Constructive question? I like that lol.Winston wrote:Rock,
heres a constructive question for you. if u had been in my position with summer or lisa, what would YOU have done differently to get a different result? read my detailed account with them on forum and tell me please. be specific. and how confident are u that ur "different actions or game" would have bore any better results than me? be honest please.
havent u been in any situation where u did everything right and logical, yet everything went wrong? that never happens to you? or is life is always logical and makes sense?
life and love are not like that. im sure u know that. u can do everything right and good, but if its with the wrong person, it wont work. on the other hand, u can mess up repeatedly, like i did with dianne, but if its meant to be, she will come back to u and still love u. see what i mean? so are u still 100 percent sure that things could have gone differently with summer or lisa if i did something differently?
anyhow, what makes you so sure that i did something wrong with summer or lisa? Why u act 100 percent certain of it? why dont u think that maybe THEY did something wrong? or that they just didnt like me for me? Why u think all women are controllable and will like u for u if u do the seduction or game correctly?
ask summer what i did wrong. see if she can come up with something i did wrong that a reasonable man would not have done. or even that u would not have done. if u can come up with something concrete and valid, ill give u 100 dollars. you on? lets get to the truth here, not ur baseless shaming tactics that AW tend to use. comprende?
rock now let me ask u a hypothetical question:
if you went with lisa on a 39 hr train ride, and u suffered and was uncomfortable and complained, and she used it against u as a sign of ur weakness and lost her love for you after that, would u think that she was being fair or reasonable? answer honestly please?
we both know that if i had been on an uncomfortable grueling 39 hr train ride with dianne, dianne would NOT have changed her feelings or love for me after that. so why would lisa? either lisa never truly loved me or shes super changeable, which she admitted many times. the lisa that fell in love with me and the one that dumped me rudely didnt seem like the same person at all.
incidentally, i never used any game or seduction on lisa. she liked me for me. when we first met she was drawn to me and enamored because i was so different than typical chinese guys. she liked that i was deep, genuine and a freethinker, all of which was very refreshing to her and made me an intriguing novelty.
all i had to do to get her into bed was tell her that i wanted to sleep with her and make love. thats it. she was aroused and found the notion of forbidden love (since she was still married at the time) to be intoxicating. she was drawn to the taboo.
anyway, she liked and loved me for me. even when she read all about me online, she still loved me. when someone loves all that u are, then u pretty much got it made with her right? nothing can go wrong in theory, especially if you do nothing wrong and play it safe and go with the flow, which is exactly what i did.
so what eventually happened with her was totally inexplicable and unexplainable and illogical. remember lisa freely admitted that shes very changeable. Therefore if SHE changed and i did NOT change, then the fault and cause of the breakup can NOT be me, technically speaking! after all, i did not change into something else. i was still the same guy she fell in love with. bottom line: she changed, not me. thus technically i cannot be at fault. therefore, you cannot justifiably blame me or spin it against me using unfair shaming tactics like dirty politicians do. agreed? case closed. so please dont ever blame me for the lisa incident ever again, unless u have a logical reason to. make sense? comprende?
I've messed up a lot with girls cus I too often behave weakly or react to their tests, especially if I like the woman too much from the onset.
But I do act more masculine sometimes too and that tends to work out a lot better. Even if the girls does not like me romantically, at least she's more likely to respect me and not make a chump out of me.
A few points:
- It's not so much about what you did. It's about what you didn't do. If you walk on eggshells and do no wrong, that is not gonna attract many women. You're better off being bolder, stronger, and acting like some sort of guy who's got his shit together. Have an agenda and follow it without hesitation. Don't get sucked into her drama. Better to be cool and don't react emotionally when she tests you (which they almost always do). If she goes too far, be prepared to walk. Who knows, she might just come running after you, apologize profusely, and beg for forgiveness. Even if she doesn't, she will be more emotionally moved in a positive way. Carry yourself in a way that tells her you are complete, with or without her ass. Don't do the opposite (kiss her butt, argue, whine, get upset, etc.) which is what so many modern weak men do!
- I would never get on a 39 hour train with any woman. That's not gonna happen with me. I would tell her if she really wants to go by slow train, she's on her own. I may fly to the destination (if I feel like it) and she's welcome to contact me when she arrives days later. When a girl insists on doing something stupid and you follow along (even reluctantly), you've already lost a lot of points.
- If a girl can easily control, manipulate, or cause you to react, you've shown blatant weakness and that's a big turn-off. If she doesn't leave you, she will at least loose respect for you and will more likely cheat when the first opportunity arises.
- If a girl has too strong a personality and you can't manage to dominate her the way a natural alpha might, you are better off just having a good bout of sex with her then leaving her. She will actually respect you more if you behave like that instead of letting her control you in some way.
- As for mainland Chinese girls, so many tend also to consider the practical long term. You are pretty transparent and they easily see through you in short order. They peg you as an unstable player type with no real career, goals, or direction. Add to that your on-the-spot behavior is hesitant, slow, and sometimes confused. Since you're middle age, they expect you to be a solid man, not a curious lost boy. They see you as set in your ways, someone who will not change. That doesn't give them much sense of security.
- I met Summer a few weeks ago in Shenzhen. She told me that she really doesn't care about a guy's looks and that her last bf was older than you, darker, and not really good looking. But he made her feel safe and taken care of. But with you, she felt like she would have to take care of you, that you are kinda a helpless child. That's why she started acting evasive, flaky, and bitchy. She wanted to drive you away.
- A lot of Asian girls are not like westernized white chicks. They don't expect you to be a hyper masculine alpha with a long hard cock to boot. But you need to at least have a plan and lead the dates a bit. Also, they expect you to read them to a degree and take care of them (empathy). You remember when you, I, zboy, and Marissa were in Koreatown looking for a place to eat? Marissa was starving and kept indicating that no so subtly. But you ignored her and insisted that we keep walking further down to see what food was available. She just wanted to stop and eat at any of the places we passed and it was very clear to me. But you seemed to miss it. That pissed her off and if you had been her date, you would have lost a lot of points I think. Do you remember her getting annoyed at you later that evening? There was a reason.
- It's true that some player types can manage to successfully seduce women in China even though they are identifiable as a player. They succeed on the basis of other strengths. Either they are young and/or good looking or they are experts at reading a women and connecting with them emotionally. Others may widely be considered to have personal charisma and charm. They bring something to the table which can work magic on certain girls. But if you don't have any of these 'gifts', and they see you as a player, then your SOL cus you have no compensating factors.
. We joked about it.
