I was a GOD in The Philippines!

[Winston]

I meant i misunderstood alex about the term flukes. I was thinking of will n dowd when i said hundreds of times. Alex may have thought of mauricio. It was a misunderstanding between me and alex.

If will n dowd deceived these girls by making them think theyd get paid later then wouldnt they not give him sex a second time? How does he get repeat sex hundreds of times? Plus in a small town like Davao wouldn't word about him get around fast?

Btw most filipina bar girls, believe it or not, prefer their shack over a luxury hotel room. No joke. After sex they prefer going back to sleep in their shack with no air con than a mans nice hotel room. Most of them say that because they care more about familiarity than comfort and they have all their hair and shower supplies and pajamas at home too. Its sad they think that way.

[hypermak]

What you think @MarcosZeitola and @hypermak and @WorldTraveler?

Again, I don't know Will N Down, I don't know how he looks like and what he does to approach his girls. Does he live in Manila? Is he a tourist or he has a legit job here? How old is he?

I don't want to sound boastful here but I never made a secret that I have never paid to have s*x here in the Philippines. I think being relatively young (20s to 30s) and decent looking, in good shape and come across as a "legit" expat (e.g. not a "sexpat") makes a lot of difference. Most of the girls I met here are working in the same resort I work for, or elsewhere in the Entertainment City complex. My first 6 months here were absolutely crazy. Then this lockdown made me appreciate the benefits of a steady relationship with a Filipina.

I have been with K since the beginning of July and haven't had s*x with anybody else ever since. She is half-Japanese and she works at a resort nearby. She has everything I have ever needed in a woman: gorgeous face, curvaceous body, a very high sex drive and she never even once popped the question of where our "relationship" is going. She likes to enjoy the moment together and, honestly, so do I.

There is a lot of mythology surrounding Filipinas. Reality is that most Filipinas want exactly what most Western girls want. If they are working, independent and live away their family home, you will find that they want exactly what any other girl in the same situation wants: sometimes a relationship, sometimes mindless fun, sometimes a bit of both. Some of them will like to be monogamous, some other like to be naughty and even have sex with another man while their bfs/husbands are watching.

For all the stereotypes of Filipinas being Christian and traditional, I have found girls who are more honest to their emotional and sexual needs than most women in Italy, or the UK (Malta is Catholic but as traditional as a Muslim country, so it's a different case). That's what fascinates me to no end, about this country. An endless supply of independent young women who just want to enjoy sex with a decent looking, decently endowed man, no ifs no buts!

About paying, there is obviously a lot of girls who are into that kind of lifestyle. Before the lockdown I have seen absolutely hordes of them with their clients from here, from China, Korea, Japan, sometimes some middle-eastern or slavic country. Those girls usually cater for a very specific type of clientele: men in their 40s, 50s or 60s who want to parade themselves with a hottie half or a third their age, dressed to impress, and head straight to the bedroom. Sometimes they play in the casino, sometimes they dine but the "beef" of transaction is always very clear.

I can imagine that some men, especially Asian and middle-eastern, like to have them as a proof of their wealth. "I will pay her because I can". We have at least one member here (we all know who he is ) who follows this predicament. Reality is: these girls may on average have more disposable cash and take more care of themselves than the average working FIlipina. This doesn't mean they are genuinely more beautiful, more intelligent, engaging and passionate than the average working Filipina. They're just girls who made a choice and live with its consequences on a daily basis.

Based on what I saw and know, I would say the Philippines caters for all sort of types of men. The wealthy or nouveau riche will always find plenty of hot girls to show off and enjoy. Those who don't want to or don't have to pay, will find an equally endless supply of equally good looking and smart girls to enjoy and potentially start a long term relationship with.

I really don't understand you, @Winston, when you say that you never got laid without paying. Perhaps it's because you have only been to Angeles City and other red light districts where bargirls are virtually the only girl types you will find. If you hang around normal environments, like a professional workplace or even a college, I believe you will find plenty of girls who not only don't want to accept money for sex, but would be disgusted and offended at the idea. Kind of the same thing I told "that other poster" about his Ukranian shenanigans...

