Happier Abroad Debate on Reddit

[yick]

This contradicts everything and I do mean everything I've read about white chicks dating in Asia.

You haven't read hard enough, there are TONS of blogs on this subject. About 'how hard' it is for western women to date in Asia because they won't go local.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jocelyn-e ... 27240.html
(The first link I pulled when I typed in the search engine western women in asia and dating)

Here is another one

http://www.transitionsabroad.com/listin ... nges.shtml

It might be slightly different and better in Japan than it is in China, but from my experience, and you can ask anyone here who is an expat in Asia, it is a minority of western women who'll date local - the vast majority won't - they hope to find a western expat but the vast vast vast majority of western male expats date local - if they arrive with no preference for Asian women then it doesn't stay that way for long.

The ones who actually do choose to live in Asia tend to be very open to dating locals,

Not true - in the main.

the same thing that draws them to the country will draw them to the people.

So you think, but not true.

Some figure it out and actually date locals.

A few do, and the ones who might do are Swedes, Finns, Germans and Russians - the amount of white women from The States, Australia or the UK who date local Asian men - very very few.

Many many others complain that they can't find any local to date. Usually because the guys are too intimidated, or their preferences are... to be honest more for the child like docile tiny women and the western girls can't provide that.

Maybe - in some cases, but when I have asked western white women why - they always state that they don't like them - all 850 million of them (because I am in China)

When they talk of dating whites, it often comes across more as a second choice which is very difficult to do because too many expats are freaks and they almost always have the yellow fever.

Not true at all, most expat women will always choose a white man over a local, what does happen is that a male expat who the expat female wouldn't look at twice back home gets more attractive and stands more of a chance but the local man stands NO CHANCE WHATOSOEVER with the majority of western women. White expat men luck out with both sets of women, however, most expat men are only interested in local women, there are a few who will date exclusively expats but... they're around the same percentage as expat women who will date Asian men.

Granted white chicks who live in Asia would have different attitudes from those who stay at home.

Yes, but not when it comes to dating and having sex, ask anyone here - I am not saying it never happens, but the vast majority of western women won't.

[yick]

No, mixed race doesn't mean mental illness. Being unable to form an identity as a child does though. It's a problem that not only mixed race kids suffer, but mixed kids are particularly susceptible. I'm glad you were able to avoid that problem. I was too in the end, though it took a long time and I had no help from my parents.

Thanks David, I am glad you managed to get yourself sorted out too.

[Winston]

Hapas refers to mixed Asian. It means half White, half Asian people like myself usually. They could also be half Black I suppose, but the important part is half Asian.

The hapa board on reddit is about hapas who have problems in America. They feel like they're kind of isolated from both White and Asian communities in America. An example of a hapa is Elliot Rodger, the guy who went on a killing spree in California because he couldn't get a girlfriend. Elliot had a White dad and Chinese mother, so he was a hapa. A lot of hapas complain that there are a lot more White male and Asian female relationships than the other way around. It's like Asian men get screwed over because Asian women want to date White guys more than their own race.

So if they are mixed kids themselves, then why are they against white male/asian female couples having offsprings that are mixed kids too? Do they want their own kind to go extinct? lol. Wouldn't it benefit them to have more of them so they can have more of a group identity?

[MrMan]

Maybe Hapas in the US get lumped in with Asian men while the Hapa girls are exotic half Asian girls.

In Hawaii, Hapa is a pretty bit part of the population, and you'll see Asian looking guys with a little bit whiter looking girls. I think everyone is a minority there, but 'Hapa' may be the biggest minority, especially if you count Polynesian mixes as Hapa. I'm not sure if they do that.

[Yohan]

The people on the Hapa sub-reddit seem rather obsessed with demonzing the dynamics of relationships between white men and Asian women. It is completely out of control, their fanaticism.
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They have this ridiculous assumption that any white man who dates or marries an asian woman is some racist loser redneck by default. All Asian women apparently want white men to "upgrade their race", and all asian men are therefore hopeless and will not do well dating-wise in the west.
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It's very clear that the founder of the Hapas subreddit has psychological problems. He was depressed for a long time.....

This Hapa sub-reddit is one out of various hater-groups created by Asian-Americans. There are some other similar websites, all in USA, mostly West-Coast, SF-based. They claim the Asian-American man is discriminated in social life and leftover as victim, while the Asian-American woman is running only after 'white men'. Might be true in some cases... and ...

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As a fact, to be half/half is often an advantage, at least here in Japan as 50/50 people often are bi-lingual and know about both countries, holding nationality/resident status/working permit for both countries. There are plenty of lucrative jobs for them in international organizations, import/export trade, interpreters, fairs and exhibitions, international hotels etc...

Also in our office there is half/half staff, also Japanese women married with European men, European women married with Japanese men and there are absolutely no complaints or disputes among us all.

