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What are some red pill experiences...
- kangarunner
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What are some red pill experiences...
For forum posters here over 30, what are some Red Pill experiences or truths that you are very thankful to have and be aware of?
"The truth will set you free."
I have to admit, I used to be an NPC just living in the matrix completely unaware and going through each day like a robot. And then I got red pilled some time after living abroad.
For me, I'm very thankful to be red pilled about the true nature of America in general and American women. I'm thankful that so many content creators on the Internet and on Youtube are contributing the real red pill truths and propagating this knowledge. Thanks to @Winston for creating this site and his Youtube videos because many people have benefited from his observations and writings. It's like he told me in person, we've all had thoughts about how f***ed up America is but none us were able to put those subconscious thoughts into coherent words.
"The truth will set you free."
I have to admit, I used to be an NPC just living in the matrix completely unaware and going through each day like a robot. And then I got red pilled some time after living abroad.
For me, I'm very thankful to be red pilled about the true nature of America in general and American women. I'm thankful that so many content creators on the Internet and on Youtube are contributing the real red pill truths and propagating this knowledge. Thanks to @Winston for creating this site and his Youtube videos because many people have benefited from his observations and writings. It's like he told me in person, we've all had thoughts about how f***ed up America is but none us were able to put those subconscious thoughts into coherent words.
Favorite Cornfed quote: "Here's another one to reassure you lemmings that the ongoing humiliation ritual that is your ratshit life will soon be coming to an end."
Tsar: "Roastie foids"...."Instead of Happier Abroad more like Escortmaxxing Roasties Abroad"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FNHSiPFtvA
Tsar: "Roastie foids"...."Instead of Happier Abroad more like Escortmaxxing Roasties Abroad"
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Re: What are some red pill experiences...
I don’t really consider myself redpilled, bluepilled or blackpilled. I’m more tradpilled lol in that I believe returning to old ways of living and thinking is the solution to the majority of our problems.
One experience that really left an impression on me in college was having a girl at a party make out with me and then walking over and making out with another guy like 3 seconds later. It was so nasty that it really made me hate the “meat market” feeling of college parties.
The biggest tradpill experiences for me though was 1. Meeting devoutly religious girls at my university and seeing how incredibly different they were from the rest of the students. Religious girls do not behave at all like what the redpill and blackpill teach you about girls. Religious girls radiate warmth and they weren’t interested at all in the frat boys like all the other girls were. Religious girls will actually date a socially awkward, more nerdy guy if they see you as having good moral character. One girl I knew back then, she went to the Mennonite university rather then ours but she dated a guy in our group who was honestly pretty ugly. Definitely awkward and definitely nerdy. According to the redpill/blackpill’s version of reality she should have had no interest in him. She was absolutely drop dead gorgeous too. She was like an 8 and the guy she was dating was a 5 at best.
What this showed me was that culture really makes the biggest difference. A lot of people try to act like all women are the same but I’ve seen several cases in real life that completely fly in the face of everything they say.
The redpill and the blackpill are correct about certain cultures of girls. But it’s not really accurate at all to cultures that really emphasize moral values. In those cultures, girls tend to go for guys they believe have the strongest moral values and principles.
One experience that really left an impression on me in college was having a girl at a party make out with me and then walking over and making out with another guy like 3 seconds later. It was so nasty that it really made me hate the “meat market” feeling of college parties.
The biggest tradpill experiences for me though was 1. Meeting devoutly religious girls at my university and seeing how incredibly different they were from the rest of the students. Religious girls do not behave at all like what the redpill and blackpill teach you about girls. Religious girls radiate warmth and they weren’t interested at all in the frat boys like all the other girls were. Religious girls will actually date a socially awkward, more nerdy guy if they see you as having good moral character. One girl I knew back then, she went to the Mennonite university rather then ours but she dated a guy in our group who was honestly pretty ugly. Definitely awkward and definitely nerdy. According to the redpill/blackpill’s version of reality she should have had no interest in him. She was absolutely drop dead gorgeous too. She was like an 8 and the guy she was dating was a 5 at best.
