How many women have you married? I've dated other women before I got married. If you are looking to seduce women you aren't married to, I don't have any experience doing that. I thought your objective was to find one wife. If I understand your past posts right, you have zero wives. I have one.Adama wrote: ↑December 17th, 2017, 9:02 amMrMan wrote: ↑December 17th, 2017, 8:48 amWhy don't you look in the mirror and read that post, then? There is no need for you to seek out strife here. I don't get you sometimes.Adama wrote: ↑December 17th, 2017, 8:28 amMrMan. Certain men think they are wise and are not. They are always giving advice but should remain silent. They don't even know how much wisdom they lack because they are wise in their own eyes.
Someone who has limited experience and very little knowledge should not go around giving advice.
If a man has only ever gotten one woman in his life, does it make sense that he should give advice to someone who has picked up more than one? If a man has only ever had one woman how can he give advice to a man who has had more than him?
Does it make sense for a man who has earned only one dollar to give advice on how to earn money to a man who has earned much more than one dollar?
Women are people. My wife submits to me, but there have been times she's struggled with it. What about you? Do you ever struggle with anything? Are you perfectly submissive to God, all the time... without it being a bit of a struggle for you? By struggling I don't mean it has to be something like giving up getting drunk or looking at porn. It could also be something like spending less time or no time watching TV so you could pray, or being kind to someone you don't care for or who has done you wrong in the past. If you thought about it, you'd probably realize there are some areas where you have struggled to be submissive to God.Does it make sense for a man who heavily implies that his wife has problems with submitting to him to give advice on how to find a submissive woman?
I remember reading your post about what a submissive woman is like. Its an archetype of the submissive woman. As I recall, it sounded good. But it's an archetype. Women are people. They may mess up and not live up to your expectations. You don't marry an ideal. You marry a person, a woman who can make mistakes, get on your nerves, misunderstand your motives. You can describe the perfectly submissive woman, but you haven't gotten her. You haven't married her. If you've seen a woman like that married to some other guy, unless she's your mom or another close relative, you don't know what she's like when she's behind closed doors. She may be a submissive woman in general, but she could slip up, or she could just be submissive, but it could be hard for her at times. I think it's normal for it to be hard for women to be submissive. If women were just naturally submissive, why would the Bible have to tell them to submit to their husbands. They'd just do it. The Bible doesn't command the sky to be blue. If the clouds and smog are gone in the daytime, the sky is just blue. But it tells wives to submit because they might be tempted not to. It tells them that because they may be tempted not to be submissive.
I know this is just common sense, and if someone would have told me this even as a teen, I might have said, "no duh." (It was the '80's. That's what we said back then.) But not long before I met my wife, it really hit me. If you marry a woman, you marry a real person, with flaws or weaknesses, or whatever, and you have to deal with those weaknesses and still love her. I was looking for an idealized list of things, including spiritual things, character, looks, virginity. I actually got most of those things, but the idea that I would marry a person who could fall short and love her hit home with me. I wondered, in hindsight, the Lord waited until I had the realization to find a wife. Of course, I do not know all His thinking on such matters.
I've got it pretty good, actually. The main thing my wife does that annoys me is wanting to talk when I want to read or do something else. That's not a bad thing, but it's annoying. The other thing is not pointing her arms straight up and down when she washes her face, and splashing water around. I don't know if that comes from having breasts and its a female thing, or if it comes from the Asian wet floor bathroom thing. But I digress.
If you eventually marry, and I suspect you will, you aren't going to be marrying with an idealized list of characteristics. You'll marry a woman. And she might fall short on some of your list of expectations of the idealized submissive wife, and you'll have to forgive her and move on.
As far as the idealized submissive woman goes, the husband creates the situation where the wife can submit. He can ignore the issue or create a situation where it is hard for her not to take over and she is tempted to be unsubmissive. So a lot of it is on you, on how you treat her, without being an ogre, but still providing leadership.
Trying to find an idealized archetype may not work out for you, since women do not always conform to the ideal in our mind. High standards are good, but realism and understanding are necessary, too.
Are you wanting to pick up women, or find one to marry? I've got experience interacting with my wife before and while we were dating, and since, and with girls I dated beforehand. How many girls that actually asked you out that you dated turned out to be your archetypal submissive woman?It would seem to me that the person with less experience picking up women should really refrain his lips. Because for someone with near zero experience to act as if he has much more than the one he gives it to, seems like complete arrogance to me.
The issue I addressed was whether a woman who asks you out is as likely to have the submissive characteristics you are looking for, anyway.
Your going loggerheads with me over a topic like this is what's foolish.