang onto their culture...yet there are so many things about us they like, and they do admire whites/white skin, blonde hair, blue eyes...etc. etc, and the wealth and popularity that they think we all have.

I could continue arguing with fools about this - but I have better things I have to do.

[yick]

Your statement is false, though.

It isn't.

I know that for a fact. The Chinese admire Westerners and yet hate them at the same time,

That is not true, if that was true, I wouldn't have been here five years, how long have you been in country again? Six weeks?

they want to hang onto their culture...yet there are so many things about us they like,and they do admire whites/white skin, blonde hair, blue eyes...etc. etc, and the wealth and popularity that they think we all have.

All my students were crying over the reitirement of LeBron James - they don't want to be him though, they certainly don't want to be you either. It offends a lot of you that they do not want to be you and they never ever have.

I could continue arguing with fools about this - but I have better things I have to do.

Truest thing you have ever said, bye now.

[Ghost]

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[gsjackson]

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the reitirement of LeBron James :

???? Do you mean Kobe Bryant? Or Tim Duncan?

[gnosis]

Um, Ghost, I think you're taking this whole dating thing a little too much to heart. You are in your twenties, correct? You have time to find the "one," and even if that never happens, you have lots of potential fun ahead of you.

I think I understand your frustration. It's a different dating world than it was even when I started college. Girls have more options, and they know they have more options. Like you, I hate the social media plague of facebook/smartphones/app this and app that.

You're looking for a feminine woman who hasn't been "hardened" or become jaded and is attractive but also accessible? It's hard to find a good woman. Maybe you should consider taking a break for a while and indulging in some P4P or working on another aspect of your life. P4P will help with the sexual frustration, and you might feel better about your life if you are successful working on another goal that's important to you.

[MattHanson1990]

Well, I'm giving up all hope as well, unless I can find a way to head to Eastern Europe or the FSU. I think those are the only places left to find decent women who won't suddenly go cold on you. They're completely resisting the American cultural poison. Or there's rural Mexico, smaller towns, or the southern part of the country like Chiapas or Oaxaca.

[Eric]

I'd go to a Spanish speaking country, considering I'm nearly fluent in the language...and I find the culture agreeable to me. Just do what you want to do - and don't let what anybody says here influence you too much negatively, forums are, can be bad for that reason.
Self-righteous cunts say things they'd never get away with in real life, for other purposes besides helping you out; no doubt some butt-hurt will say something now, their pride is the last thing they are able to lay low. Unable to look at themselves, they attack, knowing nothing else, never able to look at themselves or have objective criticism, don't be like it.

Matthanson, just do what you want to do. It sounds like you were happy in Mexico or Latin America.

I will also add that it's hard to find an intelligent woman, or at least a woman that's not a complete fool, and attractive. So many men have lax standards when it comes to hooking up; whatever that's fine. To me, there's something about a foolish woman that just makes me turn my head and not accept it.

[ezinho]

She's going to go to the U.S. next year, to the f***ing American version of Sodom and Gomorrah.

California or new york?

[Ghost]

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[droid]

Self-righteous c**ts say things they'd never get away with in real life, for other purposes besides helping you out; no doubt some butt-hurt will say something now, their pride is the last thing they are able to lay low. Unable to look at themselves, they attack, knowing nothing else, never able to look at themselves or have objective criticism, don't be like it.

You really are projecting there Eric. You have at least four posters telling you your (re)actions are disproportionate.

Some Reddit "wisdom" lol:

If you find an asshole one day, you've found an asshole. If you find assholes everyday, you are being the asshole