If You Were Elected POTUS...

[kangarunner]

I want to start a topic and ask this question. The question is to list the things you would do if you were elected POTUS:

I will put my list of things I would do:

1 - Establish a European style Public Health Care System
2 - Marijuana Legal in all 50 states
3 - Universal Basic Income
4 - Martial Arts training mandatory in public high schools. (This builds confidence in the kids)

[Cornfed]

I want to start a topic and ask this question. The question is to list the things you would do if you were elected POTUS:

I will put my list of things I would do:

1 - Establish a European style Public Health Care System
2 - Marijuana Legal in all 50 states
3 - Universal Basic Income
4 - Martial Arts training mandatory in public high schools. (This builds confidence in the kids)

Obviously do what Trump should have done when the bad guys stole the election after the appropriate populist rhetoric. That is, take personal control of the military, take control of police via unions, deputise armed supporters, declare martial law and then execute the entire traitor establishment. Then it should be a matter of putting things right at leisure. What you propose is just silly.

[MrMan]

I want to start a topic and ask this question. The question is to list the things you would do if you were elected POTUS:

I will put my list of things I would do:

1 - Establish a European style Public Health Care System
2 - Marijuana Legal in all 50 states
3 - Universal Basic Income
4 - Martial Arts training mandatory in public high schools. (This builds confidence in the kids)

So, you want to do away with the Republic and turn the presidency into a dictatorship, and do away with the power of Congress? The US president is not supposed to have the power to establish a national public health care system, legalize marijuana in all 50 stays, or give a universal basic income. Usually, there is an initiative from the department of education and schools get on board, but I am not sure if they have been _required_ to follow no-child left-behind, or the hypersensitivity to 'bullying'. If they didn't, would they lose out on any funds?

But if there were a bunch of teenagers who were given free money to smoke weed, then after they beat each other up, then they could go get the free or cheap health care to treat their bruises. But they might have to wait a long time before they got their MRIs to check for brain damage and damage to other internal organs.

[kangarunner]

But if there were a bunch of teenagers who were given free money to smoke weed, then after they beat each other up, then they could go get the free or cheap health care to treat their bruises. But they might have to wait a long time before they got their MRIs to check for brain damage and damage to other internal organs.

Excellent. Just like Fight Club.

[MrMan]

But if there were a bunch of teenagers who were given free money to smoke weed, then after they beat each other up, then they could go get the free or cheap health care to treat their bruises. But they might have to wait a long time before they got their MRIs to check for brain damage and damage to other internal organs.

Excellent. Just like Fight Club.

I was thinking of something milder, like Cobra Kai with free money and socialized medicine... and marijuana. Not endorsing such a scenario, just thinking of it.

[Lucas88]

I was thinking of something milder, like Cobra Kai with free money and socialized medicine... and marijuana. Not endorsing such a scenario, just thinking of it.

There's nothing mild about Cobra Kai. Cobra Kai is baddass. Cobra Kai is real bone-crunching American Karate. Fight Club doesn't even compare!

Rules of Cobra Kai:

1. Strike First
2. Strike Hard
3. No Mercy

Bonus rule: Don't be a pvssy!

MrMan obviously prefers practicing kata and defence like that Miyagi-Do crap!

[Outcast9428]

I'm not interested in being president, I'd rather be governor... If I was elected governor though, I'd do the following.

- Enforce our obscenity laws to criminalize violent and extreme pornography.
- Write a law that explicitly states that assault and battery is a criminal offense, including in situations where the victim may have consented, for sexual reasons, or otherwise.
- Tighten up our adultery laws so that paramours in an adultery case can be sued for half of their financial assets.
- Create a US version of Orban's marriage loans program. $30,000 will be given to a couple upon marrying that they don't have to pay back if they have three kids or more. If they get divorced at any point within ten years of marrying, however, regardless of how many kids they've had, they must pay the loan back with interest.
- Withhold funding from any university that teaches leftist ideology. Demand that gender studies and critical race theory be completely scrapped from courses available. If a university refuses to have merit based entry requirements, then they will not receive state funding.
- Withhold state funding from any university that doesn't crackdown on degenerate behavior from their student body.
- Ban CTR.
- Make it illegal to have hiring and promotion standards that are unfair towards White men (meaning no more affirmative action).
- Make it so that schools are required to fire any teacher who promotes perverse sexual ideas such as BDSM, non-binary genders, or homosexuality (it will not be illegal for students who are gay, but it will be illegal for a teacher to make it part of a classroom lecture/curriculum).
- Increase the penalty for animal cruelty to potentially be life imprisonment without possibility of parole for severe and sickening cases.
- Increase criminal penalties for violent offenses.
- Make it so that being proven as having falsely accused somebody of a crime will put you in prison for the same amount of time as they would have gone to prison for if convicted.
- Ban abortion.
- Rebuild the statues of Confederate generals like Robert E Lee and Stonewall Jackson torn down during the BLM riots.
- Make it so that anybody "trying to destroy a figure, symbol, building, statue, document, or other items of great historical value or cultural heritage" can legally be shot if it is necessary to prevent that item's destruction.
- Designate the Confederate/rebel flag as part of Virginia's cultural heritage.
- Criminalize no fault divorce and replace it with a fault based system that allows divorce under the following circumstances... Abuse of the spouse or the children, adultery, infertility, or refusal to meet the sexual needs of your spouse. Whoever is deemed at fault for the divorce will not be allowed any financial compensation and the offended spouse will automatically get custody of the children.

