Zeitgeist (the internet "documentary")

[odbo]

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http://smashingtelly.com/2007/11/08/zei ... ever-told/

[oiltradingacademy]

http://smashingtelly.com/2007/11/08/zei ... ever-told/

Masonic Code:

Zeit-Geist

Z=26, G = 7, 26=7 equals 33, Zeitgeist is a 33rd degree Mason creation.........

[Winston]

Can you guys give some logical valid reasons why you don't think Zeitgeist is a great film? Like it or not, the points were melodramatically presented well. It was very engaging and thought-provoking.

Anyone can call a film some names. But you should back up your claims with logical valid reasons.

[Winston]

"Masonic Code:

Zeit-Geist

Z=26, G = 7, 26=7 equals 33, Zeitgeist is a 33rd degree Mason creation........."

Where do you get those numbers from exactly?

Anyone can take a name and get 666 or 33 out of it. lol

[C.J.]

Winston, look up "Numerology". That should help answer your question.

Regardless, Zeitgeist is a simple morsel. A morsel in an array of poisonous morsels, designed to mislead one's mind. Youtube is full of them.

Long story short, it's physical and psychic garbage.

Don't need to be proficient in numerology to know that though.

[Winston]

If Zeitgeist is garbage, you need to give some logical valid reasons why. Saying so doesn't make it true. And using numerology to get meanings out of letters doesn't prove anything.

[C.J.]

A valid reason why garbage is garbage? Let me answer that question with a question.

What usable knowledge have you taken from that particular piece? Anything?

Zeitgeist gives you a lot of info. However, that info becomes completely worthless, next to what the movie doesn't tell you. Like why we're in debt and what unseen forces there are controlling our economy. And how to keep yourself debt free.

[Winston]

A valid reason why garbage is garbage? Let me answer that question with a question.

What usable knowledge have you taken from that particular piece? Anything?

Zeitgeist gives you a lot of info. However, that info becomes completely worthless, next to what the movie doesn't tell you. Like why we're in debt and what unseen forces there are controlling our economy. And how to keep yourself debt free.

I learned a lot from Zeitgeist, from both films:

- The roots and origins of the Jesus myth
- Arguments against the official version of 9/11
- How the Federal Reserve works, why it's a fraud, and why it is private and unaccountable
- How our money system is fraudulent
- Why the monetary system guarantees and unfair world where the rich get richer and the poor get

To me that was VERY awakening. Priceless.

[C.J.]

Priceless, huh? I find the incredible value you place on this (IMO) worthless information intriguing.

-Ok sure, you know some information about ONE Ascended Master, Jesus Christ. Or the "myth" of Jesus Christ as you call it. How will you apply that information to your life?

- Ok, you know a little more about 9/11 and hopefully you know of the occult purpose(s) of that event. What are you gonna do with that information?

- The Federal Reserve is an unofficially established financial entity, yes. But how does knowing that benefit you?

- FYI, the money system we have is just a system. What one would really consider fraudulent is the illusion the controllers of this world place on us, with this money system being near the source of this illusion. Now what?

- Our financial system is actually sound. What makes the poor poorer and the rich richer is a MUCH bigger problem aside from that, based on quantum mechanics. But let's say you knew that the financial system was run as a simulation, based on electronic circuitry. What then?

I'm curious about this, because I consider 99% of the information on Youtube to be worthless. (IMO) This info doesn't help the community evolve. It just keeps people looking for more information to stuff their brains and egos with, so they can rant about how much more they know compared to others, when in reality they're just as stupid as the people they know more "truth" than.

Maybe there is some worth to that information many keep ranting and raving about, but I haven't found it yet?

[odbo]

Winston you cannot wake up from your hypnosis with a movie. You're like the rest of the "truther" morons who watched The Matrix and then started asking each other "Are you awake too"? A film, a book, another person can light a spark, but you have to liberate yourself. You cannot be brainwashed into freedom. If you look closely at Zeitgeist it is pure brainwash and doesn't even try to hide that fact. How is it any different from watching a Michael Moore film, believing every word of it and then walking out thinking you've learned something? But you seem to be fine with being manipulated since you believe the intentions are good.

Zeitgeist is utter, utter crap. Half of it is not true. The other half you should have figured out yourself. However it conveniently decides what you should do with this knowledge.

[Winston]

Priceless, huh? I find the incredible value you place on this (IMO) worthless information intriguing.

-Ok sure, you know some information about ONE Ascended Master, Jesus Christ. Or the "myth" of Jesus Christ as you call it. How will you apply that information to your life?

- Ok, you know a little more about 9/11 and hopefully you know of the occult purpose(s) of that event. What are you gonna do with that information?

- The Federal Reserve is an unofficially established financial entity, yes. But how does knowing that benefit you?

- FYI, the money system we have is just a system. What one would really consider fraudulent is the illusion the controllers of this world place on us, with this money system being near the source of this illusion. Now what?

- Our financial system is actually sound. What makes the poor poorer and the rich richer is a MUCH bigger problem aside from that, based on quantum mechanics. But let's say you knew that the financial system was run as a simulation, based on electronic circuitry. What then?

I'm curious about this, because I consider 99% of the information on Youtube to be worthless. (IMO) This info doesn't help the community evolve. It just keeps people looking for more information to stuff their brains and egos with, so they can rant about how much more they know compared to others, when in reality they're just as stupid as the people they know more "truth" than.

Maybe there is some worth to that information many keep ranting and raving about, but I haven't found it yet?

