HA thinks Germany is some kind of an paradise...WTF???

[germanguy]

I already posted this in another thread so I want to repeat it and turn it into an discussion about how wrong people on HA are when they think about Germany.

Come no now..Germany is a puppet of the US. It was the allied forces that installed our current government so what do you even expect? Since 1945 Germany has not been an independent country at all. In the east the Russians installed their communist government that killed the entire culture that we used to have and in the west the Americans/British taught us what democracy is.

Yes Germans seem to be critical towards the US. But they are critical against things like Conservatism, Christianity, War and other things that liberal Americans despise too.

Dont fool yourself, we watch Hollywood movies, listen to American music, eat at McDonalds and Burger King and have a government that is going to do whatever the US is telling them to do. Germans get all the BAD influences of the US without getting any of the good influences. Just to give an example we have feminism of liberal America but we dont have the conservative influences of the rural American areas. We dont have Fox News we only have liberal crap media that ruins everything and forces political correctness down our throats. We throw people in prison that wear Nazi flags or uniforms or do the "Hitler-Gruß"...We isolate everyone who is against gays or women. A German women was kicked out of a TV show a few years ago because she stood up for traditional wives who are OK with taking care of children, old people and the home. We reject everyone who has morals based on religion. We want to influence Muslims so that they start to believe how we do. Just to give an example: Turkish immigrants who pose naked with fake tits for playboy are encouraged and celebrated for being so free while the ones who are not willing to throw away all of their morals and cultural traits are isolated and ridiculed. Women are allowed to get an abortion just because she wants to and a kid would be inconvinient for her freedom while I cant smoke some weed in my home. We have a HUGHE number of abortions every year. If I remember right about 20% of all babies are killed. What kind of crap is that?? Women who dont even need to care about contraception while I am going to be fined, arrested and sent to prison for using weed. How ridiculous is that? And they want to tell me that I am FREE????The german government is still feeling guilty for WW2, that´s why we put Jews on a pedestal and our politicans tell us that we still aren´t allowed to forget about the German crimes during WW2. On each and every occasion we are told that Germans, even now, as a nation, are guilty and need to feel ashamed of what happened in the history of this country. We are basically having the understanding that the German people in their nature are somewhat violent and trying to take over the world. Having to be political correct is just the same as the US. Say something against Gays, Women, Jews, whatever kind of pseudo-persecuted people and you are going to be kicked out of your job and socially isolated. You are going to lose everything...That´s what the Americans taught us just fine, FREEDOM OF SPEECH

The word "Gender-Mainstreaming" has just been officially added to the German language. Our politicans are right now discussing a law that would force big companies to include a certain number of women (50% if i remember right) in their board of management. Do I need to continue? This country is hell...

Germany is f***ed UP...Just as bad as America.

I hear P4P mentioned all the time...If you just want to f**k expensive western hookers why dont you stay in the US????? Can´t you find hookers over there? I know it´s not legal but come on now...

[germanguy]

And another text I wrote as an answer to somebody who asked me if Germany is a family oriented country.

Germans are a bit like the typical liberal American that doesnt´t believe in god and lives in a big city like New York. Germans are less patriotic then Americans and less conservative. Before the US elections start we usually have statistics on how Germans would vote if they had to chose between Democrats and Republicans. 80-90% would vote for the Democrats. So that tells you a lot

Are these kind of people family oriented? HELL NO... German society is most of all individualistic, that´s also because of the huge social welfare that is provided by the government. Nobody really needs a family here so it´s only normal that families as the core of the society are eroding. Divorce rates are similiar to the US too, maybe even worse?

Feminism is rampant aswell of course...There are examples of feminist extremism that would shock Americans. A few months ago a bunch of feminazi´s protested against the barbie museum in berlin, did that that naked while burning a christian cross. And they did it because they say Barbie is stupid because she doesn´t work and takes too much care of her appearance.

[Winston]

You have a point. When I was at the airport in Frankfurt, Germany, the people there looked cold and mean. Even the customer service people looked cold and unfriendly.

But come on now, Germany does have some positive things over the US. Why don't you focus on them?

[germanguy]

You have a point. When I was at the airport in Frankfurt, Germany, the people there looked cold and mean. Even the customer service people looked cold and unfriendly.

But come on now, Germany does have some positive things over the US. Why don't you focus on them?

That is hardly surprising. Frankfurt International is probably the least friendly airport I have ever been to. The custom officials and immigration police officers are just totally rude and downright mean.

Which positives does Germany have when you compare it to the US?

