Banning and Warning Announcements

[Light]

Is Tsar unbanned or is it permanent like PAG?

[Winston]

Tsar was only banned for 3 days. It says in the announcement above.

[Spencer]

Announcement:

Democracy has prevailed! PAG aka Italianman has been BANNED finally!

Reason shown to the banned: Being a troll and disruptive, starting flame wars, calling other posters a pedofile, slandering others, spreading lies, calling yourself Italian when you are not.

You guys can now celebrate and break out the champagne! lol

For now, I'm going to move the libelous threads against MarcosZeitola to the NSFW board. Unless Marcos, you prefer that I delete them?

From now on guys, please stop posting flame war threads. They drive everyone into the mud and nothing good comes from it. They also bring down the quality of the forum and lower our consciousness to low frequency too.

To @Spencer: Many people want you banned too, and for good reason. You may not be PAG. I disagree with others on that. However, you keep writing gibberish English and engaging in flame wars and useless bashing. Please stop. I'll give you one more chance. Please write NORMAL English from now on. No one likes the gibberish posts. It doesn't seem to be funny to anyone. Also stop bashing people and inciting flame wars. Start posting something of substance. Improve the quality of your posts. Post something intelligent, useful, or insightful. You have one week to comply. Hope you comply. I don't like banning people, but we gotta do some clean up around here, so I'm not asking a lot when I ask you to clean up your posts. Thanks for understanding.

To @Tsar: You also need to stop posting stuff about underaged girls and other taboo topics. You also start too many frivolous threads for every little questions. Please consolidate your questions into one thread. Otherwise you will be temporarily banned. Thanks.

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[Winston]

ATTENTION AND ANNOUNCEMENT:

From now on guys, please do NOT enter a forum thread just to ridicule or insult someone while adding no substance or value or good content. If you have nothing useful or interesting or relevant to say, then don't say it. Refrain from saying anything. I'm not saying that every post has to be positive, but unnecessary insults alone just to be a prick are unnecessary and bad for any forum. You can think whatever garbage you want, but please don't pollute the forum with garbage content in the forum of cheap insults, put downs, bashing, etc. That is a form of trolling, heckling and bullying. It degrades the forum and makes it look like a trash can. Please don't do that. Especially mean spirited posters like @Guhji and @Man With a Plan have been doing that. They need to STOP and shape up. It's highly negative and toxic and results in nothing good. They need to learn to vent their misery in more healthy ways than this.

If any more of this continues, violators will be issued warnings and then bans or temporary bans, depending on the situation and context.

Thanks for your attention.

Admin

[Man With a Plan]

Translation: Winston is butthurt that I dared to disagree with him, so he issued a "warning" (lmao) to remove some of the burn.

Word of advice, Winston. Your forum really isn't important or special, and the only value it generates is the few members who have common sense and mental/emotional stability. Most of the users here--yourself included--lack that. The fact that you've let the forum continue as a cesspool for YEARS while banning a few "trolls" proves that. You didn't ban Cornfed or Ghost, or that South African Rhodesian loser, despite their constant racial bickering. Yet you "warn" (again, lmao) me for disagreeing with your holier-than-thou assessment of yourself. That says more about you than anything.

You can ban me, bro. It really isn't that serious. I can easily rejoin and even then, I'm here to network with the few gems of this community and I've done so successfully. If you want me to be a yes-man like fschmidt, jamesbond, Taco and all them, I've got bad news for you. If I disagree with you or anyone else, I WILL make it known. When people disagree, they, sometimes, speak on their disagreement. Welcome to the world. This is how it works.

[Spencer]

Translation: Winston is butthurt that I dared to disagree with him, so he issued a "warning" (lmao) to remove some of the burn.

Word of advice, Winston. Your forum really isn't important or special, and the only value it generates is the few members who have common sense and mental/emotional stability. Most of the users here--yourself included--lack that. The fact that you've let the forum continue as a cesspool for YEARS while banning a few "trolls" proves that. You didn't ban Cornfed or Ghost, or that South African Rhodesian loser, despite their constant racial bickering. Yet you "warn" (again, lmao) me for disagreeing with your holier-than-thou assessment of yourself. That says more about you than anything.

You can ban me, bro. It really isn't that serious. I can easily rejoin and even then, I'm here to network with the few gems of this community and I've done so successfully. If you want me to be a yes-man like fschmidt, jamesbond, Taco and all them, I've got bad news for you. If I disagree with you or anyone else, I WILL make it known. When people disagree, they, sometimes, speak on their disagreement. Welcome to the world. This is how it works.

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[jerryrigged]

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[Winston]

Translation: Winston is butthurt that I dared to disagree with him, so he issued a "warning" (lmao) to remove some of the burn.

