Is Our Earth FLAT and Motionless, Not a Spinning Globe?

[TruthSeeker]

This video claims that communications satellites are in a geostationary orbit 36,000 km above the earth and moving 13,000 km/h to keep them locked with the earth's rotation.



This video also states that "the lifetime of a satellite in space is mainly determined by the amount of fuel it carries for these station keeping maneuvers", but what happens when a satellite runs out of fuel? It is then rendered useless?

[Pinayhunter]

I’m having trouble visualizing how solar analemmas would work on the flat Earth model. Wouldn’t it just be a straight line and not a figure-8? Even if the sun changes altitude with the seasons, it would still appear as a straight line.

I can’t find any good flat Earth videos or diagrams on this phenomenon. It’s a major sticking point for me. I still believe in geocentrism though.

[Winston]

A satellite requires a speed of 17,450 miles per hour in order to maintain a low Earth orbit. Satellites in higher orbits travel more slowly; for example, a geostationary satellite only orbits at 6,858 miles per hour.

That's interesting. I also Binged earth rotation speed at equator

At the equator, the circumference of the Earth is 40,070 kilometers, and the day is 24 hours long so the speed is 1670 kilometers/hour (1037 miles/hr).

Holy cow. At mach 17 or even mach 7, there's no way you could take a photo of an object. You'd be lucky to even get a blur. Most likely you could not even see the object, not even as a blur. I think the satellites you see in images online are either artist renditions or CGI or drawings. Not real photos. Or perhaps they take photos of the satellites on the ground before launching them into space?

How did so many thousands of satellites get into space? Wouldn't there have to be hundreds of rocket launches into space everyday to put them there? If so, where are these launches exactly? Isn't the public allowed to see them?

[Winston]

The sun’s not what we’ve been told.

Sun caught shining through the firmament and circling above Earth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrcIWqGI-uE

Looks like the sun’s reflecting off some glass dome above. Also notice how the sun changes in diameter and moves through an arc as it rises and sets.

The sun gets smaller as it moves away from us:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1TUpNkHcAM

For those who still don’t think the sun gets smaller and moves away from us as it “sets.” You can clearly see this happening when the air is dry enough and there’s minimal atmospheric distortion.

Eclipse points to hyper-dimensional luminaries:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdjRkHg58B0

There are no words. You have to see this for yourself. Even I was shocked.

Regardless of whether the earth is flat or not, I find it hard to believe the Sun is 90 million miles away. It certainly does not look or feel that far away by any means.

Question for globe earthers and those who believe in official astronomy science here:

Suppose no one had ever told you that the Sun was 90 million miles away and you knew nothing about astronomy or what official science claims. And you looked up at the Sun. Would you guess upon inspection that it was 90 million miles away or much closer? Be honest please. Pretend no one ever told you anything about the Sun and you were basing it off what you see and estimate only, based on visual inspection alone.

[gsjackson]

The sun’s not what we’ve been told.

Sun caught shining through the firmament and circling above Earth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrcIWqGI-uE

Looks like the sun’s reflecting off some glass dome above. Also notice how the sun changes in diameter and moves through an arc as it rises and sets.

The sun gets smaller as it moves away from us:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1TUpNkHcAM

For those who still don’t think the sun gets smaller and moves away from us as it “sets.” You can clearly see this happening when the air is dry enough and there’s minimal atmospheric distortion.

Eclipse points to hyper-dimensional luminaries:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdjRkHg58B0

There are no words. You have to see this for yourself. Even I was shocked.

Regardless of whether the earth is flat or not, I find it hard to believe the Sun is 90 million miles away. It certainly does not look or feel that far away by any means.

Question for globe earthers and those who believe in official astronomy science here:

Suppose no one had ever told you that the Sun was 90 million miles away and you knew nothing about astronomy or what official science claims. And you looked up at the Sun. Would you guess upon inspection that it was 90 million miles away or much closer? Be honest please. Pretend no one ever told you anything about the Sun and you were basing it off what you see and estimate only, based on visual inspection alone.

No, of course not. It looks about 200-300 miles away, and to my eye looks closer when you're only 35,000 feet up in an airplane. Everything about currently accepted cosmology is a complete refutation of our common sense, what we can see and feel.

BTW, the ISS is supposed to be going 17,000 mph also. When the residents come outside for a space walk are they going 17,000 mph too? Or does the vehicle come to a stop to accommodate the stroll outside?

[TruthSeeker]

BTW, the ISS is supposed to be going 17,000 mph also. When the residents come outside for a space walk are they going 17,000 mph too? Or does the vehicle come to a stop to accommodate the stroll outside?

In theory, your astro-not would be moving at the same speed as the ISS, but what comes to mind is what about all the space junk outside? According to nasa.gov, space junk is moving very fast.

Most "space junk" is moving very fast. It can reach speeds of 4.3 to 5 miles per second. Five miles per second is about 18,000 miles per hour. That's almost seven times faster than a bullet. Since it is moving so quickly, a tiny piece of orbital debris can cause a lot of damage.