Yes, I know the left would absolutely despise me... I'd be proud to be the most despised governor by leftists in American history. I don't think their disgusting and destructive ideology deserves any compromise with.

[MrMan]

I was thinking of something milder, like Cobra Kai with free money and socialized medicine... and marijuana. Not endorsing such a scenario, just thinking of it.

There's nothing mild about Cobra Kai. Cobra Kai is baddass. Cobra Kai is real bone-crunching American Karate. Fight Club doesn't even compare!

Rules of Cobra Kai:

1. Strike First
2. Strike Hard
3. No Mercy

Bonus rule: Don't be a pvssy!

MrMan obviously prefers practicing kata and defence like that Miyagi-Do crap!

Fight Club is more brutal than Cobra Kai, but the participants may not be as well trained.

The weakness of Cobra Kai is that its practitioners cannot see a very well signaled kick coming, like Le Russo's crane kick. They also cannot kick through very carefully constructed plot armor.

[MrMan]

I'm not interested in being president, I'd rather be governor... If I was elected governor though, I'd do the following.

- Enforce our obscenity laws to criminalize violent and extreme pornography.

You might need to be king or dictator for that. On the state police and prosecution side of things, a governor might be able to do something, but he probably has little power over judges.

- Write a law that explicitly states that assault and battery is a criminal offense, including in situations where the victim may have consented, for sexual reasons, or otherwise.

The legislature would have to pass it.

- Tighten up our adultery laws so that paramours in an adultery case can be sued for half of their financial assets.

And be at a major disadvantage for custody.

- Create a US version of Orban's marriage loans program. $30,000 will be given to a couple upon marrying that they don't have to pay back if they have three kids or more. If they get divorced at any point within ten years of marrying, however, regardless of how many kids they've had, they must pay the loan back with interest.

Where does the money come from? I have an idea. If someone files for a no fault divorce without grounds, then that person surrenders 20% of whatever marital assets they get. The money goes to the other spouse, and in high-income cases, some of it could go to fund your loans.

I am not really in favor of these loans, though. It takes money from one person and gives it from another. How about income and investment tax breaks for parents?

- Withhold funding from any university that teaches leftist ideology. Demand that gender studies and critical race theory be completely scrapped from courses available. If a university refuses to have merit based entry requirements, then they will not receive state funding.

Outlaw diversity initiatives promoting ideleogies that are based on sexual preference or identity. Schools may no sponsor sexual-preference themed clubs except for virginity.... and male-female marriage-- though the SCOTUS would probably need to overturn a garbage decision for that last one to work.

- Ban CTR.

Critical Theory Race?

- Make it so that schools are required to fire any teacher who promotes perverse sexual ideas such as BDSM, non-binary genders, or homosexuality (it will not be illegal for students who are gay, but it will be illegal for a teacher to make it part of a classroom lecture/curriculum).

No sex-themed or sexual-identity or sexual-preference themed clubs. And no sodomy in the school. That part should be illegal.

- Increase the penalty for animal cruelty to potentially be life imprisonment without possibility of parole for severe and sickening cases.

We need to get the human rights stuff taken care of as a first priority. Let people slaughter their own animals and sell the meat. Loosen up restrictions on slaughterhouses so mom-and-pop places can exist.

- Make it so that being proven as having falsely accused somebody of a crime will put you in prison for the same amount of time as they would have gone to prison for if convicted.

Same penalty, including the death penalty, assuming their are witnesses to crimes.

