Update:
Well our one week escapade is over for now. Rock has gone back to Taipei and I've returned to Chiayi. We have many pictures, so I'll post them when I receive them from Rock.
Overall, we had some fun and met a lot of interesting people. But Murphy's Law still seems to apply in that the type of girls I like still don't seem into me.
There is a lot to tell, and I'm not sure I can even remember all of it. But I'll try. Here is my summation. If I forget something, I'll add it later.
- Overall, this was a good bonding experience for me and Rock. We got to better know and understand each other better, and I believe Rock understands me better now (as long as he retains his memory of what he experienced and saw around me, as both of us can be forgetful at times) since he saw much of what I told him first hand. It turns out that we are more similar than I thought. Rock also has an uncanny ability to read vibes and body language. His summation of some of my friends that I introduced him to was spot on and concurred with my own take as well.
- Rock even witnessed a lot of Murphy's Law working in my life and concurred that it does seem to be a phenomenon in some people's lives, esp those who have constant bad luck in that everything seems to work the opposite of what they want. I showed him many examples in my life and he began to see that Murphy's Law is indeed a powerful force that works in all our lives to some degree. He suggested that I try Ladislav's Nichiren Buddhism, where you chant for hours to change your luck.
- Rock found my town of Chiayi to be very hickish and narrow and less friendly than in Taipei. He also saw what I told him about, with all the closed narrow faces of uneducated hickish people and said "No wonder you feel repressed in Taiwan". Some of the men here even looked rugged and primitive, which made him feel like they could randomly attack him at any time. lol And some of the receptionists we met were cold. At one big Thai massage parlor, we weren't even allowed to sit in the lobby and talk after we put our shoes back on after we got our massage. It's like they had some anal rule where customers have to put on their shoes and leave, rather than sit around and relaxing. It's one of those "unnecessary anal" rules in some joints in Taiwan that make no sense but just exist anyway. Weird.
- Nevertheless, we went out and explored Chiayi all night for several nights, going to seedy places such as massage parlors and pubs with female entertainers, meeting people out in AM hours and making endless observations about every little thing. Rock said that we were like "Beavis and Butthead". lol. He also said that my personality in person is totally different than on the forum. He thinks that I'm more soft spoken in person, but on the forum, I come out blazing with big guns. lol.
Most people we met were polite, but since we were exploring the seedy "black world", as Rock called it, of the AM hours, we met some exceptions. There was this pub with lots of hot hostesses who sit and entertain you that we went to. But we had a mishap there twice in a row. It started because we were taking photos of the girls pictures posted on the walls of the hallway, which was next to the elevator to the pub. Suddenly, the manager, a woman with a pissed off ghetto look on her face, came out and yelled at us - but more specifically at Rock since she was looking at him while she was chewing us out. The next night, we went to the same place, assuming that manager had cooled down. But when we sat down and the waitress was explaining the pricing to us, that same manager came over, yelled at Rock for asking about the prices, and took our menus and ordered us to leave. Sheesh. That was the rudest manager I've ever seen in Taiwan. Her behavior was totally irrational and senseless. I don't know what her problem was. But Rock said that you can't make sense out of something like that.
When we left, we had another interaction with some weird drunk guy who kept moving his hands at us, while he spoke, so close to us that it almost hit our faces a few times. He tried to get us to buy him some drinks at another bar he suggested, but we became disinterested so that he would leave, since his company wouldn't have been pleasant anyway.
Oh well. Rock said that that's what you get in the "black world" of Taiwan, which is full of low quality and high prices, and yet another reason why Taiwan is not good for p4p. What this means for me is that if I can't get normal girls in Taiwan, then I also can't pay for them either. So I lose either way, which sucks.
- Neither of us shined in discos or nightclubs, since we are both introverts, not good at dancing, and don't vibe with it. We went to some in Taichung. They seemed to have a dark negative energy that didn't match our personality/vibe. I don't know why. But Rock did meet a tall thin accountant girl at one of them. When he was getting her number though, some Taiwanese guy took his smart phone and said "That's my girlfriend". But later, the girl told Rock that he wasn't her boyfriend, just some jealous friend who was trying to pursue her. But Rock was careful to avoid confrontation though, whereas I was ready to fight if necessary, because he fears that he will end up fighting a pack of guys rather than one. I seemed to find nicer girls in train stations and buses than nightclubs.
But the nightclub girls wore the hottest clothes and had the sexiest bodies. I can't believe how many girls in Taiwan have such long legs. Among my relatives, no one has long legs, since my relatives tend to be short. The downside of all the sexy nightclub girls was that most of them either had pissed off snooty faces, or acted like total divas.
- We did meet many girls in public, and got many facebook contacts and a few phone numbers. So based on that, Rock appears to be right that in Taiwan, one can meet many approachable girls. However:
a) You have to be a very good talker and very patient in making long-winded small talk with random people, which is a skill not everyone has, nor has the patience for. You see, Rock is the kind of guy who can talk about inane things or intellectual things, for hours at a time, from evening til the wee hours of the morning. (We also seem to attract others that do that) What this means is that he can talk to a ditzy airhead and hold a long conversation about inane things, and think of things to say at every moment. I can't always do that though, because I often run out of things to say or can't think of what to say next. Plus I don't have that kind of patience either, to talk about inane things for a long time. But Rock is able to keep a superficial conversation flowing, thus the result is that many Taiwan girls will keep listening, even if the conversation is mostly one-sided. But not everyone can do that. So in that sense, it's not that easy.
b) Even if you have a positive interaction with a Taiwanese female, meeting her again or taking it to the next level is a whole different ballgame. You can't just ask them out or ask them to meet again, not directly. I don't know why. It's like some kind of complicated mind game where the rules aren't clear. I wrote about this in another post here:
viewtopic.php?p=93776#93776 And this applies to Rock too, not just me, as you can see in that post. So in that sense, I am right in that dating in Taiwan is not easy.
- Rock met some of my friends in Taichung, including a Chinese lady I'm seeing there. He found her personality to be more interesting than I did though. We also liked her kids. They were so direct, outspoken and sarcastic. My friend's daughter also liked me and kept asking about me. So I told Rock, "See what I mean? How come a little girl I can't even date is crazy about me, but the girls I like who are over 18 are never crazy about me? This is yet another great example of Murphy's Law in my life." Rock laughed and agreed that my life was full of Murphy's Laws indeed. lol Like me, Rock is also very curious about everything and everyone he hears about. This is why he's open to exploring seedy places and nightlife areas that he and I wouldn't normally vibe with, aka the "black world" in Taiwan, where quality is low and prices are high. Another problem with the black world in Taiwan is that one's preferences don't seem to be respected. Instead, you are treated as if you have no tastes or standards, and rushed through it as if you were expected to be happy to pay and leave and didn't care about quality or beauty. Weird.
Anyway, we had fun and interesting experiences. It is good to share these experiences with someone else, and make observations/analyses with a fellow intellectual, as we did. Asian/White duos like us also make for interesting experiences.
Anyhow, that's all I can remember for now. If I forgot to mention anything, I'll just add it later to this thread. When I get the pictures from Rock and organize them, I'll post them here.
Hope you found this trip report interesting.