In my family there is only 1 white (=me), Japanese wife, 2 half/half daughters, 1 Japanese son-in-law, and 1 Asian American son-in-law.
Nobody ever complained about 'racism'.

Is a white man dating an Asian woman a racist loser by default? I don't know if I should answer this question with Yes or No.
You might expect in your life as a young straight man that a relationship with a woman next to your home is the best and easiest choice, as you share language, education, often religion, and other values. However I clearly failed to do so. In this sense I am indeed a 'racist loser'. - And so what? My life now is not bad at all, I don't care if I am a 'racist loser'....

Psychological problems? Who has no psychological problems nowadays, honestly? Me included - however this is no justification to attack verbally couples which have nothing to do with you personally in your life - solely out of the reason that he is Caucasian and she is of Asian race.

[Traveler]

Most people like their own kind. You'll find this wherever you go. In most Asian countries, the majority of females prefer to date Asian men. The only reason that white guys can do well is because they are a novelty or rarity in Asia. Suppose that only 1% of females in China like white guys- that's still millions of women who like white guys and many more than all the white guys in the country. So a white guy who goes to China will benefit from a favorable ratio in his dating life. I have a hard time believing that Asians are less racist. In Korea, white guys are often stereotyped as perverts, losers, predators, etc. who can't find jobs in their home country. There is a significant amount of racism directed at interracial couples. I know a guy living in Seoul who says that his Korean wife sometimes gets called a whore when they are out in public together (and I thought Seoul was one of the better places for foreigners in Korea). She gets called a yang kongju (literally western princess). Historically, that term was used to insult Korean prostitutes who serviced US troops.

[Yohan]

I have a hard time believing that Asians are less racist. In Korea, white guys are often stereotyped as perverts, losers, predators, etc. who can't find jobs in their home country. There is a significant amount of racism directed at interracial couples.

This is similar also with Thai people. However it is done in a somewhat 'friendly Thai smile' way, the farang (Western foreigner) is not a pervert, loser or predator, but many Thai, both men and women, consider these Western men who are looking for marriage with a Thai woman as 'friendly ATM-guys' who are willing to pick up the leftovers - the Western man makes all these Thai girls happy who no Thai man will ever accept.

The farang accepts every Thai p***y because of 'yellow fever' and pays for everything, welcome. Take the Thai whore, take the Thai brown stupid girl who is good only for factory and field work and for sex, take the Thai girl who is full with drugs and alcohol just released from jail etc. and pay for their families, buy them a motorcycle, give them a new house, feel free to sleep with your newlywed Thai garbage and f**k her as much as you can and if you have no money anymore, the useless Thai whore will anyway divorce you and move on to the next foreigner who will also take care of YOUR children.. .

Not really a nice opinion about Western foreign men with a Thai wife, but at least not hateful at all.

Unlike with these Asian-American men, it seems there is no rivalry coming out from Thai men, there is nothing going on like 'white man is stealing our women' or similar racist bullshit.

[abcdavid01]

Hapas refers to mixed Asian. It means half White, half Asian people like myself usually. They could also be half Black I suppose, but the important part is half Asian.

The hapa board on reddit is about hapas who have problems in America. They feel like they're kind of isolated from both White and Asian communities in America. An example of a hapa is Elliot Rodger, the guy who went on a killing spree in California because he couldn't get a girlfriend. Elliot had a White dad and Chinese mother, so he was a hapa. A lot of hapas complain that there are a lot more White male and Asian female relationships than the other way around. It's like Asian men get screwed over because Asian women want to date White guys more than their own race.

So if they are mixed kids themselves, then why are they against white male/asian female couples having offsprings that are mixed kids too? Do they want their own kind to go extinct? lol. Wouldn't it benefit them to have more of them so they can have more of a group identity?

I like that new article "Why Asian men & White women are not naturally compatible - Good News for Asian Guys!" you posted. It makes sense. The Daily Mail diagram is interesting. It shows Asian males responding to Latino females. My most serious relationship was with a Hispanic girl.

What do you think the difference is between NE and SE Asian women?

Hapas are often angry at their parents. If they're mixed race, but look more Asian, it's like their own mother rejected guys who look like them for White guys.

They're attacking you on the "Asian Identity" board too:

[chanta76]

I think this is just Winston opinion regarding if Asian men and white women are not compatible. It's like white men with black women are not too common but it does happen just like Asian men with white women does. I think sometimes this site just take extreme position.

Hapas or mixed Asians have issues like everyone else. I met a number of hapas..the mothers were sometimes working bar girls married to former GI's or sometimes expats. From my experience many hapas have issues if they grew up in this type of family.

[Pinaylover]

Its a bunch half breeds painting us all here as sex tourists... the reality is that most men are polygamous... Asian culture is rife with polygamous men. So those guys would do exactly the same thing if they could score with chicks on a regular basis. They make it sound like our mission is to spread white seed across Asia with no regard for the women we lay. I don't know about but the last time I checked I have not fathered any children nor do I plan on it.

