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88jose88
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if something self-sufficient existed,it would be inert,it's not even conventionally logical to believe in God or a soul

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I am a nihilist atheist,what I've found is that to believe in a unconditioned thing,a thing with no conditions,it's a self-contradicting belief.

why?

think about it,a thing with no conditions or qualities has no essence,as these are all synonyms.

even in a conventional sense,this doesn't fly.

Everything depends on something else,but even that is just conventional logic,the truth of reality is that it's just like a mirage,and ultimately is nothing.

We live in a simulation.

Space is the only 'unconditioned'as are shapes and numbers,but they are indeed inert.

and even then,space cannot exist without marks of space,and numbers are dependant on other numbers etc they're just conceptual.

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88jose88 wrote:
July 12th, 2024, 8:18 am
I am a nihilist atheist,what I've found is that to believe in a unconditioned thing,a thing with no conditions,it's a self-contradicting belief.

why?

think about it,a thing with no conditions or qualities has no essence,as these are all synonyms.

even in a conventional sense,this doesn't fly.

Everything depends on something else,but even that is just conventional logic,the truth of reality is that it's just like a mirage,and ultimately is nothing.

We live in a simulation.

Space is the only 'unconditioned'as are shapes and numbers,but they are indeed inert.

and even then,space cannot exist without marks of space,and numbers are dependant on other numbers etc they're just conceptual.
@Lucas88 calling on you to change your underpants. It was you who said that, right?

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MrMan wrote:
July 12th, 2024, 12:18 pm
88jose88 wrote:
July 12th, 2024, 8:18 am
I am a nihilist atheist,what I've found is that to believe in a unconditioned thing,a thing with no conditions,it's a self-contradicting belief.

why?

think about it,a thing with no conditions or qualities has no essence,as these are all synonyms.

even in a conventional sense,this doesn't fly.

Everything depends on something else,but even that is just conventional logic,the truth of reality is that it's just like a mirage,and ultimately is nothing.

We live in a simulation.

Space is the only 'unconditioned'as are shapes and numbers,but they are indeed inert.

and even then,space cannot exist without marks of space,and numbers are dependant on other numbers etc they're just conceptual.
@Lucas88 calling on you to change your underpants. It was you who said that, right?
A smear of me because you can't refute nihilism.rich.

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Re: if something self-sufficient existed,it would be inert,it's not even conventionally logical to believe in God or a s

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88jose88 wrote:
July 12th, 2024, 8:18 am
I am a nihilist atheist,what I've found is that to believe in a unconditioned thing,a thing with no conditions,it's a self-contradicting belief.

why?

think about it,a thing with no conditions or qualities has no essence,as these are all synonyms.

even in a conventional sense,this doesn't fly.

Everything depends on something else,but even that is just conventional logic,the truth of reality is that it's just like a mirage,and ultimately is nothing.

We live in a simulation.

Space is the only 'unconditioned'as are shapes and numbers,but they are indeed inert.

and even then,space cannot exist without marks of space,and numbers are dependant on other numbers etc they're just conceptual.
Allow me to enlighten you on where your nihilist atheism falls short. LaVey's philosophy embraces the very essence of the self and the tangible world, rather than retreating into the intellectual paralysis of nihilism. Your fixation on "unconditioned things" and the paradoxes therein is a pointless mental exercise that only serves to detach you further from the power you hold within.

You claim that everything is conditional, and thus meaningless. Instead of wallowing in the void, LaVeyan Satanism teaches us to recognize and exploit these conditions to our advantage. The belief in a simulation or a mirage of reality is a crutch, an excuse to avoid confronting the raw, visceral experience of existence.

Shapes, numbers, and space might be inert or conceptual, but they are tools—mere instruments for those of us who understand how to manipulate them to our benefit. By focusing on what you perceive as the ultimate nothingness, you miss the point entirely. The essence of LaVeyan thought is to harness one's will and dominate the world, not to dissolve into philosophical nihilism.

So while you sit and ponder the futility of it all, I will be out there, taking control, living life to the fullest, and bending reality to my will. That's the power LaVey unlocked: the realization that we, as individuals, are the ultimate architects of our destiny, not mere spectators in a meaningless universe.

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Re: if something self-sufficient existed,it would be inert,it's not even conventionally logical to believe in God or a s

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88jose88 wrote:
July 12th, 2024, 12:53 pm
MrMan wrote:
July 12th, 2024, 12:18 pm
88jose88 wrote:
July 12th, 2024, 8:18 am
I am a nihilist atheist,what I've found is that to believe in a unconditioned thing,a thing with no conditions,it's a self-contradicting belief.

why?

think about it,a thing with no conditions or qualities has no essence,as these are all synonyms.

even in a conventional sense,this doesn't fly.

Everything depends on something else,but even that is just conventional logic,the truth of reality is that it's just like a mirage,and ultimately is nothing.

We live in a simulation.

Space is the only 'unconditioned'as are shapes and numbers,but they are indeed inert.

and even then,space cannot exist without marks of space,and numbers are dependant on other numbers etc they're just conceptual.
@Lucas88 calling on you to change your underpants. It was you who said that, right?
A smear of me because you can't refute nihilism.rich.
I found your commentary to be idea salad, a notch above word salad. Stuff like this, "think about it,a thing with no conditions or qualities has no essence. Your using words, I'll give you that. But I'm not seeing much coherent meaning being conveyed.

If you will recall, another poster, Lucas88 I believe, said you changed religions as often as he changed underpants. It hasn't been weeks since you claimed to be a follower of one of those Black Hebrew movements.

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