- Make it so that anybody "trying to destroy a figure, symbol, building, statue, document, or other items of great historical value or cultural heritage" can legally be shot if it is necessary to prevent that item's destruction.

Too extreme. Things are things. People are people.

- Designate the Confederate/rebel flag as part of Virginia's cultural heritage.

Why?

- Criminalize no fault divorce and replace it with a fault based system that allows divorce under the following circumstances... Abuse of the spouse or the children, adultery, infertility, or refusal to meet the sexual needs of your spouse. Whoever is deemed at fault for the divorce will not be allowed any financial compensation and the offended spouse will automatically get custody of the children.

Infertility? That's harsh. And does the infertile person have to pay a fine for being infertile? You can't have babies.... and you get sued for it? Would you legalize marital rape (either gender, assuming we are talking about intercourse.)

[fschmidt]

Running the country, I would start by nuking Silicon Valley.

Running a state, I would start by restricting the electorate to men who own their home and have no debt.

[WilliamSmith]

I want to start a topic and ask this question. The question is to list the things you would do if you were elected POTUS:

I will put my list of things I would do:

1 - Establish a European style Public Health Care System
2 - Marijuana Legal in all 50 states
3 - Universal Basic Income
4 - Martial Arts training mandatory in public high schools. (This builds confidence in the kids)

OK, here's mine:

#1 Throw out the jews.

#2 Step down and put the most dominant Jamaican woman I can find to be POTUS instead of me, since she'd be a better leader of a nation than I would, since I'm not interested in the position and would rather just lift weights, have sex with XL curvy women all day, and then relax and drink African and Caribbean beer to wind down in the evening watching the sunset and so on.

[MrMan]

I want to start a topic and ask this question. The question is to list the things you would do if you were elected POTUS:

I will put my list of things I would do:

1 - Establish a European style Public Health Care System
2 - Marijuana Legal in all 50 states
3 - Universal Basic Income
4 - Martial Arts training mandatory in public high schools. (This builds confidence in the kids)

OK, here's mine:

#1 Throw out the jews.

#2 Step down and put the most dominant Jamaican woman I can find to be POTUS instead of me, since she'd be a better leader of a nation than I would, since I'm not interested in the position and would rather just lift weights, have sex with XL curvy women all day, and then relax and drink African and Caribbean beer to wind down in the evening watching the sunset and so on.

Why a Jamaican woman?

[Outcast9428]

@MrMan

I would make the state police enforce the law and fire prosecutors who refused to uphold it.

I would largely eliminate the welfare system in favor of marriage loans. I would be perfectly willing to pay more taxes later in my life as an older person in exchange for a $30,000 loan as a young person. It has become really really difficult for young people to start their lives nowadays. Getting the down payment for your house literally takes years to accumulate. A house in the 1950s would have cost like $10,000 or $12,000. To buy a slightly nicer house might've been like $20,000. Nowadays, you are looking at $300,000 to $400,000 houses. And I am one of the lucky ones, and live in an area with one of the best costs of living in the country. its gonna take me some time but I can do it. A lot of young people nowadays simply can't do it. And it doesn't help that most young people waste several years of their lives doing busy work in college instead of making money. The marriage loans program would be an absolute life saver for many young people who would like to get married and start their lives by making it significantly easier to come up with the down payment.

Yes, ban critical race theory.

If we were living in the past, do you think our ancestors would have put up with people trying to destroy their ancestral traditions, slander their historical figures, destroy their nation's artifacts and heritage under the justification that things are things and people are people? Should Italy put up with someone trying to destroy the original Mona Lisa painting? Should Germany sit idly by as somebody attempts to blow up the Neuschwanstein castle? If it really came down to it, then yes, the police should shoot somebody trying to blow up the Neuschwanstein castle. The same applies to the symbols and objects which define our culture. Why should we treat our own with any less reverence? Most people agreed that attempting to destroy a nation's culture is an act of war. If people back then thought that the country they were trying to destroy would roll over and expose their bellies so long as they don't actually kill anybody, then they would've run roughshod over them and done whatever they wanted. If the attempt to destroy a culture comes from within, then it is an act of civil war. Destroying my culture ruins my descendants ability to thrive in the land I found for them. Trying to destroy objects which we consider important to our heritage is attempting to destroy my culture. So yes, the BLM thugs who tore down the statues honestly should have been shot. I’m not saying we should intentionally execute them but if they are in the middle of the act and shooting them is the only choice then you have to defend your culture. Most of the time people get shot it would only wound them anyway. If they didn’t want to be shot though they shouldn’t have tried to destroy our culture and eliminate our heritage. Nobody would have believed it was their right to riot and cause chaos again if the police had shown some backbone.

