If you marry a woman, make sure she has a strong maternal instinct

[Zambales]

I don't entirely agree with this simply because a good mother won't necessarily make a good wife. Have you seen those women who adore their kids and will do anything for them but will treat the father like a cunt? I've come across plenty.

I don't entirely agree either about women who have pets make for a poor partner. If they treat it badly or use it as a fashion accessory by dressing it up then I'd be more inclined to conform to this. Having said that, even if they don't do either of these it won't necessarily make them into a decent partner.

I would rank other aspects as far more important such as.....

Fairness. If they're not fair they'll take the piss. Period. Self-explanatory really. No more to add.

Cowardice. A very bad sign in a woman. If the shit hits the fan you don't want her running off to greener pastures. Expect 100% loyalty regardless of the situation. Unfortunately cowardice is a common trait amongst women especially in the West. Look for clues and any resemblance to this nasty behaviour early on and if she obliges buy the bitch a bus ticket. Ciao.

Laziness/effort. Is she naturally lazy? If she is, the likelihood of her being entitled is high and that's bad news in any guy's book. Does she make a sustained effort with you and enjoys your company without you having to spend any money on her? If so, that's a positive sign.

[Neo]

Besides having faith in Christ (and not belonging to some deceived false denomination of Christianity which denies faith by including works), I'd say the first thing a woman needs to be is openly obedient. She should also desire to please the man.

Next, I'd say watch out for women who play games or who have tricks up their sleeves. Watch out for subtle deceptions.

Also, watch out for women who are bossy, uncooperative, or angry, and women who are still dating other men or flirting with other men.

[Contrarian Expatriate]

How about not marrying at all? Just a thought....

Stay MGTOW free and strong!

[Neo]

Also look at her age... I personally would never advise dating any woman, let alone marrying one, who is over the age of thirty. No matter your own age. In fact no woman past, say, 25, is really much of a prize. The Chinese term "Leftover women" comes to mind.

Know that I am a romantic at heart... I'm all for growing old with a woman if there's a genuine bond of love and affection between the two of you. But even here there are men who would consider marrying a woman who is, say, 32, and think themselves lucky. I disagree. The more I think about it the more I am convinced youth is a very valuable asset not to be underestimated. I always shake my head when I see men here describing a 'date' with a woman who is 30 plus, like, why?

I don't even bother talking to too many people about real topics.

[Cornfed]

I don't see the dichotomy between loving pets and loving children, except in the sense that a female might substitute the former for the latter. My mother loved both as far as I could tell.

[TD-40]

I have seen women who get a little older start owning dogs just because they naturally want to love something, and since they don't have a man or have children then what are they going to give their love to? An animal, because that's all they have. And once a man comes into her life then her attention toward the dog will dissipate as her love gets transferred to the man.

[Zambales]

Also look at her age... I personally would never advise dating any woman, let alone marrying one, who is over the age of thirty. No matter your own age. In fact no woman past, say, 25, is really much of a prize. The Chinese term "Leftover women" comes to mind.

Know that I am a romantic at heart... I'm all for growing old with a woman if there's a genuine bond of love and affection between the two of you. But even here there are men who would consider marrying a woman who is, say, 32, and think themselves lucky. I disagree. The more I think about it the more I am convinced youth is a very valuable asset not to be underestimated. I always shake my head when I see men here describing a 'date' with a woman who is 30 plus, like, why?

But if this is your mindset, isn't it a risky ploy getting married because she won't be under thirty forever? How will you feel about her once she gets above that age? If you have a penchant for younger women you'll probably always will and that may create problems within your marriage as she gets older.

[Zambales]

I have seen women who get a little older start owning dogs just because they naturally want to love something, and since they don't have a man or have children then what are they going to give their love to? An animal, because that's all they have. And once a man comes into her life then her attention toward the dog will dissipate as her love gets transferred to the man.

I agree with this although I don't believe a woman will lose her love for her dog or give it less attention just because she's met a man. More of an even keel. Similar to loving two offspring the same.

[Cornfed]

The whole premise of this thread is counterintuitive to me. I would think that if a female is goodhearted towards animals she would be goodhearted towards children as well. That said, I would exclude women who are into horses from that, who should be regarded as even deeper money pits than normal women and avoided at all costs.

[Contrarian Expatriate]

Women satiate their maternal instinct in 2 major ways, having children or caring for pets. Most Western women prefer pets because they entail but a fraction of the care that children require and pets cater to women's every narcissistic whim unlike children who often don't act in ways the women demand.

