Angry Incel Men

[Taco]

You need to find a country with lots of friendly, single women, that's what I did. Don't let this happen to you.

Angry Incel Men
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06- ... ing-sprees

[Cornfed]

If it"s any consolation, post-wall hags find you attractive after a point.

[Zambales]

A lot of these incels are targeting women way out of their league. They need to get realistic and go for a woman close to their attraction level. There's someone for everyone.

To the world and his dog, this would be a mismatch.



Far more fitting for him.

[Contrarian Expatriate]

If it"s any consolation, post-wall hags find you attractive after a point.

It’s good to see you finally admit you’re an incel. Congratulations on your progress in self awareness although we knew it all along.

[Yohan]

You need to find a country with lots of friendly, single women, that's what I did.

Relocation to abroad, away from Western countries makes sense.

The problem however is that there are not so many countries with lots of friendly single women ...
It's not only and always about 'women'.

There are also many other criteria to consider, like visa/working permit, lucrative jobs, language, available medical care etc. etc. ....

To go to where? About myself, I decided to leave Europe for always, moved to Japan and my second home is in Thailand.

[flowerthief00]

This entire discussion is ridiculous. Anyone who would open fire on random civilians has A LOT more wrong with him than lacking a woman. It's a total misdiagnosis of the problem to start recommending people relocate to abroad over this.

Incel is a stupid word anyway. Virtually no one is really truly incel. Are you a quadriplegic? Ok, maybe I can believe it. Everyone else? There is at least some amount of choice you are exercising in the matter, and therefore "involuntarily" does not apply.

[fschmidt]

This entire discussion is ridiculous. Anyone who would open fire on random civilians has A LOT more wrong with him than lacking a woman. It's a total misdiagnosis of the problem to start recommending people relocate to abroad over this.

Incel is a stupid word anyway. Virtually no one is really truly incel. Are you a quadriplegic? Ok, maybe I can believe it. Everyone else? There is at least some amount of choice you are exercising in the matter, and therefore "involuntarily" does not apply.

I would gladly open fire on Americans. They are scum and killing them would be a pleasure.

I was truly incel in America. No American woman wanted anything to do with me. I was just too moral and intelligent to be tolerated by evil moronic American culture.

There is nothing wrong with me. I married abroad and have been successful in life by all traditional measures.

[fschmidt]

I'm not sure if it's just that... but if you are a clean-cut dude who doesn't drink or party and dresses conservatively, acts conservatively, it may be an issue unless you live in some Mormon stronghold in Utah because young women would perceive you as 'boring' for being, in actuality, stable. However I still think a man who is both moral as well as intelligent can get a woman provided he has enough money while he is still in the US. Did you only rach financial success after you left the US or before?

I only became successful after being married. I think intelligence was at least as big an issue. That causes behavior that normal people don't understand which is called "eccentric" in a civilized society but is considered "weird" in a degenerate society.

Your wife, she was from a traditional/conservative family background in Mexico?

Yes

[Cornfed]

I think the problem is their social awkwardness, deep-seated insecurities and overall cluelessness about life, in most cases.

No, the problem is that the government pays females not to be in a relationship or have sex with them.

[Cornfed]

No, the problem is that the government pays females not to be in a relationship or have sex with them.

Why does the government have to pay for whores to have sex with them when other men are able to make those whores sleep with them for free?

I don't recall saying the government should have to pay for whores to have sex with men. It should just stop spending most of its resources stealing from good men and using the proceeds to pay females not to have sex with said good men. As to the nonsense about inspiring desire, whether people desire you as a sex mate or employee or whatever is largely down to objective criteria beyond your control and this is in and of itself a good thing - it is just a shame that evil Western regimes skew the market. We have discussed this issue plenty over the years but your seem to want to go back to square one.

[fschmidt]

Just out of curiosity, what were your eccentricities that people didn't appreciate or caused you to be an outcast at the time?

I don't know exactly but they certainly weren't very big. I got along fine with men (before America completely degenerated) and did fine in business. I just was't an average moron which made me somewhat different.

It could be that the fact that you had gotten married to an attractive and moral foreign woman boosted your confidence to the point where your subsequent business dealings worked out better in your favor. It's a bit of a vicious cycle.

The vicious cycle was quite simple. I was too depressed when I was single to do business.

Anyway, the point is that incel in America was real. The 2 other intelligent men that I knew were also incel. American culture should be exterminated for the good of the human gene pool.