[yick]

I meant i misunderstood alex about the term flukes. I was thinking of will n dowd when i said hundreds of times. Alex may have thought of mauricio. It was a misunderstanding between me and alex.

If will n dowd deceived these girls by making them think theyd get paid later then wouldnt they not give him sex a second time? How does he get repeat sex hundreds of times? Plus in a small town like Davao wouldn't word about him get around fast?

Loads of women I suppose and he probably has connections if he is telling the truth about being in the 'modelling business' he might not get seconds or thirds with a lot of them but some ladies will probably try a 'battering ram' approach.

Either way, 1/10th truth and 9/10th's fantasy land bullshit - he is probably having lots of sex but he is paying for it directly or indirectly, lying to them and using his perceived wealth to con these women to drop their panties without any upfront compensation.

And word would get round fast, but then again, women have this thing about taming bad behaviour of men with grounds for potential. Some will be dumb enough to go back again and again.

[Winston]

Hypermak,
Why dont u show me in manila where these girls are who give sex for free and are plentiful for western guys who dont wanna pay? Lol. No excuses ok?

If its so easy to get free sex why would anyone pay for it? I dont get it. Makes no sense.

Sounds like locker room talk. Id like to see it for real. Id pay if u could show me proof that a western guy can get lots of free sex in manila or wherever.

Plus the p4p girls in manila want even MORE money than in angeles. Manila prices are higher. Go to LA Cafe in ermita and see.

[yick]

@hypermak is obviously talking about getting a girlfriend in Manila and having a long-term relationship! Where sex will come with the relationship.

[hypermak]

@hypermak is obviously talking about getting a girlfriend in Manila and having a long-term relationship! Where sex will come with the relationship.

Well, I am not a bastard who tells girls he is going to marry them to extract sex, then leave them disappointed and broken hearted. I usually say that a relationship is always on the table, but both of us need to get to know each other (physically, included) and if both of us are ready, it might happen.

By the way, it's another myth that "relationship talks" are an aphrodisiac. I had at least one young woman literally push me into my room and initiate some of the most steamy sex I can remember. Lots of Filipinas, especially the working, independe types, can be quite brash with their needs and wants. Believe me, a good 50% of the time they don't even have a passing idea of a relationship.

[hypermak]

Hypermak,
Why dont u show me in manila where these girls are who give sex for free and are plentiful for western guys who dont wanna pay? Lol. No excuses ok?

If its so easy to get free sex why would anyone pay for it? I dont get it. Makes no sense.

Sounds like locker room talk. Id like to see it for real. Id pay if u could show me proof that a western guy can get lots of free sex in manila or wherever.

Plus the p4p girls in manila want even MORE money than in angeles. Manila prices are higher. Go to LA Cafe in ermita and see.

Well, any place that is not a red light district would do. Do you have any network here in Manila? Maybe some former colleagues if you worked here, or some male friends whose barkada you can hang out with.

[yick]

@hypermak is obviously talking about getting a girlfriend in Manila and having a long-term relationship! Where sex will come with the relationship.

Well, I am not a bastard who tells girls he is going to marry them to extract sex, then leave them disappointed and broken hearted. I usually say that a relationship is always on the table, but both of us need to get to know each other (physically, included) and if both of us are ready, it might happen.

By the way, it's another myth that "relationship talks" are an aphrodisiac. I had at least one young woman literally push me into my room and initiate some of the most steamy sex I can remember. Lots of Filipinas, especially the working, independe types, can be quite brash with their needs and wants. Believe me, a good 50% of the time they don't even have a passing idea of a relationship.

I am in the wrong bloody country by the sounds of it!

[Spencer]

Hypermak,
Why dont u show me in manila where these girls are who give sex for free and are plentiful for western guys who dont wanna pay? Lol. No excuses ok?

If its so easy to get free sex why would anyone pay for it? I dont get it. Makes no sense.

Sounds like locker room talk. Id like to see it for real. Id pay if u could show me proof that a western guy can get lots of free sex in manila or wherever.

Plus the p4p girls in manila want even MORE money than in angeles. Manila prices are higher. Go to LA Cafe in ermita and see.