Germany has even less freedom, even more taxes, even more liberalism...I dont know what would be much better in Germany

[Winston]

Yeah well a girl at the airport in Frankfurt called the police on me for talking to her. She thought I was in the human trafficking slave trade business because I told her I went to Russia to meet women. She was weird. The cops were dressed in yellow, like they were from a toy store, but they were tall and rude and harassed me for nothing.

Do the unfriendly people at the Frankfurt airport represent most of Germany?

German men in Russia told me that if you buy a girl a drink in Germany, they will be insulted.

I guess Germany has some advantages:

- Women aren't as obese.
- School bullying is prevented because the bad kids are put in separate schools from the good kids.
- There is national healthcare so people aren't bankrupted by medical bills like in the US.
- Government helps pay for your college fees.
- Food is healthier. GMO's, aspartme, and msg are banned.

We have many threads on Germany that go over this. Do a search for them in the Google search box above.

I heard that in the rest of Europe, Germans are considered cold and passionless. Is that true?

Btw, why can't Steffi Graf use her celebrity status, fame and money to get her father out of jail for tax evasion? Does the German law system not allow bribes? If so, doesn't that mean it's uncorrupt? In the US, you can buy your way out of the legal system. No one with lots of wealth and power go to jail, not if they belong to the elite.

Why is it illegal in Germany to question the Holocaust? Did the USA/Israel have something to do with that?

Do Germans think that Hitler started WWII? If so, how do they explain that in light of the fact that France and Britain declared war on Germany first?

Btw, why don't you come to America so you can compare it to Germany? I think you'll view Germany in a different light if you come here and compare.

[germanguy]

Yeah well a girl at the airport in Frankfurt called the police on me for talking to her. She thought I was in the human trafficking slave trade business because I told her I went to Russia to meet women. She was weird. The cops were dressed in yellow, like they were from a toy store, but they were tall and rude and harassed me for nothing.

Do the unfriendly people at the Frankfurt airport represent most of Germany?

German men in Russia told me that if you buy a girl a drink in Germany, they will be insulted.

I guess Germany has some advantages:

- Women aren't as obese.
- School bullying is prevented because the bad kids are put in separate schools from the good kids.
- There is national healthcare so people aren't bankrupted by medical bills like in the US.
- Government helps pay for your college fees.
- Food is healthier. GMO's, aspartme, and msg are banned.

We have many threads on Germany that go over this. Do a search for them in the Google search box above.

I heard that in the rest of Europe, Germans are considered cold and passionless. Is that true?

Btw, why can't Steffi Graf use her celebrity status, fame and money to get her father out of jail for tax evasion? Does the German law system not allow bribes? If so, doesn't that mean it's uncorrupt? In the US, you can buy your way out of the legal system. No one with lots of wealth and power go to jail, not if they belong to the elite.

Why is it illegal in Germany to question the Holocaust? Did the USA/Israel have something to do with that?

Do Germans think that Hitler started WWII? If so, how do they explain that in light of the fact that France and Britain declared war on Germany first?

Btw, why don't you come to America so you can compare it to Germany? I think you'll view Germany in a different light if you come here and compare.

No the people at Frankfurt airport are more rude then the average German. The people in rural eastern Germany are in fact rather friendly and helpful.

You are wrong about school bullying, this is a big problem here in Germany. Lots of suicides because of that...It happens everywhere, in every school, in every class.

There is more social welfare thats right, but IMO this is a bad thing as it erodes families and makes them basically useless.

I would say the Germans are a bit passionless, they are perfect slaves. They do their job without complaining and for the most part dont question the government or their boss. They are also very hard workers... Most people work awfully hard, even if you compare to Germany to other countries in the EU.

I dont know why it´s illegal to question the Holocaust in Germany...Has something to do with the government wanting us to feel quilty and bad about our history. I really dont know why they made it illegal... Probably the same reason any government wants to ban/block/delete opposition? After all "democracy" is only a farce...

Well Hitler started WWII by invading Poland...Anyways, most German people dont even know that it was the UK, US and France that declared war on us afterwards. People are not told these things, same with with the invasion of Poland. Most Germans don´t know that the Soviets had a agreement with Hitler to divide Poland and the Baltic States.

[germanguy]

Oh and by the way you can get around tax evasion lawsuits by paying a big fine..Only in very extreme cases you can not get around and go to jail.

[Winston]

Then why didn't Steffi Graf or her father pay the fine? Why was he in jail for so long? Is he still in jail?

Hitler invaded Poland to help free German citizens there, and because of land disputes. He started a war with Poland, not a world war. He knew what world wars did to Germany from his experience in WWI. Why would he want to ruin Germany with another world war?

Where did this myth come from that Hitler wanted to conquer the world?