What this showed me was that culture really makes the biggest difference. A lot of people try to act like all women are the same but I’ve seen several cases in real life that completely fly in the face of everything they say.
The redpill and the blackpill are correct about certain cultures of girls. But it’s not really accurate at all to cultures that really emphasize moral values. In those cultures, girls tend to go for guys they believe have the strongest moral values and principles.
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Re: What are some red pill experiences...
In my experience, progressive girls seem to value looks the most, liberal girls value confidence/social status the most, and conservative/traditional girls tend to be split between valuing morals the most and valuing money/financial stability the most.
In progressive cultures, girls usually approach guys first. If you're a good looking guy but afraid to approach women, you can usually still be relatively successful in progressive environments. On paper, it sounds nice to have an environment where girls usually approach you, but the problem is that nobody is really a winner in progressive environments because there's so much emphasis on short term, noncommittal sex that even if you're a good looking guy, you will struggle to find a long term relationship even if hookups are easy to find. Even if you do find a relationship in progressive environments, there still isn't really any commitment, you are expected to be okay with your girlfriend walking out on you or sleeping with another man at any moment and progressives act like its immoral for a man to desire true commitment. If you're an unattractive or average looking guy, you will really really struggle in progressive environments because there's no way to make up for your looks. You're not really supposed to approach women and using money to attract women is an even bigger no no.
In liberal cultures, guys are expected to approach girls. Liberal environments strongly emphasize men's ability to seduce and "game" women so to speak. Some pretty ugly guys can get girls in liberal environments if they are very confident in their approach. Liberal cultures seem to promote primal sexuality the most out of every culture. If you are afraid to approach women, liberal cultures you will struggle the most in. Liberal cultures are weird though in that, they retain some conservative elements. In liberal cultures, although there's a lot of hooking up and one night stands, you still see long term relationships too and people are generally supposed to be monogamous once they're in a long term relationship. The difference though, is that liberal cultures don't consider infidelity to be a big deal like conservative cultures do. People are allowed to be angry and possessive to some extent but not too much in liberal cultures.
In conservative cultures, I find that there's more of an emphasis on matchmaking, but sometimes guys approach girls, and sometimes girls approach guys too. The more deeply conservative the culture is, the more emphasis there's going to be on matchmaking. For this reason, a lot of what makes you successful with girls in a conservative/traditional culture is the reputation you build in your community. Parents' opinion matters a lot more in conservative cultures then it does in other cultures so generally being the kind of guy that a parent would like lends itself the most to your success. That's why moral values tend to be emphasized in conservative cultures so much is because a big part of what gets you dates in conservative cultures, is being respected by your community enough that people set you up with girls. The emphasis on long term relationships and marriage also means that money tends to matter more to conservative girls. If a conservative girl dates you, her entire future life depends on your earning potential, so a man who makes good money tends to be valued more.
In progressive cultures, girls usually approach guys first. If you're a good looking guy but afraid to approach women, you can usually still be relatively successful in progressive environments. On paper, it sounds nice to have an environment where girls usually approach you, but the problem is that nobody is really a winner in progressive environments because there's so much emphasis on short term, noncommittal sex that even if you're a good looking guy, you will struggle to find a long term relationship even if hookups are easy to find. Even if you do find a relationship in progressive environments, there still isn't really any commitment, you are expected to be okay with your girlfriend walking out on you or sleeping with another man at any moment and progressives act like its immoral for a man to desire true commitment. If you're an unattractive or average looking guy, you will really really struggle in progressive environments because there's no way to make up for your looks. You're not really supposed to approach women and using money to attract women is an even bigger no no.
