Interesting info there @MarcosZeitola.MarcosZeitola wrote: ↑August 20th, 2022, 9:31 pmIt's funny how my perspective changed entirely over the years. I've never considered the "flat nose" to be attractive, and in fact my first wife had a 'tall nose' by Filipino standard, more akin to an Indian lady than a Pinay. But her skin was also very dark, and she was short, and as years go by... I sort of gravitated more and more towards the type of ladies local men would fawn over. Paler. Somewhat taller. More delicate features, larger, wider eyes, taller and thinner, sharper noses.ladislav wrote: ↑June 20th, 2022, 11:02 pm
Some Filipinos think our GF's are ugly.
Why do they say that and how do their minds work?
Most Filipino men are not jealous of the "porener" because they think we take their least attractive girls. Some even say that they see us as scavengers picking up what they do not want and marrying their cast offs.
The Pinoy concept of beautiful is pale skin and a thin pointed nose. Kind of like a Latina with porcelain white Chinese skin. A Spanish-Chinese mestiza. That is the paragon for them.
But many 'poreners' prefer a Filipina that looks, well, like a Filipina. That is why they are in the country in the first place. Otherwise, they'd go to Mexico or China.
If literally every foreigner you ever encounter has a darker lady by his side, more of the 'morena type' with more typical Filipino features? It sort of turns me off from it, in a weird way. The whole "housekeeper" stereotype comes into play. You see a local dude next, plain looking Filipino dude, perhaps a little taller and a little more well-off than usual but far from a Brad Pitt... and his girlfriend looks "Mestiza", like an artist, almost. And somehow it planted a little seed in my brain of "I want that, too!"
Strange how the human mind works. Over a year ago, I found myself single all of a sudden. Didn't expect and didn't feel like advertising the fact online, either. Disappeared from this forum for ages. And trying to find the "Filipino ideal" was quite hard, I have to say. Not impossible, as in the end I succeeded, but definitely difficult.
I dated several girls who fit the criteria of "hot by Filipino standards" and I noticed that Filipino guys and girls alike would sort of try to undermine or sabotage me. One even went as far as to chat a girl I courted and tell her all sorts of bad things about me, how I was "a chickboy" and only wanted to bang her, wasn't serious, etcetera... biggest bullshit ever, but it successfully ended things between me and her, which was sad.
It appears as if Filipinos don't mind it if you, as a foreigner "stay in your lane" and date girls that are too dark, too provincial, too short, broke or flat-nosed for them to desire. But once you start dating girls they themselves lust after... they get pissy, and petty, and downright mean-spirited. It was fascinating to see. And more than a little disheartening, actually. It's one of the reasons why I am kind of eager to leave soon.
I've been wondering about that subject too for all South East and East Asian countries: Where do the local men hate us (white men) the least in general, and in particular for those doing the WMAF thing, LOL.
Half the white guys in the so-called "Western" world are bailing to get out, and a lot go to Asia, so I've been wondering. I might end up there at some point, but with a "bring your own women" (non-Asian women) approach to going there (so in theory they'd be less upset with me, LOL), but if things changed and I was over there alone, then I was curious since I'd be on another WMAF spree, but would rather be in a place the men don't give a damn, if there is any such place.
Koreans and Vietnamese struck me as somewhat more masculine and less sissified (so in theory less resentful or worried about foreigners), but I don't know about Filippinos.
It sounds to me like the Pinoy preference for women is pretty much the reverse of what I'd prefer: I'd rather get the pretty dark girls anyway, and also when I did have Asian women was always trying to fatten them up by getting them to eat more food (vs the unnatural skinniness that most Asian men seem to prefer from what I've seen), so the "arbitrage" concept @publicduende mentioned might work in my favor, if I ever end up back on the WMAF bandwagon in one or more of those countries...

Another "arbitrage" point likely working in my favor: If/when with Asian women, I also strongly prefer the more assertive extroverted Asian female personalities (the man-eating tiger women and dragon ladies) vs the submissive types that some of you describe as though they actually need some kind of paternalistic guidance, which is just not my personal cup of tea for a fireball romance. But my point there: A lot of times more traditional Asian men don't want those kinds of assertive or outspoken women I prefer, even if the tiger women are hot, LOL. (Though that doesn't necessarily help curb resentment, since the men might still get mad at the sight of me with a hot dragon woman, even if they wouldn't want to deal with her breathing fire and ripping them a new one in a hodler relationship...)