Wiseton make so so great idea here for if to pay not to pay the most big contversy of 21 st censuryman hoy hoy

wiseton when will locking down finish meet the hyper in manila and spend few days for tours

but hyper not exist hoy hoy and truth be public duende make the fictionman so much over exagrating his dreamman have no realman like in all the philipin

be 100% sure for surity that you bossman wiseton will never ever in 1 thousands years meet hyper video hyper or talk voice hyper but hyper no problem for make text chatings with wiseton so dear aborders what does that deduction in your logic minds if you not have the intuition empath for feel truth like any and all wiseman have

ask hyper for make the plan and see he flake off he can meet public duende in person but not you wiseton and talk you on chat but any but any means for sho proofing he have 101 exusings for why can not so try and it will come to pass i kno truth as truthing truther and that is my joby for get wiseton back and serve as servant

[Spencer]

@hypermak is obviously talking about getting a girlfriend in Manila and having a long-term relationship! Where sex will come with the relationship.

Well, I am not a bastard who tells girls he is going to marry them to extract sex, then leave them disappointed and broken hearted. I usually say that a relationship is always on the table, but both of us need to get to know each other (physically, included) and if both of us are ready, it might happen.

By the way, it's another myth that "relationship talks" are an aphrodisiac. I had at least one young woman literally push me into my room and initiate some of the most steamy sex I can remember. Lots of Filipinas, especially the working, independe types, can be quite brash with their needs and wants. Believe me, a good 50% of the time they don't even have a passing idea of a relationship.

I am in the wrong bloody country by the sounds of it!

Refrain from overexcite on mantalk for i promise to garanteee 100% hyper is but a 2 dimension myth for public duende not try hard make caracicature credble dont buy and same wellendowment unlessing you like go cheapygirl

look round asia look so hard round where all the white godman with hoty asiagirl for this your unicorn for whiteman get asiagirl yes yes but lo status or if luckycharmman then averaging asiagirl is the best but for we see even the china serpzeta doctora is divorciado so not unflawed and serpzeta minor celebman and girl same aging to him

cheapy charly girl left right center fall your lap in the poorman asia difrent that chinaland so if you eyes not see good already then time for go philipin live up folow the wellendowman same public duende do when ditch wifey almost 10 year go hoy hoy

[yick]

@hypermak is obviously talking about getting a girlfriend in Manila and having a long-term relationship! Where sex will come with the relationship.

Well, I am not a bastard who tells girls he is going to marry them to extract sex, then leave them disappointed and broken hearted. I usually say that a relationship is always on the table, but both of us need to get to know each other (physically, included) and if both of us are ready, it might happen.

By the way, it's another myth that "relationship talks" are an aphrodisiac. I had at least one young woman literally push me into my room and initiate some of the most steamy sex I can remember. Lots of Filipinas, especially the working, independe types, can be quite brash with their needs and wants. Believe me, a good 50% of the time they don't even have a passing idea of a relationship.

I am in the wrong bloody country by the sounds of it!

Refrain from overexcite on mantalk for i promise to garanteee 100% hyper is but a 2 dimension myth for public duende not try hard make caracicature credble dont buy and same wellendowment unlessing you like go cheapygirl

look round asia look so hard round where all the white godman with hoty asiagirl for this your unicorn for whiteman get asiagirl yes yes but lo status or if luckycharmman then averaging asiagirl is the best but for we see even the china serpzeta doctora is divorciado so not unflawed and serpzeta minor celebman and girl same aging to him

cheapy charly girl left right center fall your lap in the poorman asia difrent that chinaland so if you eyes not see good already then time for go philipin live up folow the wellendowman same public duende do when ditch wifey almost 10 year go hoy hoy

It made me laugh, thanks!

[Winston]

Hypermak,
Why dont u show me in manila where these girls are who give sex for free and are plentiful for western guys who dont wanna pay? Lol. No excuses ok?

If its so easy to get free sex why would anyone pay for it? I dont get it. Makes no sense.

Sounds like locker room talk. Id like to see it for real. Id pay if u could show me proof that a western guy can get lots of free sex in manila or wherever.