Word of advice, Winston. Your forum really isn't important or special, and the only value it generates is the few members who have common sense and mental/emotional stability. Most of the users here--yourself included--lack that. The fact that you've let the forum continue as a cesspool for YEARS while banning a few "trolls" proves that. You didn't ban Cornfed or Ghost, or that South African Rhodesian loser, despite their constant racial bickering. Yet you "warn" (again, lmao) me for disagreeing with your holier-than-thou assessment of yourself. That says more about you than anything.

You can ban me, bro. It really isn't that serious. I can easily rejoin and even then, I'm here to network with the few gems of this community and I've done so successfully. If you want me to be a yes-man like fschmidt, jamesbond, Taco and all them, I've got bad news for you. If I disagree with you or anyone else, I WILL make it known. When people disagree, they, sometimes, speak on their disagreement. Welcome to the world. This is how it works.

Stop exaggerating to try to make others look bad. You always exaggerate in the negative, just like Guhji does. It's just as bad as those who overly exaggerate in the positive.

I don't mind disagreement but you throwing nasty shit insults all over the place is uncivilized and downright mean spirited and nasty. There's a difference between that and disagreeing. Don't you know that?

Whether this forum is special or not depends on your opinion and is subjective. Your mother is special to you, but not to us, for example, does that mean she's not special? DUH. If you believe something is special then it is. Is your dog or cat special? lol.

If this forum is not special then why are you here? Because we are more tolerant than others so you can take advantage of it and be nasty to others, of course.

Yes this forum is special to me and others here, because we are one of the few truly free speech forums out there where you can talk about taboo truths no one else dares to say. And there is no political correctness here, but that doesn't mean there aren't standards of civility. Whether or not it's special or not doesn't change that.

Yes I ban very few people, only the most NASTY SCUM get banned here. So if you get banned, that makes YOU one of the worst scum. It says a lot about YOU. Not me.

Why would I ban Ghost or Cornfed? They may be jaded, and Cornfed may be a racist. But they are not bullies who insult every post from every guy just to be a friggin prick.

There's nothing wrong with being a little racist, as long as you are civil about it. David Duke could be described as racist, but in his videos and podcasts he is very polite and civil and is not mean spirited or nasty at all.

Fschmidt is not a yes man. He does not agree with me on everything. He is an independent freethinker and has reactionary views. Taco is not a yes man either. He is a doom and gloom apocalyptic type of naysayer. But he does not agree or applaud everything I say. You are way off in your views.

Again, nothing wrong with disagreeing. But you gotta do it in a civilized gentlemenly manner. Not just attack every random person for no reason like a nasty prick. No one likes that. If you had a forum, would you want someone to come on attack you like a nasty prick? Think about it.

Even if you came back after being banned, you'd still be held to the same FAIR standards of decent behavior. It wouldn't change nothing. So even when PAG comes back, when he becomes a dickhead again, he gets banned again. Very simple.

[Winston]

Translation: Winston is butthurt that I dared to disagree with him, so he issued a "warning" (lmao) to remove some of the burn.

Word of advice, Winston. Your forum really isn't important or special, and the only value it generates is the few members who have common sense and mental/emotional stability. Most of the users here--yourself included--lack that. The fact that you've let the forum continue as a cesspool for YEARS while banning a few "trolls" proves that. You didn't ban Cornfed or Ghost, or that South African Rhodesian loser, despite their constant racial bickering. Yet you "warn" (again, lmao) me for disagreeing with your holier-than-thou assessment of yourself. That says more about you than anything.

You can ban me, bro. It really isn't that serious. I can easily rejoin and even then, I'm here to network with the few gems of this community and I've done so successfully. If you want me to be a yes-man like fschmidt, jamesbond, Taco and all them, I've got bad news for you. If I disagree with you or anyone else, I WILL make it known. When people disagree, they, sometimes, speak on their disagreement. You're almost 60 years old. Welcome to the world. This is how it works.

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Yo @Winston just checking but... didn't you say you would ban Spencer if he didn't stop writing like a retard on purpose? Looks like he hasn't given up his troll-shtick.

Yes but Spencer's post was discernible there. And he was correcting some obvious lies by Man With a Plan. Don't you care if others lie? Isn't honesty important to you?

[Winston]

Wow Marcos. How do you know "Man with a plan" is "Blue murder"? Are their writing styles the same? Are there any clues they are the same guy? Maybe you are a good detective Marcos. What's your view on Publicduende and Hypermak? lol

Well it's kind of like jaywalking Marcos. If you jaywalk occasionally, the police doesn't care. But if you obstruct traffic while doing it and make a scene, then they will take action and fine you for it. That's how the law is in real life. It's not always literal, but more like discretionary. You can break laws if you don't cause a scene, and the cops usually let it go. Especially if it's minor. But once it causes a scene or gets attention or incites others to do the same, then they take action and make an example out of you. So it's discretionary. Nothing is written in stone.