In liberal cultures, guys are expected to approach girls. Liberal environments strongly emphasize men's ability to seduce and "game" women so to speak. Some pretty ugly guys can get girls in liberal environments if they are very confident in their approach. Liberal cultures seem to promote primal sexuality the most out of every culture. If you are afraid to approach women, liberal cultures you will struggle the most in. Liberal cultures are weird though in that, they retain some conservative elements. In liberal cultures, although there's a lot of hooking up and one night stands, you still see long term relationships too and people are generally supposed to be monogamous once they're in a long term relationship. The difference though, is that liberal cultures don't consider infidelity to be a big deal like conservative cultures do. People are allowed to be angry and possessive to some extent but not too much in liberal cultures.
In conservative cultures, I find that there's more of an emphasis on matchmaking, but sometimes guys approach girls, and sometimes girls approach guys too. The more deeply conservative the culture is, the more emphasis there's going to be on matchmaking. For this reason, a lot of what makes you successful with girls in a conservative/traditional culture is the reputation you build in your community. Parents' opinion matters a lot more in conservative cultures then it does in other cultures so generally being the kind of guy that a parent would like lends itself the most to your success. That's why moral values tend to be emphasized in conservative cultures so much is because a big part of what gets you dates in conservative cultures, is being respected by your community enough that people set you up with girls. The emphasis on long term relationships and marriage also means that money tends to matter more to conservative girls. If a conservative girl dates you, her entire future life depends on your earning potential, so a man who makes good money tends to be valued more.
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Re: What are some red pill experiences...
I dont follow.
If you are talking about the tocix feminism movement then I am on board 100% feminism is a scourge that stops good men like me from finally settling down.
Leftists and Marxism are destroying the culture of European nations as well. So Im red pilled on this shite
But if we are talking about lizard monarchs and living in a computer simulation then you lost me there
If you are talking about the tocix feminism movement then I am on board 100% feminism is a scourge that stops good men like me from finally settling down.
Leftists and Marxism are destroying the culture of European nations as well. So Im red pilled on this shite
But if we are talking about lizard monarchs and living in a computer simulation then you lost me there

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Re: What are some red pill experiences...
They’re not as rare as you think they are. I would agree they are a minority of the female population but I’ve seen more then just one or two exceptions. My own mom is an exception.
- kangarunner
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Re: What are some red pill experiences...
OMG.....
I mean getting red pilled in a way that you're thankful for. A way that allows you to move your life in a better direction than if you were blue-pilled.
For example, I'm thankful to now know the "American dream" is a made up fairy tale. That's red pilled I'm thankful for.
I'm thankful for the 6 years of eye opening experiences while living abroad that showed me that there is another world out there to live in outside of the American mind controlling way of life.
I mean getting red pilled in a way that you're thankful for. A way that allows you to move your life in a better direction than if you were blue-pilled.
For example, I'm thankful to now know the "American dream" is a made up fairy tale. That's red pilled I'm thankful for.
I'm thankful for the 6 years of eye opening experiences while living abroad that showed me that there is another world out there to live in outside of the American mind controlling way of life.
Favorite Cornfed quote: "Here's another one to reassure you lemmings that the ongoing humiliation ritual that is your ratshit life will soon be coming to an end."
Tsar: "Roastie foids"...."Instead of Happier Abroad more like Escortmaxxing Roasties Abroad"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FNHSiPFtvA
Tsar: "Roastie foids"...."Instead of Happier Abroad more like Escortmaxxing Roasties Abroad"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FNHSiPFtvA
Re: What are some red pill experiences...
My first significant experience of life abroad as an adult was when I went to Spain at the age of 18 for immersive language school. I did a homestay program and stayed there the whole summer.kangarunner wrote: ↑September 10th, 2022, 2:04 pmOMG.....
I mean getting red pilled in a way that you're thankful for. A way that allows you to move your life in a better direction than if you were blue-pilled.
For example, I'm thankful to now know the "American dream" is a made up fairy tale. That's red pilled I'm thankful for.
I'm thankful for the 6 years of eye opening experiences while living abroad that showed me that there is another world out there to live in outside of the American mind controlling way of life.