If you truly love truth and knowledge, it won't matter whether you can apply it to your life or not. Truth itself is worth it and priceless. If truth is your passion, you will understand that. If not, then you won't. You sound like a practical Asian, who thinks that nothing is valuable unless you can apply it or use it in your life. That is limited perception in my view. Truth itself, whether applicable or not, is worth it.

I think understanding lies and brainwashing toughens up your defense system. It protects you from scams, mind control, etc. It helps you understand how the world works. Otherwise, you follow false programmed assumptions such as authority=truth, majority=right and conformity=security, etc.

There are many more benefits, which I elaborated on in another thread, but that's enough I need to say here. Having the truth is VERY valuable to me, and priceless, regardless if I can apply it or not. Everyone passionate about the truth knows what I mean.

If there was a chance you were adopted and that your parents were not really your parents, wouldn't you want to KNOW, even if you couldn't do anything with such information? If I lied to you, wouldn't you want to know about it, even though it's not useful to know about it?

Lovers of truth are curious, not practical.

[Winston]

Winston you cannot wake up from your hypnosis with a movie. You're like the rest of the "truther" morons who watched The Matrix and then started asking each other "Are you awake too"? A film, a book, another person can light a spark, but you have to liberate yourself. You cannot be brainwashed into freedom. If you look closely at Zeitgeist it is pure brainwash and doesn't even try to hide that fact. How is it any different from watching a Michael Moore film, believing every word of it and then walking out thinking you've learned something? But you seem to be fine with being manipulated since you believe the intentions are good.

Zeitgeist is utter, utter crap. Half of it is not true. The other half you should have figured out yourself. However it conveniently decides what you should do with this knowledge.

Stop acting like a snob again. Any movie, book or person can trigger the start of an awakening. Some have said that my articles triggered them onto a path of awakening too. It's a path. No one has all the answers in a box. Truth is a process of seeking and asking questions. Zeitgeist is a good start.

Your subjective broad statements are not logical. Which half of Zeitgeist is false and which is true? You need to back up your statements with valid reasons, evidence, arguments, etc. otherwise they are pointless and sound like tripe opinions. You saying so doesn't make something so. You need to give GOOD REASONS. UNDERSTAND?

[odbo]

Stop acting like a snob again. Any movie, book or person can trigger the start of an awakening. Some have said that my articles triggered them onto a path of awakening too. It's a path. No one has all the answers in a box. Truth is a process of seeking and asking questions. Zeitgeist is a good start.

Your writing triggering someone's awakening is completely different. You deal with a topic most men already have extensive life experience in. It confirms what they already know deep down, but were not allowed to think in this politically correct society. How is that anything like the "awakening" Zeitgeist zombies go through? What does the average viewer already know of religious history, 9/11, or the Federal Reserve?

I wasn't acting like a snob. You didn't answer my question. How is it any different from other examples of brainwash (aka Hollywood movies)?

People are very negatively affected by most films. One simple film can change the course of someone's life. A fool will watch Fast & Furious and surprise surprise, start street racing. They'll watch Rocky and suddenly get interested in fighting. They'll watch Lethal Weapon and later join the police academy. Or maybe they'll watch Rambo or Top Gun and go sign up for the military.

How is Zeitgeist ANY different?? Just because Zeitgeist deals with "counter-culture" topics does not mean people walk away from the film suddenly thinking for themselves. You being fooled into perceiving the information it brings up as something you need to know, doesn't change its obvious brainwashing into "awakening".

It is politically motivated. They have an interest in discrediting Jesus and pushing the Venus Project. It is not an honest documentary to say the least. It is based on Jordan Maxwell's work. Well long before Zeitgeist came out he (along with nearly everything he claims) was exposed as a fraud.

[Winston]

Most Americans don't know anything about the origin of Jesus, religious history, 9/11, or the Federal Reserve. So what do you mean?

How is Zeitgeist bad? You still haven't answered this question.

How was Jordan Maxwell proven to be a fraud? I listened to him and he seems sincere and truthful. Where is your proof that he is a fraud?

[C.J.]

If you truly love truth and knowledge, it won't matter whether you can apply it to your life or not. Truth itself is worth it and priceless. If truth is your passion, you will understand that. If not, then you won't. You sound like a practical Asian, who thinks that nothing is valuable unless you can apply it or use it in your life. That is limited perception in my view. Truth itself, whether applicable or not, is worth it.

I think understanding lies and brainwashing toughens up your defense system. It protects you from scams, mind control, etc. It helps you understand how the world works. Otherwise, you follow false programmed assumptions such as authority=truth, majority=right and conformity=security, etc.

There are many more benefits, which I elaborated on in another thread, but that's enough I need to say here. Having the truth is VERY valuable to me, and priceless, regardless if I can apply it or not. Everyone passionate about the truth knows what I mean.

If there was a chance you were adopted and that your parents were not really your parents, wouldn't you want to KNOW, even if you couldn't do anything with such information? If I lied to you, wouldn't you want to know about it, even though it's not useful to know about it?

Lovers of truth are curious, not practical.

You called me an Asian!?





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THAT'S THE BEST COMPLIMENT I EVER GOT IN MY LIFE!

Asians are quite possibly, the smartest race I ever seen, next to those damn Russians.

Anyway, if I was adopted, I wouldn't want to know who my real parents were. They threw me away! XD

You're right Winston, I don't have a passion for truth. I have a passion for POWER. It's the only thing that won't betray me TBH. I no longer search for truth, used to. For me, the truth comes when it needs to. The only truth I think I need and want is that which makes me more powerful. Everything else can go by the wayside.

Compared to what I know and what I wish to know, Zeitgeist is garbage. And so is nearly every Youtube "truth" video. If I can't apply the knowledge I have, it's worthless. Takes up space. Space I could use for more interesting things.