[Cornfed]

Or maybe they simply have shit genes... no matter how much the government would encourage women to marry good men, if a man is short, ugly, fat and autistic she would not like to reproduce with such a man for fear of having low quality offspring. And I cannot blame a woman for being, at least partially, driven by evolutionary desires. Incel men who think the government ought to forcibly override evolutionary sexual preferences for the sake of getting their dicks wet are delusionary, that's my point.

What the hell are you talking about? The situation is not that a few men are missing out. It is that about 10% of male dirtbags are getting all the sex while most men are not. This is due to government policy allowing females to marry the government. Here is an old thread on the subject:
viewtopic.php?t=20929

[Cornfed]

What the hell are you talking about? The situation is not that a few men are missing out. It is that about 10% of male dirtbags are getting all the sex while most men are not. This is due to government policy allowing females to marry the government. Here is an old thread on the subject:
viewtopic.php?t=20929

I don't think the 10% figure is anywhere near realistic. I grew up in the Western world, in a Western country and myself and every single one of my friends got laid at some point in their teenage or college years. Those who had less luck were less attractive or were seen generally as 'odd' by their peers. None of us are, to my knowledge, 'dirtbags' nor were we particularly immoral, drug addicts, aggressive fraternity types, dealers, whatever... just regular dudes.

Maybe in America this is different but from what I understand you aren't even from America, Cornfed (your accent in the interview with that Muslim surely didn't sound American) so it may also be different in whatever Anglo country you hail from.

I don't think 10% of men are hogging up all the sex. I can believe easily that the 10% of the most attractive, social, outgoing and/or high status men get laid significantly more often and with greater ease than the average guy. But the other 90% aren't sexless either, if they were society would pretty much be on the brink of collapse and as dire as things my seem, I don't think we're quite there yet.

I'm talking about the general situation in the West. Of course there will be different isolated places that are different. Society is on the brink of collapse.

[Shemp]

Most "incels" are "volcels". In particular, most men in America can scrape together enough to buy a prostitute. About $200/hour for decent looking girls in flyover country (Texas, etc), less for skanks at truck stops. Even guys on minimum wage can afford that a few times a year, just to see what all the fuss is about real sex versus masturbation.

Incels are not hurting for lack of orgasms, which are easy for 99% of men to obtain via masturbation, nor for physical touch, which they can get from petting a dog or wresting and other martial arts with men, nor for communication with other humans, which can be obtained in internet forums. What they are mostly hurting for is female validation. They need an "attractive" woman to find them attractive, but then they sabotage themselves by deciding that any woman who does find then attractive must herself be unattractive, so her attraction to them doesn't count. "I don't want to be a member of any club that would accept a man like me as a member," as Groucho Marx joked.

Inceldom is a result of inner conflicts. On the one hand, it's natural for young men to want to mate. On the other hand, mating in the West is among the worst things a young man can do in terms of screwing up his future potential for happiness. Only getting involved with crime or wrecking his health are worse. MGTOW really is the smart thing to do, fur men living in developed western countries, but MGTOW is not easy to accept, without a lot of bitterness, when you are young, dumb and full of cum. Incel is a way to effectively be MGTOW without making the necessary mental adjustments to be a non-bitter MGTOW. In my experience, only older guys, like me and Yohan, can be non-bitter MGTOW. Younger guys all have to play mind games on themselves to justify avoiding women. Inceldom is one such mind game.

Biggest enemy of incels is men like Marcos plus PUAs, who tell incels that getting laid is all that matters in life and men who don't get laid are worthless failures as humans, etc, etc. Biggest friends are mature MGTOWs like me and Yohan, who explain clearly that real sex is just a bodily function like picking the nose or taking a shit, and nothing to boast about because you pick your nose more than some other guy or take bigger shits, and yes real sex is enjoyable, but it's also expensive and dangerous in the west. Much safer, cheaper and simpler to go MGTOW, with occasional sex vacations to places where prostitution is cheap and legal. Get human connection from internet forums or from other men and older women in real life.

[Cornfed]

Most "incels" are "volcels".

Yes of course, but that's not the point. It is not that they (well, we, to a larger extent) can't rape females, prey on underaged girls, f**k toothless crones, even live with and f**k nice post-wall middle-aged women or pay extortionate prices for hookers. It is that they/we don't want to do any of that. They want the deal of the ages that they were promised when growing up. That is what any normal, sane society would be set up to provide them, whereas this dystopia is doing everything in its power to deny them it.