I have seen women react to fatal tragedies involving infants or small children and it each case, the women were jaw-dropped speechless yet subdued. But I have also seen women react with shreeking hysteria at the mere mistreatment of pets. Few of them would do the same at the mistreatment of a child.

Finally, women don't suffer from Post Pet Purchase Syndrome, but they often do suffer Post Partem Depression due to the demands of caring for the child.

All that is my proof that Western women generally care far more for pets than they do for children.

[Zambales]

But if this is your mindset, isn't it a risky ploy getting married because she won't be under thirty forever? How will you feel about her once she gets above that age? If you have a penchant for younger women you'll probably always will and that may create problems within your marriage as she gets older.

I would say it's different when you marry a woman who is younger herself at the time you meet her. Say you meet a young and inexperienced girl by the time she's 18, marry her when she's 20... you got yourself a fresh one. You can grow (up) and build your lives together. Age gaps don't matter much IMO, you could be ten or twenty years older for all I care and I would still recommend a young woman. As opposed to marrying a woman with a 'reasonable' age gap, reasonable in the perception of Westerners.

A woman who is 30+ is just... haggard, inside & (not always) out. She's got baggage. And there's a reason she wasn't married before, not always a good reason, not always a reasonable one, and you may never really find out why. But for me, it would bother me. If ever my marriage would fail me, I would not like to marry again to someone my age. I had an uncle who did this. He divorced the mother of his children in his forties... he was a handsome man, full head of hair, tall, fit and quite well-to-do... then he shocked us all by marrying a woman he met behind the counter of some little pub. The woman was in her late forties, pretty but a little rough looking and he absolutely could have done better. But he fell into the trap of having a "respectable age gap".

You know, the whole "half your age plus seven" bullshit. Such a pity. Too many men aren't aware of their value. It's shocking... I met a decent enough Dutch man one day. Not handsome but not broke either. Forty plus. His 'wife' was a transgender Filipino, fifty years old and looking like someone's Lola. He easily could have married a woman half 'her' age... easily. But he didn't. My wife remarked that at the gathering of expats and their partners, this 'woman' was the most interesting, because what on earth could have moved the guy into this marriage? The answer, in my opinion is simple... guys settle, because they are not aware of their value.

Age is a factor but not the most important. Not by a long chalk. In my experience personality comes first and that's down to past relationships with fiendish females. When that happens, looks and even age aren't as high on the agenda as they once were.

Baggage can be attached to a female of any adult age and this can stem from childhood. Baggage can also be alleviated but for a woman to do this she needs to be strong. In other words, the makings of a real woman. One that can put aside her problems from the past and move on and not keep wandering aimlessly within a vicious circle. Usually culprits can be identified in the way of heavy drinking and sometimes violence.

[Neo]

Besides having faith in Christ (and not belonging to some deceived false denomination of Christianity which denies faith by including works), I'd say the first thing a woman needs to be is openly obedient. She should also desire to please the man.

I understand your point but as I see it, if obedience and putting your man first is important to you in a woman, would you go for a career-oriented childless woman who loves pets over children? It's easy to spot such a woman and it is easy to tell she is not the type to sacrifice. If a woman's first focus is on herself and her financial well-being, fine. Good for her. But she does not have that nurturing and supportive side you need in a life partner. As a woman, she is clearly defective. She's best operating solo.

I feel sorry for some of those women. Who knows what went wrong. I can only assume that some of them just accepted the brainwashing of feminism, that a woman needs a career and not a man. I met at least one of those older women, who doesn't have a man, because, as she openly stated to me, she was always focused on her career.

On the other hand though, I can see how even I was brainwashed and believed and did some foolish and unnecessary things when I was younger and in unbelief, and how after I got saved, I realized how ridiculous and silly those things were, and then stopped doing them. (I used to believe in human evolution and was even an evolutionary anthropology major, in the hopes of becoming a professor.)

Some people can see how silly some things are after they're told the truth and the light shines in, and some never will. God can cause a total transformation in a person's lifestyle in a very short time. It happened to me.

But I do see your point. There are many people who have relatively little empathy for other humans, but if a pet is mishandled in the most minor way, they are upset. There are also many "deal breakers" when it comes to forming relationships with other people. It just comes down to the individuals and their preferences.

[Zambales]

Age is a factor but not the most important. Not by a long chalk. In my experience personality comes first and that's down to past relationships with fiendish females. When that happens, looks and even age aren't as high on the agenda as they once were.