My first red pill experience consisted of a stark realization that not every culture is as antisocial and alienating as that of the UK. That realization was more of a cumulative thing after living immersed in Spanish society over the course of several months rather than a sudden epiphany. During my time in Spain I discovered that people were generally friendlier and more sociable than their Anglo counterparts and that it was much easier to make friends and strike up conversation with strangers. I literally went from being a social misfit in the UK to enjoying a rich social life in Spain. Some people like to think that people are the same everywhere because they're, well, people, but that's simply not true. The behavior and attitudes as well as the level of sociability differ radically across different societies. Culture is everything. I experienced this myself and know it to be true. Many cultures are much less socially toxic than the Anglo nations.
My second red pill experience was a concomitant realization that foreign women are generally much friendlier and less paranoid and misandric than Anglo women. In Spain relations between men and women seemed healthier and more natural than those in the UK. I found that I could have normal social interactions with Spanish and other foreign females, and they didn't give off that paranoid, hostile, antisocial vibe that so many British females give off. I actually felt like I was part of a real cohesive community for the first time. Also, while Iberian Spanish women aren't the most feminine, I met plenty of other foreign females such as Latinas and Continental Europeans who were extremely feminine and possessed a certain charm that almost no British women possess. British women are among the least feminine of all females.
I always intuited that British culture was just completely toxic and that its people were mostly antisocial and without real culture but my stay in Spain confirmed it. Not all cultures are the same. British culture is just bad. The Mediterranean world is much better.
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Re: What are some red pill experiences...
Does Spain have warmer weather? I think warm, sunny weather brings out a more friendly vibe in people. Also, I heard someone say that countries close to the Equator are more social and friendly.Lucas88 wrote: ↑September 12th, 2022, 5:26 amMy first red pill experience consisted of a stark realization that not every culture is as antisocial and alienating as that of the UK. That realization was more of a cumulative thing after living immersed in Spanish society over the course of several months rather than a sudden epiphany. During my time in Spain I discovered that people were generally friendlier and more sociable than their Anglo counterparts and that it was much easier to make friends and strike up conversation with strangers. I literally went from being a social misfit in the UK to enjoying a rich social life in Spain. Some people like to think that people are the same everywhere because they're, well, people, but that's simply not true. The behavior and attitudes as well as the level of sociability differ radically across different societies. Culture is everything. I experienced this myself and know it to be true. Many cultures are much less socially toxic than the Anglo nations.
I had the exact same experience. It was literally shocking when I would go to Colombia and SE Asia and women would talk to me normally without an uptight, bad attitude. Not only that, but they're much better looking. Japanese women and Korean women are a completely different story.Lucas88 wrote: ↑September 12th, 2022, 5:26 amMy second red pill experience was a concomitant realization that foreign women are generally much friendlier and less paranoid and misandric than Anglo women. In Spain relations between men and women seemed healthier and more natural than those in the UK. I found that I could have normal social interactions with Spanish and other foreign females, and they didn't give off that paranoid, hostile, antisocial vibe that so many British females give off.
American women are f***ing awful. Once a man has experienced women in Colombia or SE Asia, it's the difference between drinking tap water and fine wine.
American women win the gold medal for least feminine. All men should be saved from the misery of Western women.
But England does have a lot of great thinkers and artists. I grew up here in TN listening to Bush, Oasis, Prodigy.Lucas88 wrote: ↑September 12th, 2022, 5:26 amI always intuited that British culture was just completely toxic and that its people were mostly antisocial and without real culture but my stay in Spain confirmed it. Not all cultures are the same. British culture is just bad. The Mediterranean world is much better.
By the way my friend from Madrid told me this in Colombia. He said countries that were colonized by the British are well-run and function properly. But countries that were colonized by Spain are corrupt but a lot of fun to party in. Hehe.
