Is it true black women have no options in the dating scene?

[Winston]

Just got this interesting letter today. Is it true?

Hi Winston,

I came a cross your site and started to realize it seems to be just for guys! I am a 37 y.o. black american female. You state many times that there are so many more single men than single women in America. You may not know this, but the exact opposite is true for "black America". It's so bad that I've even been seeing the problem described on the news!

Every generalization that you make on your site about men and women is actually the complete opposite for black americans. Black men have it made in this country, if they like black women. Just as your site exemplifies, black women are usually overlooked by other races. So what are we to do? There is an army of a million successful, attractive, black women here in america for your army of a million chinese men!

Anyway, I wanted to point that comparison out to you and suggest maybe you expand your site to be inclusive of women who may have the same problems you describe and are searching overseas. I am considering marrying a black man from a third world country who would appreciate me. I would also consider a man of another race.

Thanks,
Treva

[Contrarian Expatriate]

Black American women are the most dysfunctional and pathological women in the world. They are devoid of femininity and they tend to be man-hating from their earliest conditioning. I will not even touch on the issue of STD's and obesity.

Black women have taken this new "We are so successful that we have made ourselves too intimidating for black men" message to the press. It is a lie. Black men have realized that black women are social poison and they have voted with their feet.

If a man MUST have a black woman, he should find one in the Caribbean, Latin America, or some parts of Africa.

The world knows this about black American women and they are feeling ignored now. Well boo focking hoo!

[Pacsun]

Don't listen to anything a black woman says. Black women are worse than white women by a millionth percent. Black women are not more successful than black men. Black men are more successful and the success rate is by only 2 or 3 points. No one wants a black woman. Why? They sound, act and look masculine. Their attitudes are shitty. I could write a book about these idiots. Black women are the most insecure women on the planet. They always have to proof a point and no one cares. Black women have no options and never will.

[Think Different]

Funny thing...I would have NEVER considered dating a black woman from America, simply due to the points the other guys made above. The obnoxious attitude, chip on the shoulder, entitlement attitude that black American women usually have is a total turn-off, not to mention the fact that they're usually obscenely obese and have bad health.

On the other hand, I find the black women in many parts of Africa to be very beautiful, cultured, and intelligent, and had fate moved in such a way, I would've happily considered dating them (just never happened that way).

I recall back in college that there were exclusive black fraternities, sororities, interest groups, etc, and they were flat-out racist. No non-black was allowed to join. Don't get me started on what would've happened, had whites tried to form a "white fraternity", etc. Anyhow, these groups were always trying to recruit black Africans to join with them, but they wouldn't. The black Africans hung out with the whites and other international folks. They wanted nothing to do with the black American "experience" and bad attitudes. They told me as much, and said that even though Africa was a colonial continent for centuries, they got over it, and have moved on. They don't want to deal with America's reverse racism. One of things I hate about the US is the constant race-baiting and whining. Every fricking issue is turned into a racial issue, even if it is not remotely racist. I'll be happy to put that crap behind me, when I leave this place.

[BellaRuth]

On the other hand, I find the black women in many parts of Africa to be very beautiful, cultured, and intelligent, and had fate moved in such a way, I would've happily considered dating them (just never happened that way).

Seconded. Not met any black American women but have met quite a few from Africa- they have carried themselves like princesses, very beautiful indeed, calm, quiet and humble.

[Adama]

I'm quite sure that black women do have options. I went to school with a couple, and if you were to believe them, they each have new boyfriends on a weekly basis.

Now if we are talking about long term, loving relationships, then the odds are probably much lower for them. That's only an assumption on my part though. I just figure most family oriented men would stay away from them and their attitudes.

There are some men out there who like aggressive women though.

[momopi]

See this article:
http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2009/12/bla ... 1-for.html


Women prefers to marry men of superior socio-economic status, or at least equal. But there's a lot more (2:1) black women graduating from college than black men.

Men, on the other hand, tend to chase skirt based on beauty, so it doesn't matter if the girl is a college grad or not. Thus, black men of high socio-economic status can chase skirt across a wide spectrum, versus black women are limited in their choices.

I meet a well to do black gentlemen in Pasadena years ago at a Thai restaurant, we were waiting for a table and chatted briefly. He was highly educated, handsome, well dressed, and know how to look loaded & refined. I think the conversation started when I commented on his SLK convertible. I'd imagine many black girls in college would chase him, but noted that the girls at his table were skinny white model types.

[fschmidt]

Winston, the author of the letter is 37 years old. That is her problem, not her skin color.

[Rock]

Just got this interesting letter today. Is it true?

Hi Winston,

I came a cross your site and started to realize it seems to be just for guys! I am a 37 y.o. black american female. You state many times that there are so many more single men than single women in America. You may not know this, but the exact opposite is true for "black America". It's so bad that I've even been seeing the problem described on the news!

Every generalization that you make on your site about men and women is actually the complete opposite for black americans. Black men have it made in this country, if they like black women. Just as your site exemplifies, black women are usually overlooked by other races. So what are we to do? There is an army of a million successful, attractive, black women here in america for your army of a million chinese men!