Plus the p4p girls in manila want even MORE money than in angeles. Manila prices are higher. Go to LA Cafe in ermita and see.

Well, any place that is not a red light district would do. Do you have any network here in Manila? Maybe some former colleagues if you worked here, or some male friends whose barkada you can hang out with.

Thats not what expats tell me. They say angeles is the easiest to get sex but u gotta pay. If u go to the provinces girls are more conservative and not easy. Rock says unless hes in red light areas filipinos ignore him and are cliquish just like taiwanese. So go figure. Thats what i hear from expats in general. They say the opposite of what you say. Basic logic also says that if its easy to get laid outside of Angeles city than every guy would go into manila and random provinces and get laid for free. So that doesnt add up.

The thing about manila is that western men hate it and avoid it, for obvious reasons that are understandable. So the millions of girls there have no choices if they want foreign men. They only have guys like rock and hypermak and publicduende, etc. So the few western men in manila get their pick of the bunch. That makes sense.

However ive been to manila many times and never seen an opportunity to get laid for free with a normal girl. I got laid a few times from LA cafe in ermita but thats a p4p area and the girls there expect to get paid even if they are too shy to ask for it.

[Winston]

Btw yick,
I asked rock about will n dowd, because they've met before in Davao and rock said that will n dowd does not have a fancy apartment but is in fact a super frugal minimalist. See below.

Rock:

"Will N. Dowd is living a very simple and narrow life. He's a master minimalist and is very focused. He cooks his own food and tries to stay healthy though I don't know whether or not he exercises. Some of his girls are really gross though. He has to make that money last the rest of his life. If he spends too quickly, he'll be flippin burgers at 60 to survive. Inflation is a reality and he may live to 80 or 90."

Wow. For someone with almost a million dollars in assets, as he told me, thats odd isnt it? He said he has 500k Canadian in property and several hundred thousand in cash saved up.

Rock also said that will n dowd dates the bottom of the barrel. And that even publicduende would never touch some of his girls. Lol. See below.

Rock:

"Well I know more about the above. I met Will N. Dowd a few times. Eventually he got angry at me because a shared the forum with a girl I know there who knows one of his girls. As you know Winston, I used to share your forum and story with a lot of Filipinas because I find it kinda funny. And they get to know you through it.

Public Duende does own a condo in Davao. He bought it from Aeon like 7 years ago and it only recently got finished. There's a press clip of him receiving the key online. I warned him long ago to buy from Ayala (they have a nearby building) because new developers have a lot of problems. Indeed finished the project 3-4 years behind schedule and even had a beef with mayor about their crane being too high. Well better late than never I guess. I think his condo is pretty big like maybe 60 sq meters so maybe based on 100-200K per sq meter, it's 6-12 million. It might not be easy to sell though. As for rent, I don't know but maybe he could get 30-40K per month less expenses and dues. Remember, Public Duende is a software guy and made good money back when he worked in London. He had a house somewhere in UK that he sold back when he and his wife split so he might have used that money to buy the Davao condo.

I don't think Will N. Dowd is a liar. He's about 6'1", slim and fit, well-groomed, and meticulous about personal hygiene. He has all of his hair too. I can tell when he was younger that he had an attractive face but when I met him, he was already a bit over 40 and I could tell his age somehow. By now he's mid-late 40s and even if he hasn't aged much, he's clearly middle aged.

Like many white guys, he's pretty delusional about asian female beauty. Even Public Duende told me he wouldn't touch Will N. Dowd's girls. In one of Filipina Pia's videos where she talks to a lawyer, a guest comes on near the end who is around a 22 year old Filipina who had a child with a 64 year old white dude who then bailed on her. She reminds me of the type of girls I saw Will N. Dowd with, both his dates and photos he showed me. Thus, he's going for low-rent and bottom of barrel types, not the ones Public Duende wanted but couldn't get in Davao. A lot of these girls, if you play them right, will sleep with you for free. They are desperate and can only hope you will take a liking to them and make them your girlfriend or wife later. Will will tell them it's only for short term but I think many still hope for more. As for Will's pecker size, no he never showed me lol. So understand, it's all about quality. You may be able to get plenty of Filipina freebies if you stick with white guy girls and don't care about quality."