Favorite Cornfed quote: "Here's another one to reassure you lemmings that the ongoing humiliation ritual that is your ratshit life will soon be coming to an end."
Tsar: "Roastie foids"...."Instead of Happier Abroad more like Escortmaxxing Roasties Abroad"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FNHSiPFtvA
Tsar: "Roastie foids"...."Instead of Happier Abroad more like Escortmaxxing Roasties Abroad"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FNHSiPFtvA
Re: What are some red pill experiences...
Spain has a warm Mediterranean climate with summer days that often surpass 30º (at least on the east coast and in the south) and bearable winters. Spring and autumn are particularly pleasant. The warm weather obviously contributes to the greater level of sociability in Spain but I don't think that it's the only factor. I observe that Mediterranean culture is more open and relaxed than Anglo and Northern European culture for historical reasons too. Spain and Italy are Catholic countries with a laxer attitude with regard to rules and sexual mores whereas the UK and the rest of the Germanic countries are historically Protestant societies with an emphasis on rules and strict conformity and which have received heavy doses of puritanism as well as the Protestant work ethic at one time or another. This difference of religio-social outlook is, in my view, the main reason why Mediterranean societies tend to be more relaxed and free-spirited while people in Anglo societies tend to be noticeably more uptight and prone to anti-sociality. I always feel much more liberated in Spain or any other Latin country but totally inhibited in the UK.kangarunner wrote: ↑September 13th, 2022, 8:32 amDoes Spain have warmer weather? I think warm, sunny weather brings out a more friendly vibe in people. Also, I heard someone say that countries close to the Equator are more social and friendly.
Anecdotally I've found Slavic peoples such as Russians, Bulgarians and Polish people to be quite sociable and free-spirited even though some of them come from cold regions.
I don't think it's so clear-cut. British women are totally unfeminine too and maybe even worse than American women. When I meet foreign women from Latin America or Asia the difference is literally night and day.kangarunner wrote: ↑September 13th, 2022, 8:32 amAmerican women win the gold medal for least feminine.
I'm not a fan of British music. Of course you'll find some good songs and artists like you do everywhere but by and large British musical movements don't resonate with me on an aesthetic and energetic level. I actually prefer American genres (especially predominantly Black ones) from the 80s to the early 2000s and admire much of the musical pioneership and innovation that took place in the US during the latter half of the 20th century. I'm also a big fan of Latin American/Spanish-language music.kangarunner wrote: ↑September 13th, 2022, 8:32 amBut England does have a lot of great thinkers and artists. I grew up here in TN listening to Bush, Oasis, Prodigy.
Re: What are some red pill experiences...
My first Red Pill was that a campus feminist who yells all men are racists would stay silent when a drug dealer or pimp rapes her to repay a debt. Happens a lot at UofT. Lots of feminists get raped at gunpoint by pimps and drug dealers in Toronto. Where are the protests?
Toronto Feminists want police patrolling middle class men for offending transgenders while armed drug dealers were reaping these liberal cunts at the clubs and frat houses.
Toronto Feminists want police patrolling middle class men for offending transgenders while armed drug dealers were reaping these liberal cunts at the clubs and frat houses.
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Re: What are some red pill experiences...
Yeah I know what you mean. One experience that turned me hardline conservative was seeing how common it is at college parties and nightclubs for guys to sexually assault girls and then girls say crap like “but it takes me out of the mood if you ask.” Like bitch stfu, if I don’t have an unambiguous green light I am not hitting go and it’s unfair for you to expect me to take that risk just so you can get extra vag tingles.Mew6ix wrote: ↑September 13th, 2022, 4:15 pmMy first Red Pill was that a campus feminist who yells all men are racists would stay silent when a drug dealer or pimp rapes her to repay a debt. Happens a lot at UofT. Lots of feminists get raped at gunpoint by pimps and drug dealers in Toronto. Where are the protests?
Toronto Feminists want police patrolling middle class men for offending transgenders while armed drug dealers were reaping these liberal cunts at the clubs and frat houses.