Anyway, I wanted to point that comparison out to you and suggest maybe you expand your site to be inclusive of women who may have the same problems you describe and are searching overseas. I am considering marrying a black man from a third world country who would appreciate me. I would also consider a man of another race.

Thanks,
Treva

Hi Treva. Hope you read this:

1. Black American females apparently don't have a great rep w/guys on this site. But even if it is deserved (I'm not saying it is), there would still be plenty of exceptions to the stereotype. If you are as nice and sincere as you sound, I'm sure Winston would welcome you to this site just as he has other women.

2. I do believe decent looking black guys in the States have it made dating and mating wise. Forgive me for being non PC in what I state below (Isn't that what Winston preaches his site is about) but:

a. a relatively high percentage of young black American men end-up dead or in jail at a young age swinging demographics in favor of those who do not

b. a large percentage of black American women are strongly conditioned within their own culture to date only black males while many white, Asian, and even Latino guys prefer dating other whites, Asians, or Latinas over blacks.

c. a substantial percentage (I would estimate well above 30%) of white American females are attracted to black guys and many openly date and procreate with them

d. common stereotypes which may or may not be entirely true emphasized by media build up US black males as most athletic, masculine, big dicked, tough, entertaining, cool and hip, etc, attracting more girls to them

3. @37 you're still young looking and attractive if you've kept yourself up. On average, blacks age better than whites and even Asians as long as they avoid putting on the weight. Your idea, of going abroad ala "When Stella Got Her Groove Back" sounds great to me. I believe decent black American guys, just like white American girls, tend to be picky given supply/demand dynamics which strongly favor them (hey black American guys, please chime in if you don't agree with any of this). So where should you go and who should you date? You need to research this. But I know many middle aged gals search for fun or romance in Kenya (Mombasa, read "White Masai), Jamaica, and Dominican Republic. Perhaps Salvador Brazil too. Also consider Nigeria. I've heard Yoruba and Ibo women expect a lot from their men which has conditioned them accordingly. You might visit some of the smaller English speaking west African countries such as Liberia or Ghana if you're more adventurous. If you are willing to consider non-blacks, then many possibilities open up - Turkey, Indonesia (Bali), and parts of Italy just to name a few.

[rome86]

black american women are not good compared to black african women ..they have an attitude problem i have tried them and I would never try it again.

[Think Different]

Just got this interesting letter today. Is it true?

Hi Winston,

I came a cross your site and started to realize it seems to be just for guys! I am a 37 y.o. black american female. You state many times that there are so many more single men than single women in America. You may not know this, but the exact opposite is true for "black America". It's so bad that I've even been seeing the problem described on the news!

Every generalization that you make on your site about men and women is actually the complete opposite for black americans. Black men have it made in this country, if they like black women. Just as your site exemplifies, black women are usually overlooked by other races. So what are we to do? There is an army of a million successful, attractive, black women here in america for your army of a million chinese men!

Anyway, I wanted to point that comparison out to you and suggest maybe you expand your site to be inclusive of women who may have the same problems you describe and are searching overseas. I am considering marrying a black man from a third world country who would appreciate me. I would also consider a man of another race.

Thanks,
Treva

Hi Treva. Hope you read this:

1. Black American females apparently don't have a great rep w/guys on this site. But even if it is deserved (I'm not saying it is), there would still be plenty of exceptions to the stereotype. If you are as nice and sincere as you sound, I'm sure Winston would welcome you to this site just as he has other women.

2. I do believe decent looking black guys in the States have it made dating and mating wise. Forgive me for being non PC in what I state below (Isn't that what Winston preaches his site is about) but:

a. a relatively high percentage of young black American men end-up dead or in jail at a young age swinging demographics in favor of those who do not

b. a large percentage of black American women are strongly conditioned within their own culture to date only black males while many white, Asian, and even Latino guys prefer dating other whites, Asians, or Latinas over blacks.

c. a substantial percentage (I would estimate well above 30%) of white American females are attracted to black guys and many openly date and procreate with them

d. common stereotypes which may or may not be entirely true emphasized by media build up US black males as most athletic, masculine, big dicked, tough, entertaining, cool and hip, etc, attracting more girls to them

3. @37 you're still young looking and attractive if you've kept yourself up. On average, blacks age better than whites and even Asians as long as they avoid putting on the weight. Your idea, of going abroad ala "When Stella Got Her Groove Back" sounds great to me. I believe decent black American guys, just like white American girls, tend to be picky given supply/demand dynamics which strongly favor them (hey black American guys, please chime in if you don't agree with any of this). So where should you go and who should you date? You need to research this. But I know many middle aged gals search for fun or romance in Kenya (Mombasa, read "White Masai), Jamaica, and Dominican Republic. Perhaps Salvador Brazil too. Also consider Nigeria. I've heard Yoruba and Ibo women expect a lot from their men which has conditioned them accordingly. You might visit some of the smaller English speaking west African countries such as Liberia or Ghana if you're more adventurous. If you are willing to consider non-blacks, then many possibilities open up - Turkey, Indonesia (Bali), and parts of Italy just to name a few.