[Winston]

But Marcos, how is Spencer dishonest? He has pleaded the fifth and does not say where he's from, but he does not spread lies either like Blue Murder/Man with a Plan does. Everyone has the right to be anonymous and not reveal their identity and location. They have a right to privacy. He just writes annoying garbled English. But I haven't seen him outright lie or slander anyone.

You may be right about PD and Hypermak. But why do they never post at the same time? Like Clark Kent and Superman, they are never around at the same time. Rock says he is 100 percent sure they are the same, but he is not infallible of course.

One sign that they are not the same guy is that Hypermak said he met up with PD once. If he were trying to pretend to be someone else, he would not have said that. If I were trying to pretend to be someone else, I would not associate myself with my former account. That is giving yourself away. I would pretend not to know the other guy and disassociate myself from him. I wouldn't draw attention to something I was trying to hide. So the logic doesn't add up.

Rock surmises that the reason Hypermak did that was because he accidentally logged in from the same IP as PD. So in order to explain that away, he had to say that he met up with PD and that they shared the same laptop. However, the problem with that is that had he not said anything, I would not have checked his IPs so he was better off saying nothing.

But then again, it's unusual for two guys to meet the first time, and share laptops. That's something you do with an older friend or closer friend. But not with a guy you just met right? So that's a bit hard to explain too. So this appears to be an eternal mystery we will never fully unravel.

What's your take on that?

[yick]

@Winston you said you would ban him the next time he posted in that f***ing weird gobblygook English he writes. He has ignored your polite request, put the ban hammer down on him!

[Shemp]

I suggest reserving banning for members who are disruptive to normal forum message flow.

Man With a Plan is always unpleasant, but he posts infrequently and so is not disruptive. No reason to ban.

Spencer is obviously PAG aka Italianman aka Shawn Blake, but he has been fairly quiet lately. It's only when he posts frequently that he annoys me. If you didn't want to ban him when you banned PAG, no reason to ban now. Whereas if he starts posting too often...

[Spencer]

Yes but Spencer's post was discernible there. And he was correcting some obvious lies by Man With a Plan. Don't you care if others lie? Isn't honesty important to you?

I do care, @Winston... and if you care about it, too, you'd ban Spencer if only for this reason; because he lies about who he is. He knows a lot about members here, going back many years, despite being a new account. He clearly is the alternative identity of another forum member, perhaps a current member, perhaps a banned member like PAG or someone else who used to be a regular. He never once answered any direct questions about who he is, where he is from, how old he is, what his race is, nationality, beliefs, goals, why he is on this site, if he's ever traveled or if he has plans to do so... he is being deliberately vague. Why?

He is vague because... if he says he is from [INSERT COUNTRY] we can discern if he is telling the truth. Does his garbled retard English fit the region or land he claims to be from? He doesn't want to be 'caught' so he stays quiet about this. Try it, try asking him where he's from, ask him some personal information, he won't give it... because he can't. He's a badly thought-out troll-job that has lasted long enough. And just because he agreed with you calling out Man With A Plan doesn't mean Spencer is somehow now a massive nuisance anymore... he is. And he adds nothing of value.

Speaking of "Man With A Plan", Winston, aka "Blue Murder", he is a very argumentative fellow. He seems to like arguing a little too much. If you banned him, not much of value would be lost. So I'm with you there. Although I gotta say, in Blue Murder's defense... he doesn't appear to be a liar. Nor is he overly evasive when asked personal questions... can't say the same for Spencer. He is, without a doubt, a dishonest person. Not just argumentative, but dishonest, too.

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[Winston]

Thats a good point Marcos. My gut feeling is that PD and hypermak are not the same guy too. Their attitude and personality are different.

Plus it takes extra concentration to alter your personality and writing style. Hypermak has posted a lot of posts. So i dont think he would want to do that in every post. Try it yourself and you will see what i mean. You can alter your personality and writing style a bit. But to do so in every post is very taxing and draining and requires extra concentration. I doubt that hypermak would do that.

Plus PD is too blunt and no-nonsense to play games like that. Its not his personality. Hes not a poser type. Even a poser like PAG cannot alter his personality. Every time he comes back he always writes with the same personality and style. He can't hide it.

Thats why i do not think PAG is spencer either. PAG cannot be anything but himself.

There's one person i know who does get off on being different people. That is Rock's old friend Ginger. She had a history of being different people and got off on it. She posted as Jboy too. Shes the only one i know who gets off on that and thus is a suspect. She could be behind Spencer and Daddy Wu.