[hypermak]

Thats not what expats tell me. They say angeles is the easiest to get sex but u gotta pay. If u go to the provinces girls are more conservative and not easy. Rock says unless hes in red light areas filipinos ignore him and are cliquish just like taiwanese. So go figure. Thats what i hear from expats in general. They say the opposite of what you say. Basic logic also says that if its easy to get laid outside of Angeles city than every guy would go into manila and random provinces and get laid for free. So that doesnt add up.

The thing about manila is that western men hate it and avoid it, for obvious reasons that are understandable. So the millions of girls there have no choices if they want foreign men. They only have guys like rock and hypermak and publicduende, etc. So the few western men in manila get their pick of the bunch. That makes sense.

However ive been to manila many times and never seen an opportunity to get laid for free with a normal girl. I got laid a few times from LA cafe in ermita but thats a p4p area and the girls there expect to get paid even if they are too shy to ask for it.

Paying for sex and finding a girl who will enjoy sex with you for free, for not more than a gentleman's night out, are two very different experiences. I don't think you can compare the two. I know of foreign men in their 50s and even 60s who have no problem finding Filipino women to have one night stands with, or fubu relationships. They might not all be young and hot, sometimes they are separated moms or widows in their late 30s or 40s, but decent and available they are.

I have no idea why Rock gets ignored unless he goes to red light districts. How old is he? How does he look like? How does he approach girls? Where I work and live is full of foreigners, from tourists who are passing by to expats who have a 3-year contract. I have been speaking to quite a few of them, especially in the past few months, and I never heard anyone complaining that they have trouble getting laid. Then again, I didn't ask them specifically "how they manage to get laid" because it looks obvious to all of us in the conversation.

I am not working much at the moment and, if we didn't have a lockdown for Metro Manila, I would be happy to explore the province and meet other girls there. I might be able to verify or disprove what you say. I am not in that position, yet, unfortunately.

It's true what you say that, in these times of strict lockdown, the number of foreigners residing here is probably 20% or 30% of what used to be and those girls who are keen to hook up with a foreigner will have less choice. I even wrote about it a while ago (viewtopic.php?style=1&p=342472#p342472).

Before the lockdown, though, not so much. In normal times Manila is actually packed with foreigners. Yes, it's mostly chaotic, dirty, unsanitary and unsafe but several areas are first-class and look like Singapore or New York. Foreigners who want a lifestyle similar to their home countries tend to live in condos in Makati, Mandaluyong and Pasig, Pasay and a few other areas. The luckier ones live in huge, plush houses in gated compounds in the same areas.

I might have gotten it all wrong but, as far I have seen, it does seem like it's one of Asia's (if not the world's) sex playground. So that men hate Manila and purposely avoid it, it doesn't really ring a bell. Perhaps you mean those men who are looking for a simpler, quieter and cheaper life with their chosen Filipina? For those I would say yes, Manila would be their nemesis!

I don't know. Have you tried contacting girls on a dating site or casual dating app like Tinder? From what I have seen so far, Manila girls are usually more independent, more open-minded and often kinkier but, being more similar to, say, Western girls, they probably have somewhat higher standards.

On the other side, Manila also have a huge number of desperate girls who, if they have a job at all, can barely scrape by, they live in crappy dormitories and are barely able to survive and send a couple thousand pesos a month to their families. I would assume those girls have very similar motives to hook up with a foreigner as the poor girls from the provinces. I have never actually dated any girl belonging to this second category but I can imagine that, if you really wanted to try with one of them, they would probably make it very clear from the beginning, that they are looking for a man who can save them, not just mindless fun.

[Winston]

Hypermak,
You seem to keep misunderstanding me all the time, just like publicduende did, lol, which makes me have to clarify and repeat things. What I said has nothing to do with the lockdown. All western men hate Manila, even Filipinos hate it. I don't know even one western expat that likes Manila. It's the most f***ed up city in Asia and takes hours to get anywhere and always full of traffic and pollution and is ugly too. And it drains you to be there for more than a day. No one likes it. Even Filipinos don't like to live there unless they have no choice. This was true long ago, and has nothing to do with any lockdown or pandemic. You are twisting things again. lol. Why?