Treva,

I can attest to the fact that many Europeans LOVE hooking up with blacks, although their experience is primarily with those from Africa, not the USA. Don't let that deter you. If you take good care of yourself, and are open to other cultures, you could get far in Europe. What WILL NOT work for you outside the US, is the typical Black American victimization hangups of "racism", "slave history", and the chip on the shoulder attitude. In Europe for example, everyone's family has suffered something, the wars, concentration camps, expulsion, changes of borders/nationality, etc., etc. So, just find your inner lady and forget the "American" issues that may define you in America. Outside of the US borders, you are no longer in America, and no one cares about your "issues". Good luck!

[dano]

black american women are not good compared to black african women ..they have an attitude problem i have tried them and I would never try it again.

I agree with you on this point .

Jamaican women are more like black american women generally speaking, except there much more friendly.
Jamaica is a matriarchal society. The women are promiscuous before marriage which undermines male patriarchy.

[E_Irizarry]

On the other hand, I find the black women in many parts of Africa to be very beautiful, cultured, and intelligent, and had fate moved in such a way, I would've happily considered dating them (just never happened that way).

Seconded. Not met any black American women but have met quite a few from Africa- they have carried themselves like princesses, very beautiful indeed, calm, quiet and humble.

Especially the ones mixed with Arabic blood (e.g. Eritean, Somalian, among a couple of others).

[username]

Don't listen to anything a black woman says. Black women are worse than white women by a millionth percent. Black women are not more successful than black men. Black men are more successful and the success rate is by only 2 or 3 points. No one wants a black woman. Why? They sound, act and look masculine. Their attitudes are shitty. I could write a book about these idiots. Black women are the most insecure women on the planet. They always have to proof a point and no one cares. Black women have no options and never will.

This post is ridiculously offensive and racist ("don't listen to anything a black woman says." If someone said "don't listen to anything a black person says" there would, and rightfully, be an uproar). First, you start of by insulting every Black woman by venomously trashing their femininity (or lack of): their sound, act and look. Not all Black people act the same, so logically that not all Black women act the same. As for looks or voice, that is something that cannot be helped and it depends on the individual*. And to top it off, right after you've said this you conclude that a Black woman, you say Black women are the most insecure women on the planet? Considering what Black people have gone through in America for the past centuries (enslavement, Jim Crow, murder, rape, lynching, the list goes on) which contrary to popular belief the country is still not in African American's favor, I think Blacks have made tremendous amount of progress and I quite frankly do not think any other race could have endured all of that and not perish.

No, Black women are more successful than Black men. Not by a large margin I don't imagine, but a significant amount where most people take notice. The idea that Black women do not have options is very nonsensical. All people of all walks of life have options in dating. If you are a kindhearted and pleasant person, there will be someone out there that will take interested in you (race being irrelevant). Its also noteworthy that Black women overwhelmingly prefer their own men.

*It is a racist stereotype to say all Black people look the same, which ironically couldn't be more opposite. Black people are the most diverse looking people on earth. They come in all shades, facial features, hair textures, etc.

On the other hand, I find the black women in many parts of Africa to be very beautiful, cultured, and intelligent, and had fate moved in such a way, I would've happily considered dating them (just never happened that way).

Seconded. Not met any black American women but have met quite a few from Africa- they have carried themselves like princesses, very beautiful indeed, calm, quiet and humble.

Especially the ones mixed with Arabic blood (e.g. Eritean, Somalian, among a couple of others).

What do you mean mixed with Arabic blood? But yes they are all very beautiful. So are Ethiopian, Nigerians, Kenyan, etc.

[have2fly]

Considering what Black people have gone through in America for the past centuries (enslavement, Jim Crow, murder, rape, lynching, the list goes on)

Do all the black people who hate me everyday KNOW what my family have gone through? Second World war, I had a lot of my relatives killed, my grandmother had huge scars from German bombings. I survived through gangs, unsafe living neighborhood, complete destruction of the economy after breakup of USSR, there was no food in the stores, no clothes, no money etc etc etc. But I had the strength to establish my life in the US.

Blacks hate me for being white and I can't even say damn thing back because "it will be racist". They don't even know that I am an immigrant, but they hate me right away. The attitude is freaking terrible. What prevents blacks from getting degrees? Graduating from high school? Oh, they live in poor conditions, oh they don't have money. Bull SHIT! They were born in this country, they went to high schools and some didn't even graduate. High schools in the US are totally "for dummies", what people learn in European 6th grade US students get during senior year of high school and still FAIL their tests!

So please, all that "blacks suffered" crap? Europeans had gone through total destruction, lost all of their families, suffered through shortages of everything, BUT they remember how to be a decent human being. I am NOT racist, I LOVE African blacks, I met lots of blacks in Europe and they were wonderful people. My Russian friend is dating one black African girl and she is the sweetest thing I've ever seen. We all know what Africans go through, but she never gave me any attitude.

I hate ghetto culture, I hate thug lifestyle, weed-smoking idiots etc. There are some 5-10% of blacks in America that are great and educated people. I would totally date an educated black girl, but not a piece of ghetto trash with STD's and attitude.