Why doesn't the German government care that the evidence for the Holocaust is lacking?

There is one more benefit in Germany I forgot to list:

People get more vacation time and only have to work 6 hours a day. They get 2 hours for lunch breaks. And they do not live to work. One of my employers in the US told me about that since she has relatives there.

[germanguy]

Then why didn't Steffi Graf or her father pay the fine? Why was he in jail for so long? Is he still in jail?

Hitler invaded Poland to help free German citizens there, and because of land disputes. He started a war with Poland, not a world war. He knew what world wars did to Germany from his experience in WWI. Why would he want to ruin Germany with another world war?

Where did this myth come from that Hitler wanted to conquer the world?

Why doesn't the German government care that the evidence for the Holocaust is lacking?

There is one more benefit in Germany I forgot to list:

People get more vacation time and only have to work 6 hours a day. They get 2 hours for lunch breaks. And they do not live to work. One of my employers in the US told me about that since she has relatives there.

Most people work 8 hours a day + 1 hour lunch break. So in total 9 hours... Majority does extra hours on top of that. Not sure where you get these 6 hours a day from?

The German government is a puppet of the west so why would they try to tell German people that the Holocaust might not have been real? They have zero interest to do that...Their interest is to convince everyone that the WW2 and Holocaust have been terrible crimes commited by the German nation.

I dont know Steffi Graf´s case..Never heard about her father being in jail because of tax evasion. Couldn´t care less about it to be honest.

[mrmillersd]

honestly, do you think that to "reclaim german citizens in poland" is a legitimate excuse for military action? really? Those extremely small minority germans in poland didnt want it, and that violates SOVERIGNTY.

im not saying that us/uk/france isnt at fault, but if germany had stayed in its borders and not crossed anywhere else, ww2 wouldve been avoided/deterred.

or are you saying that if germany didnt remilitarize, uk/usa wouldve still declared war?


what if china invaded the USA to "free its citizens"? you think the UK/japan/france wouldnt declare war?

[mrmillersd]

also why do you hate liberalism? liberal values are the only thing that let us minorities into western countries in the first place. you want victorian era or highly consevative values? ok...first value would be no foreign immigration or interracial marriages

[jamesbond]

There is one more benefit in Germany I forgot to list:

People get more vacation time.

In Germany, you get 6 weeks paid vacation a year and 12 paid holidays!

Compare this to the USA, where workers get the LEAST amount of vacation time than any industrialized country in the world!

[germanguy]

you want victorian era or highly consevative values? ok...first value would be no foreign immigration or interracial marriages

interracial marriages wouldn´t even be needed if there was no liberalism in the west...

i just want to live in an society that is not trying to destroy every single value that has been established over thousands of years...that´s all i am asking for really. if you call this highly conservative then yes i want a society like that.

it´s kind of weird that every non-western country that i have been to still has these traditional values and that even the western countries had them until a few decades ago. so what you call conservative is in fact just "normal"...the real abnormality are current western countries.

and liberalism is the wrong word aswell... more likely then not you will have a lot more freedom in the countries the US declares to be unfree and oppressed.

[germanguy]

honestly, do you think that to "reclaim german citizens in poland" is a legitimate excuse for military action? really? Those extremely small minority germans in poland didnt want it, and that violates SOVERIGNTY.

im not saying that us/uk/france isnt at fault, but if germany had stayed in its borders and not crossed anywhere else, ww2 wouldve been avoided/deterred.

or are you saying that if germany didnt remilitarize, uk/usa wouldve still declared war?


what if china invaded the USA to "free its citizens"? you think the UK/japan/france wouldnt declare war?

Germany has started WW2, Winston is into conspiracy theories and more likely then not the WW2 is a conspiracy theory too in his mind.

[OutWest]

also why do you hate liberalism? liberal values are the only thing that let us minorities into western countries in the first place. you want victorian era or highly consevative values? ok...first value would be no foreign immigration or interracial marriages

Classical liberal values have very little to do with so called liberalism the has emerged in the
USA and Western Europe. The new so-called liberalism is totalitarian in nature and aspires to
totalitarianism, just as Obama has taken every abuse of the Bush years and put it on steroids.
Now with the NSA scandals in full bloom and many other similar abuses in his wake, even Western Europeans are starting to figure out that their great black liberal messiah from America is the total
fraud and aspiring despot that wiser men had already calculated.

Without stupid American women, there would be no President Obama. Don't lose site of
that simple fact.

As a friend observed, Obama talks his "liberal" bullshit, but in fact, his actions are far more repressive than Dick Cheney ever imagined.

Outwest