Rock meant that middle class Filipinos ignore him and strangers don't talk to him, because middle class Filipinos are cliquish and don't talk to strangers. But he gets dates from dating sites. Not through cold approach. Most of his girls are chubby, but a few are good looking. He lives in a nice area in Makati so that gives him a lot of points.

I don't think most guys cold approach. Very few guys do that. Most guys aren't good at that kind of stuff. Get real. Most guys do not use PUA or anything like that. So I don't think the majority of men are getting laid a lot. Most men don't like dating lots of girls, they prefer one at a time. Most guys aren't playboys. They are simple with simple needs. Most men are not counting their conquests either, like notches on a bed post. That's very juvenile behavior, most normal men don't do that. So your image that most expats are living like Hugh Heffner, I think is very exaggerated. The average man is simple and down to earth.

Most men with Filipina girlfriends also have to support them with an allowance of some sort. That's common knowledge in the expat community. In a sense, paying for an allowance is similar to paying for sex. It's not that different except an allowance is monthly. Every single expat I've seen with a Filipina girlfriend has to support her with some allowance payment. It's also expected in Philippines culture because we are seen as Santa Clauses who are here to give, give, give.

Looks aren't as big a deal as you and Will N Dowd claim. Even if you're good looking, if a girl doesn't feel any chemistry or energy for you, then your handsome face won't matter. Dianne has been courted by lots of tall handsome men, but she didn't "feel anything" for them nor did she like their personality, either they drank too much or were too cold, had bad tempers, etc. So it's not that simple as "handsome face = easy free sex and love". It doesn't work that way. Especially with smarter Filipinas. Maybe the dumbest girls don't care and will bang any guy. But not the girls who are discriminating and particular, like Dianne for example. Dianne would not like Will N Dowd just because he looks handsome or tall. No way. It's not that simple at all. Dianne isn't gonna like someone unless that person has a GOOD VIBE too, good looks is not enough. That's smart.

You see, women need to feel the right chemistry and energy to love a guy or have feelings for him. A handsome face is not enough. A handsome guy gets rejected too, if the girls have no feeling for him or dislike his personality or vibe or doesn't vibe with him. You know what I mean? That's why what Will N Dowd says doesn't make sense. Women aren't that simple. There are many intangible factors involved in love, feelings and attraction, than just a handsome face and nice male body. I'm sure you all know that.

The thing is hypermak, when you say that getting sex for free is easy for any guy in Manila, that's like saying this:

"Making money is easy. You don't need to work or get a job. There are ways to get free money without working. You can choose to work for money too, or you can get it for free."

Of course that is an illogical statement, because of course, if money were easy, no one would be poor and no one would need to get a job. Basic logic. What you say though is something similar when you say:

"Free sex is easy and available in Manila and in the Philippines. You can pay for it, but you don't have to. It's easy to get free sex too."

Do you see the similarity? Your statement makes no sense either, for the same reason. If something was free, no one would pay for it. Simple logic. Angeles City would not exist and be a hot spot for expats and tourists, if what you claim was actually true.

I hope @yick and @Spencer can understand the simple logic of it. It's not rocket science. It's very simple and common sense. So what you say "does not compute", as Data or Spock or Star Trek androids would say. lol

Also, you refuse to meet up, so I cannot know if anything you say is true or not. I cannot verify anything, including your identity since you refuse to webcam or skype with me, even though you have nothing to lose.

Also keep in mind that many guys claim to get laid easily, however once I look into their claims, most of the time, the turn out to be BSing me.

In addition, I've also met many guys who say "I never pay for sex" but when I see them in Angeles, they do end up paying after all.

So what men say and what they do, often is very different. That's been my experience. That's why I have to take all anonymous claims on here with a grain of salt. Hope you understand. If you were in my shoes, I'm sure you'd do the same. Not saying you are dishonest hypermak. I don't know you. Just saying the above has been my real life experience. I've caught many liars and BSers for sure, with stories that didn't add up and no evidence to support their claims and only empty air when asked for evidence or demonstrations.