What happens if space junk hits the ISS or one of the astro-nots while he's outside on a space walk? How do they account for this? Wouldn't the ISS have been hit by space junk by now?

[Winston]

Team debate between Flat Earthers vs Globe Earthers.

[MrMan]

Team debate between Flat Earthers vs Globe Earthers.

I got nearly half way through and no one had presented any specific evidence on the topic.

[Winston]

I got nearly half way through and no one had presented any specific evidence on the topic.

I agree. I watched it and it was a waste of time. lol. The three on each side mostly gave stupid soundbytes and cliches. They didn't discuss actual evidence on either side. I guess the show is kind of amateurish and isn't well organized. There was no moderator. None of the guests were that knowledgeable either it seems.

[Winston]

Adama asked me these good questions. Anyone have an answer to them?

They say the moon is leaving the orbit of the earth slowly. We are losing the moon. Don't they say that? They say before, the moon was much closer. If that is the case, then why do eclipses show the moon and the sun to be very much the same size? How can that be when the moon is leaving the earth's orbit? The sun and the moon could not be the same size during eclipses, if the moon is leaving us.

Another thing. Since space is a vacuum, how does heat travel in a vacuum? How does the sun's heat travel through space? I don't think it would be possible for heat to travel in space, the same way sound shouldnt be able to travel in space: it needs something to vibrate against.

God basically tells us that science is fake. He calls it "science falsely so called" which means science is fake.

Knowing what I know now, I find it hard to watch a PBS or NOVA special about the solar system, space and astrophysics. You know they are ruled by Satan. Why else would they feel so compelled to tell lies?

[Yohan]

Since space is a vacuum, how does heat travel in a vacuum? How does the sun's heat travel through space?

Yes, heat can move in a vacuum, as it is a form of infrared radiation.

[Winston]

@Neo,

You will love this guy named Robert Skiba. He's a Christian Flat Earther too. He is funny, entertaining, likable and humble too. And he makes fun of himself, so he's not arrogant, because arrogant men don't make fun of themselves. He's a good speaker, very likable. You will enjoy his lectures. Here is a long one he did called "Genesis Revelation Part 1" where he shows you all the BIble verses that say that the Earth is flat with a dome over it (the firmament) and sits on four pillars, like a snowglobe, which is what most ancient cultures believed, not just the Hebrews. He also plays important clips from other speakers and shows how ridiculous Atheists get when they posit the "multiple universe theory to explain the fine tuning enigma". He also shows you a clip about why the Earth can't be billions of years old, but only 6,000, with a barrage of scientific arguments using linear logic, which is interesting. This lecture is 2 hrs and 26 min, but very interesting and enjoyable. I think you will like it. See below. (Besides, during this lockdown, what else are you gonna do? lol)



Here is his channel. He's done a lot of interviews and lectures.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoiIt_ ... 5LmrdIU2aw

[Winston]

Neo,
You will love this lecture in Amsterdam by Rob Skiba where he exposes NASA. He has the same views as you. What's ironic is that this is the country that exposed the fake moon rock given to the Dutch Queen by the Apollo 11 Astronauts, which turned out to be petrified wood.

In this segment from the 2nd lecture I gave in Amsterdam, I give plenty of evidence to show that NASA is not to be trusted - beginning with the meaning of the word "nasa" in Hebrew. I found it more than poetic that I was able to do so in the nation that exposed at least one of the moon rocks are fraudulent.

[Winston]

Check out this comparison and difference.

Apollo 11 crew during their Pre-Launch Press Conference.



Apollo 11 crew during their Post-Mission Press Conference.

[Neo]

Neo,

You will love this guy named Robert Skiba. He's a Christian Flat Earther too. He is funny, entertaining, likable and humble too. And he makes fun of himself, so he's not arrogant, because arrogant men don't make fun of themselves. He's a good speaker, very likable. You will enjoy his lectures. Here is a long one he did called "Genesis Revelation Part 1" where he shows you all the BIble verses that say that the Earth is flat with a dome over it (the firmament) and sits on four pillars, like a snowglobe, which is what most ancient cultures believed, not just the Hebrews. He also plays important clips from other speakers and shows how ridiculous Atheists get when they posit the "multiple universe theory to explain the fine tuning enigma". He also shows you a clip about why the Earth can't be billions of years old, but only 6,000, with a barrage of scientific arguments using linear logic, which is interesting. This lecture is 2 hrs and 26 min, but very interesting and enjoyable. I think you will like it. See below. (Besides, during this lockdown, what else are you gonna do? lol)



Here is his channel. He's done a lot of interviews and lectures.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoiIt_ ... 5LmrdIU2aw

Thanks, for the link. Rob Skiba is up there with Eric Dubay in terms of the Flat Earth.

This topic is one that I've mostly completed. I've moved onto other conspiracies, specifically ones about politics and history. The rabbit hole truly runs deep. It seems that much of history is a gross distortion of the truth. These run so deep that they can't even be mentioned to most people. Their minds cannot grasp it and will react with hate. The true nature of things is very different from that which we've been led to believe. But how could a person ever explain that? People have to discover it for themselves, and many people simply will have no interest.