Baggage can be attached to a female of any adult age and this can stem from childhood. Baggage can also be alleviated but for a woman to do this she needs to be strong. In other words, the makings of a real woman. One that can put aside her problems from the past and move on and not keep wandering aimlessly within a vicious circle. Usually culprits can be identified in the way of heavy drinking and sometimes violence.

I don't necessarily disagree with your statements, but the fact remains that a woman who is single past a certain age, well, there's often a number of reasons for her being single and most of them aren't exactly ideal. I would say with foreign women, doubly so... like this Filipina music teacher I knew through a cousin-by-marriage of my wife... the woman was in her early thirties, quite unattractive by both local standards as well as through a foreign man's rose tinted glasses... think flat-nosed, chubby, squat and very much looking like the maid rather than the missus, She was fishing for men online to marry her. No local man was good enough for her, hubby had to be foreign and he had to be white. She eventually found a Norwegian man, late forties. They married and had two kids. By all accounts their marriage is okay but of course all I see is the social media stuff they want you to see.

Now this man the woman is with, he's not even a bad looking guy. He is in decent shape for his age, and as an engineer with a reputable company he makes good money. Their house is HUGE. Quite a lot of lands around them too, they have their own little lake and everything. Her husband isn't the most suave guy ever, he's a bit shy, a bit socially awkward and something seems 'off' about him. I'm going out on a limb and assume he did not do well with Scandivian women. So he jumped on the first opportunity he got, and well... he could have done far better.

A lot of men end up with women who are, at best, decent, at worst simply landwhales. They could have done a million times better, especially abroad. But they settle for far less than they could get.

I think guys who go abroad and pick an unattractive partner are either desperately lonely or want a servant.

I have a friend who corresponded with a number of Filipina's by snail mail during the 80's long before online dating came to fruition - and he wasn't a bad looking guy either. Anyway, he whittled down these potential marriage candidates to about three saying to himself that the first one which turned up at the airport when he landed was going to be his wife. He didn't revoke on his promise. Currently him and his missus are middle aged and still married albeit sleeping in separate rooms and without a sex life. She's 4 foot something and never been particular attractive but she is a very good wife and to be fair, he seems happy enough.

I do think though, that the reason he married was because he couldn't live on his own and needed a woman to care for him. How attractive she was didn't seem to be an issue at all. Whatever floats his boat I guess.

And age is a big factor. Western men are often indoctrinated to view (large) age gaps in a relationship with some discomfort, and it screws them over. It leaves them more or less forced to deal with women who are at least somewhat close to their age range, and many of those women remained single for as long as they did for a good reason. Others were married before and divorced, single mothers and all that, but that's a whole different ball game lol.

I've been with women in their late teens, twenties, thirties and forties and in my experience the younger one's are far more of a headache. Even Filipina's - and my biggest gripe with them is what they're notoriously famous for being. IMMATURE! That's why nowadays I wouldn't entertain a Filipina much below the age of thirty. I just can't be around a woman that's annoying.

[Ghost]

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[CannedHam]

Women satiate their maternal instinct in 2 major ways, having children or caring for pets. Most Western women prefer pets because they entail but a fraction of the care that children require and pets cater to women's every narcissistic whim unlike children who often don't act in ways the women demand.

I have seen women react to fatal tragedies involving infants or small children and it each case, the women were jaw-dropped speechless yet subdued. But I have also seen women react with shreeking hysteria at the mere mistreatment of pets. Few of them would do the same at the mistreatment of a child.

Finally, women don't suffer from Post Pet Purchase Syndrome, but they often do suffer Post Partem Depression due to the demands of caring for the child.

All that is my proof that Western women generally care far more for pets than they do for children.

Exactly this. And the fact that women look at pets and children in such a way, with pets receiving more love and adoration than human infants, is extremely telling as to how f***ed up and rotten to the core society has become. In 2019 there are couples who break up and, I kid you not... fight over who gets custody of Mr. Fluffy. It's just deranged.

Can't disagree with a single thing you wrote MarcosZeitola.

Apart from the emotional aspect of this, the amount of money spent on pets to me is un-f****g believable. A co-workers uncle just spend $12k on a surgery for his f*****g 15 year old dog!

People who think their pets "love" them are sick. Animals have no choice - either placate your owner or don't get fed.

And the millennials that struggle to pay back their students student loans (that they took out voluntarily) while spend $1000-2000/year on their dog --- don't even get me started.

American society has become absolutely deranged when it comes to pets.