Re: What are some red pill experiences...
Toronto Police treat groping and unwanted touching as a sexual assault charge.Outcast9428 wrote: ↑September 13th, 2022, 5:22 pmYeah I know what you mean. One experience that turned me hardline conservative was seeing how common it is at college parties and nightclubs for guys to sexually assault girls and then girls say crap like “but it takes me out of the mood if you ask.” Like bitch stfu, if I don’t have an unambiguous green light I am not hitting go and it’s unfair for you to expect me to take that risk just so you can get extra vag tingles.Mew6ix wrote: ↑September 13th, 2022, 4:15 pmMy first Red Pill was that a campus feminist who yells all men are racists would stay silent when a drug dealer or pimp rapes her to repay a debt. Happens a lot at UofT. Lots of feminists get raped at gunpoint by pimps and drug dealers in Toronto. Where are the protests?
Toronto Feminists want police patrolling middle class men for offending transgenders while armed drug dealers were reaping these liberal cunts at the clubs and frat houses.
But why the f**k does Toronto Police treat average men accused of these infractions worse than the group of Islamists who plotted to blow up a train route in Ontario?
Toronto Police harass, intimidate and make a man's life miserable with onerous demands and threats just because a snowflake was offended or is projecting her rape from Tyrone by blaming a middle class man for it.
Then we as middle class Canadian men pay taxes to fund the bastard children of Tyrone who later grow up to rob us men at gunpoint.
Re: What are some red pill experiences...
kangarunner wrote: ↑September 9th, 2022, 6:45 pmFor forum posters here over 30, what are some Red Pill experiences or truths that you are very thankful to have and be aware of?
"The truth will set you free."
I have to admit, I used to be an NPC just living in the matrix completely unaware and going through each day like a robot. And then I got red pilled some time after living abroad.
For me, I'm very thankful to be red pilled about the true nature of America in general and American women. I'm thankful that so many content creators on the Internet and on Youtube are contributing the real red pill truths and propagating this knowledge. Thanks to @Winston for creating this site and his Youtube videos because many people have benefited from his observations and writings. It's like he told me in person, we've all had thoughts about how f***ed up America is but none us were able to put those subconscious thoughts into coherent words.
kangarunner, you became a teenager in an adults body once you went abroad. Eh, enjoy your life, you deserved it.
As of red pill, um, I haven't watched the Matrix movie in a while. I don't think I finished it the first time I watched it. As of the redpill community, a lot of them just waste a lot of time.
Then again, some people go all the way (cognitive dissonance/fallacy of incomplete evidence).
Eat dates.
The problem is iphones.
You definitely picked the wrong country.
Eat dates.
The problem is iphones.
You definitely picked the wrong country.
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Re: What are some red pill experiences...
The "Happier Abroad" concept is the red pill to freedom.
A fish doesn't know (is not aware of) the water that it's swimming in...
A chimpanzee that's been trained in the zoo by his zookeepers to be a "good" chimp doesn't know (is not aware of) that the real life is in the wild jungle.
We're trained by society's rules and norms to be "good". "Good" in this context just means "obedient".
Break free from the matrix.
A fish doesn't know (is not aware of) the water that it's swimming in...
A chimpanzee that's been trained in the zoo by his zookeepers to be a "good" chimp doesn't know (is not aware of) that the real life is in the wild jungle.
We're trained by society's rules and norms to be "good". "Good" in this context just means "obedient".
Break free from the matrix.
Favorite Cornfed quote: "Here's another one to reassure you lemmings that the ongoing humiliation ritual that is your ratshit life will soon be coming to an end."
Tsar: "Roastie foids"...."Instead of Happier Abroad more like Escortmaxxing Roasties Abroad"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FNHSiPFtvA
Tsar: "Roastie foids"...."Instead of Happier Abroad more like Escortmaxxing Roasties Abroad"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FNHSiPFtvA
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