Because the confederate flag is part of our heritage. We should be proud of our heritage and own up to it rather then acting ashamed of it. I don't give a shit what anybody has to say about it, it is part of our heritage and if they don't like that then they can leave.

If you found out your partner was infertile, and you cannot get a divorce, you basically have to submit yourself to the fate of never being able to have kids. I think its reasonable to say that somebody would not have agreed to the marriage if they knew their potential spouse was infertile. If the partner knew about their partner's condition and married them anyway, then no I don't believe it is justified, but if they did not know their spouse was infertile... Then I think it is reasonable to allow them to try and find somebody they can have kids with.

I would not legalize marital rape, but I do think refusing to meet your spouse's sexual needs is a form of marital abuse and can justify the marriage's dissolvement.

[MrMan]

@MrMan

I would make the state police enforce the law and fire prosecutors who refused to uphold it.

I would largely eliminate the welfare system in favor of marriage loans. I would be perfectly willing to pay more taxes later in my life as an older person in exchange for a $30,000 loan as a young person. It has become really really difficult for young people to start their lives nowadays. Getting the down payment for your house literally takes years to accumulate. A house in the 1950s would have cost like $10,000 or $12,000. To buy a slightly nicer house might've been like $20,000. Nowadays, you are looking at $300,000 to $400,000 houses.

I just read a dollar was worth 12 times more in 1950. Still, buying a house for $120K is cheap compared to today's prices. But I would be interested in price-per-square foot. A lot of older homes are smaller. A lot of 1950's homes had rooms that opened up into the living room instead of corridors. It would be interesting to see the comparison.

But $30,000 is not going to close all that gap between $120,000 and $300,000. Old people are also vulnerable. They can be discriminated against for work past a certain age, legally, in the US, since age discrimination protections only go up to a certain age. They might not be physically able to work, and if they haven't saved enough, they have to pay more in taxes. It wouldn't be fair to the first generation of old people to pay for these $30,000 hand-outs to couples who stay together.

The $30,000 might be a good down payment, but there is something to be said for saving that up. You can get a house with 3% or 5% down payment. A couple of years ago, lenders didn't care if it was government handouts from the Biden administration that constituted the down payment. Would you require the loan be used to buy a house? Of course, doing so would cause the type of people who don't know how to save and pay bills to buy homes, and then they might default. Having to save for the downpayment eliminates some of that.

Governors do not have the power to do this, btw.

I also noticed the governor of Florida is boldly anti-woke. Do you like him? It seems like from the news, Florida has some sane politics compared to much of the country.

If we were living in the past, do you think our ancestors would have put up with people trying to destroy their ancestral traditions, slander their historical figures, destroy their nation's artifacts and heritage under the justification that things are things and people are people? Should Italy put up with someone trying to destroy the original Mona Lisa painting? Should Germany sit idly by as somebody attempts to blow up the Neuschwanstein castle? If it really came down to it, then yes, the police should shoot somebody trying to blow up the Neuschwanstein castle. The same applies to the symbols and objects which define our culture.

The US is the outlier for allowing the Confederate Flag to stay up for so long because of freedom of expression. The Confederacy won the war. I would imagine in centuries past, monuments to generals who lost the war were taken down by the opposing side, especially if they occupied the losing side's territory for a considerable amount of time. How many ancient statues are there to Celtic kings and generals in France?

Trying to destroy objects which we consider important to our heritage is attempting to destroy my culture. So yes, the BLM thugs who tore down the statues honestly should have been shot.

If someone is throwing bricks into a store that has people in it, it makes sense the police would use some force for that. But a statue is not a person. A human being's life is more valuable than a graven image of Jefferson Davis or the Mona Lisa.

Because the confederate flag is part of our heritage. We should be proud of our heritage and own up to it rather then acting ashamed of it. I don't give a shit what anybody has to say about it, it is part of our heritage and if they don't like that then they can leave.

I grew up in the South. To me, the Confederate Flag does not mean, "I want to lynch black people", but some people up north think it means that.

If you found out your partner was infertile, and you cannot get a divorce, you basically have to submit yourself to the fate of never being able to have kids. I think its reasonable to say that somebody would not have agreed to the marriage if they knew their potential spouse was infertile. If the partner knew about their partner's condition and married them anyway, then no I don't believe it is justified, but if they did not know their spouse was infertile... Then I think it is reasonable to allow them to try and find somebody they can have kids with.