Sure we can go for the cheap girls but since we do have some advantage you should try to go for upper middle class girls. That's a much harder pull.

Those people seem to be an example of racism at its finest.. their group is based on race/racism, ours is based on happiness. Best to ignore those clowns.

[Mr_reddit]

Wow. They are really brutal in their assesment of you, Winston:

He's such a loser, tells everyone he's smart yet has done nothing with his life, complains and bitches because most women don't want to associate with him in the West, so he goes to Philippines thinking it's better but still has to buy prostitutes unsurprisingly. His whole site is nothing but old decrepit white guys thinking they are all 8-10s that western women are stupid to reject, all of whom think every white girl is jealous of their relationships. He even has a section in his site dedicated to bitching about Anglo girls. I read a little bit on his site, pretty sure he said he got turned down by prostitutes in russia lmao. He's definitely bottom of the barrel in terms of looks, personality, intelligence and finances with zero social skills, so not surprised he hangs out with ugly sexpats online, he's one of them. Just glad all the guys on that site are poor and low on social skills, no chance my kids would ever accidentally mingle with their messed up kids with their dead end genes.

Writing books telling losers how to buy 3rd world hookers is not an accomplishment, considering yourself the most freethinking asian of all time is not an accomplishment. Having to buy hookers is not an accomplishment. What has Winston Wu contributed to society besides taking advantage of vulnerable women and teaching autistic old losers how to do the same? I have helped build a school, I donate to numerous charity groups, I volunteer my time at animal shelters, all at the same time maintaining a high level corporate job in the West. What has Winston wu done? Bet your about to say something like "he helped lonely men". No he hasn't, he has helped decrepit losers who should not be allowed to breed to create the next generation of garbage kids. Also asian men white women are compatible, it's just none would ever find Winston wu attractive which is unsurprising. He is conventionally extremely ugly with an autistic personality. White women breed with him would be like people trying to breed with a monkey with leprosy.

It's funny because it's true

[cdnFA]

He's such a loser, tells everyone he's smart yet has done nothing with his life, complains and bitches because most women don't want to associate with him in the West, so he goes to Philippines thinking it's better but still has to buy prostitutes unsurprisingly. His whole site is nothing but old decrepit white guys thinking they are all 8-10s that western women are stupid to reject, all of whom think every white girl is jealous of their relationships. He even has a section in his site dedicated to bitching about Anglo girls. I read a little bit on his site, pretty sure he said he got turned down by prostitutes in russia lmao. He's definitely bottom of the barrel in terms of looks, personality, intelligence and finances with zero social skills, so not surprised he hangs out with ugly sexpats online, he's one of them. Just glad all the guys on that site are poor and low on social skills, no chance my kids would ever accidentally mingle with their messed up kids with their dead end genes.

Writing books telling losers how to buy 3rd world hookers is not an accomplishment, considering yourself the most freethinking asian of all time is not an accomplishment. Having to buy hookers is not an accomplishment. What has Winston Wu contributed to society besides taking advantage of vulnerable women and teaching autistic old losers how to do the same? I have helped build a school, I donate to numerous charity groups, I volunteer my time at animal shelters, all at the same time maintaining a high level corporate job in the West. What has Winston wu done? Bet your about to say something like "he helped lonely men". No he hasn't, he has helped decrepit losers who should not be allowed to breed to create the next generation of garbage kids. Also asian men white women are compatible, it's just none would ever find Winston wu attractive which is unsurprising. He is conventionally extremely ugly with an autistic personality. White women breed with him would be like people trying to breed with a monkey with leprosy.

I got to admit, the line where he wrote "White women breed with him would be like people trying to breed with a monkey with leprosy" cracked me up. Their hatred is sooooooooo over the top, damn...

It's more right then wrong by a healthy margin. Also I'd call it more disgust than hatred.

[chanta76]

pinaylover,

What some of them saying has an ounce of truth. There are many expats that go abroad as sex tourist and do spread the seed around. I'm not judging but it does happen.

[Zambales]

Writing books telling losers how to buy 3rd world hookers

Did Winston really do that? That's genius.

[zboy1]

Those Reddit guys should realize that HA has many non-monger Asian members on the forum, such as me, EthanSg, Falcon, CerealKiller, Baoning, Chanta, and others. Plus, a lot of Hapas such as AbcDavid as well. It's ridiculous for them to stereotype every Asian member here as Winston clones. Plus, you have many Black, White or whatever members here as well.

Jeez, what a bunch of haters.

These guys should leave the Anglosphere like many of the Asian forum members of HA have done. I used to be one of those 'complainer' types, too, but once you move to Asia, you feel a lot happier and could give a crap about White mongers, or Black vs. White racism, or any of the other b.s. that happens in the Anglosphere. It's a nice feeling to be away from all the hate.