I don't agree with that. If you marry a woman who is infertile and divorce her and marry another, you commit adultery.

Matthew 19
9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

What if you were infertile, and your wife betrayed you and left you over it? Why not just adopt children? I am a Christian, so if my wife had been infertile, we would have prayed and believed God to open her womb, like he did for Sarah, Leah, Anna, and Elizabeth in the Bible.

[Outcast9428]

@MrMan

Like I said, the loans program has already been put in place in Hungary and it was an incredible success. The marriage rate has doubled, the divorce rate cut in half, and several Hungarians I talked to directly cited the marriage loans program as being part of what destroyed hookup culture in Hungary because long term relationships are valued so much more now then they were before. All of this happened within years. Every person I have talked to about this program in real life, including some people who strike me as liberal, sounded excited about it. This is actually something really substantial that the Republican party could offer as part of their platform that could get people excited to vote for them rather then just voting for them out of fear of what the perverted, crazy Democrats will do if the Republicans are not in charge. I don't see how anybody who claims to cherish traditional values and lifestyles can be opposed to this. I mean, yes, it might not be completely fair to older people but isn't the goal, for older people, to leave behind a legacy? To create a better society for their children to grow up in then the one they left behind? You may not personally benefit from it anymore, but your children will, and if your children are already married, your grandchildren certainly would.

I don't want to put down a 5% down payment because my monthly mortgage rate will be too high. I'm trying to see if I can get a house without having a monthly mortgage that is much higher then about $1,500 a month. If I can make $50,000-$55,000 a year, basically about $3,000 a month in take home pay. A $1,500 a month mortgage should be something I can handle. Coming up with a sufficient down payment will take a long time though. I have a good amount saved but even an entire year of working and saving every penny I make wouldn't be enough at my current stage to make the down payment. I've been in the workforce already for two years now and compared to most people my age, I'm doing really well, but even for me it is hard.

DeSantis seems okay, but Florida is such a shithole I wouldn't ever bother with the place. Florida is anti-woke because the people there can't follow any rules whether a good person is making them or an evil person. If DeSantis actually tried to make Florida a truly conservative state instead of just being anti-woke, he'd be voted out of office tomorrow. That's why he won't touch abortion or adultery. Florida's amusement parks literally put on BDSM themed shows with children in the audience with no warning whatsoever. Asking the people of Florida to follow the woke rules regarding COVID procedures or "respecting people's pronouns" is like asking the citizens of Sodom and Gomorrah to follow any rules. They're not going to do it, not because they are conservative but because they don't like anyone telling them what to do.

Virginia is far far far more sane then Florida is. I've dated a girl in Florida and now I'm dating a girl here in Virginia. Florida is an absolute f***ing nightmare to have a relationship in. That is, unless you have a cuckoldry fetish and enjoy having random guys walk up to your girlfriend, trying to grope her and feel her up in-front of your face. Or if you like having random dudes pull up beside her asking her to get in the car with them and go home. Or if you enjoy having random strangers talk shit about you in public. Or if you enjoy having all the guys looking at your girlfriend with hunger in their eyes, like a predator trying to catch his prey. Or if you enjoy hearing about how your girlfriend's manager sexually assaulted her at work and how all the guys there apparently brag about cheating on their girlfriends as well as send pictures of their penises to all their female co-workers. In Virginia on the other hand, all I see are smiles and warmth. My ex girlfriend was never groped or had random dudes saying crude/lewd shit to her while she was in Virginia, and my girlfriend now hasn't been groped or sexually harassed at all either.

Those statues are a symbol of our culture and our heritage. The BLM thugs are tearing them down because they hate our culture and want to destroy it. Its not valuable because its a material object, it is valuable because of what it represents.

The South fought the war because the United States was never meant to be a mandatory concept. We are supposed to be a collection of mini-countries forming a union that we participate in out of our own free will. The original agreement under the constitution was that states could leave at any time they feel the union isn't benefitting them anymore. The South felt that the North was economically exploiting them. Robert E Lee and Stonewall Jackson did not fight to preserve slavery. Virginia wasn't even planning to join the confederacy until Lincoln told us that we needed to send our troops to attack South Carolina. Both Stonewall Jackson and Robert E Lee personally opposed slavery, they explicitly said they were not fighting to defend slavery but rather fought because they were Virginians and they were defending their state from people they considered to be invaders. Everyone who knew them at the time had great respect for those men and considered them to be very good men. To have these leftists slandering them and tearing down their statues is an absolute disgrace to their memory.