Hi Everyone,
I'm trying to decide what country would be best for me. There are so many factors to consider and so many choices.
Now the things I have to take into consideration are:
1. DISADVANTAGES:
Since I'm quite ugly and awkward, I have reached the conclusion that I would have to rely on some sort of "Sugar Daddy" type relationship with women. However, I don't want to catch a disease and therefore the relationship would have to be a long term exclusive type relationship. Therefore, I would have to go to some country where the average income is quite low. Although I'd like a normal girlfriend, just by looking in the mirror it is clear that having one is unlikely.
2. ADVANTAGE:
The one advantage that I have is that I can earn my income from anywhere that I have internet access. I make between $2,000 and $2,500 per month. While this is low in the US, it might be high in some poor foreign countries. I need to find the country that maximizes this advantage.
3. CHOOSING A COUNTRY
a. Since I only find White women attractive, the country would have to either be predominately White or have at least a significant minority that was White.
b. I would prefer that the Women have very pale skin and natural light blond hair. However, this isn't a requirement as brunette White women are still attractive.
c. Wages would have to be low so that I would be able to afford a Sugar Babe.
d. The cost of living would have to be low so that I would have money left over to spend on my Sugar Babe.
e. I would prefer that the country be relatively safe. However, if necessary I can accept that the country won't be as safe as the US. But I don't want to be living in a country that is in the middle of a civil war.
f. I would like it if the country had at least some civil liberties protections. As a foreigner, it seems one could be easily used as a scapegoat. Therefore, it would be nice if the country had a system of justice where the accused is "innocent until proven guilty."
4. HOW TO FIND A SUGAR BABE
For those who are not familiar, a Sugar Babe is basically a long term exclusive paid girlfriend. This differs from a pro in that the relationship is long term and exclusive and therefore has a much lower disease risk. I would like to learn from others on this forum how you were able to find Sugar Babes who aren't pros.
5. AVOIDING DISEASE AND MAKING SURE THE SUGAR BABE IS FAITHFUL
Since I don't want to get a disease I obviously have to find a way to make sure that the Sugar Babe doesn't have a disease and is faithful to me. Now it is important to note that, even with the best disease tests, it takes a MONTH or so after a person is infected for detectable antibodies to show. Since I don't want a disease, I would have to do the following:
a. Have the Sugar Babe tested for all diseases
b. Have the Sugar Babe agree not to be with other guys for a month and have some sort of way of making sure she isn't with other guys during this time.
c. Have her tested again after a month to make sure she didn't catch a disease in the time period before the arrangement started.
d. After she is tested have some sort of way of making sure she stays faithful.
Since I wouldn't be able to do anything with her during the first month it therefore follows that the longer the duration of the relationship the better. But since I'm very ugly I would have to pay her a lot. Therefore, I would probably have to save up a lot of money so I could buy like 6 month blocks of time.
Would this be prohibitively expensive even in a poor country?
Any guesses as to how much it would cost to have a 6 month exclusive
relationship with a Sugar Babe in a poor but predominately White country?
6. HOW TO AVOID EXTORTION AND OTHER PROBLEMS
I have read cases where certain Women attempt to extort men they think are rich by accusing the guy of a crime and filing a civil suit or through some other extortion scheme. To explain what I mean by this, look at the Duke Lacrosse case. I want to know from other guys who have had Sugar Daddy relationships, how do you avoid getting scammed or extorted by your Sugar Babe?
7. OTHER HINTS AND TIPS
I'd also like to hear any other hints and tips for:
a. Choosing the correct country
b. What to do in Sugar Daddy relationships.
8. MADE UP EXAMPLE
Below is a made up example showing how I might go about choosing the right country. The numbers in this example are just made up but it is the best way I can think to show how I would choose a country. In this made up example, I'm comparing Argentina, Bulgaria, and Estonia.
--------------------------------------------------------------------ARGENTINA-----BULGARIA-------ESTONIA
My monthly income---------------------------------------------$2,000-----------$2,000-----------$2,000
How much I would have to spend on necessities----------$750-------------$1,000----------$1,100
How much I would need to spend on taxes----------------$500-------------$500-------------$500
How much is left over to save for a Sugar Babe----------$750-------------$500-------------$400
Monthly cost of Brunette Sugar Babe in her 20s----------$3,000-----------$2,500-----------$2,000
Monthly cost of Blond Sugar Babe in her 20s--------------$7,500----------$10,000---------$4,000
Now in this made up example:
In Argentina I could have:
A Brunette 25% of the time since $750 / 3000 = 0.25.
A Blond 10% of the time
In Bulgaria I could have:
A Brunette 20% of the time and
A Blond 5% of the time
In Estonia I could have:
A Brunette 20% of the time and
A Blond 10% of the time
In other words, the more money I can save each month in the country the better. In this example, Argentina is the best choice because, even though the Sugar Babe costs more, I can save more and therefore spend more of my time with a Sugar Babe. Now if the Estonian Blond were $2,000 a month instead of $4,000 a month, and I could afford one 20% of the time I would prefer it because an Estonian Blond woman would be more attractive than a Brunette Argentinian woman. Therefore, 20% of my time with a Blond Estonian would be worth more than 25% of my time with the Brunette Argentinian. However, 25% with the Brunette is worth more than 10% with the Blond.
Now when I say 25% of my time, what I mean is that, I would probably have to save money for several months in order to afford a Sugar Babe. So, for example, say I wanted to have an Argentinian Brunette Sugar Babe, and assume that the numbers I made up are correct. To have her for 6 months I would have to save $3,000 * 6 = $18,000. This would take $18,000 / $750 = 24 months or 2 years. So I would spend 6 months out of every 2 years with a Sugar Babe. While being alone 75% of the time might seem depressing it is much better than in the US where I am alone 100% of the time. My goal is to find a relatively safe country I can live in that maximizes the percent of time that I am with an attractive woman.
Thanks in advance to anyone who has suggestions or ideas!
Help Me Choose a Country
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Help Me Choose a Country
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Holy dog shit, you are really serious about finding a sugar babe!
I don't know much about that, maybe some of the other guys here have had some experience in this department. Your right about the fact that your $ 25,000 a year salary in a poor country will be impressive to a girl living in that poor country.
It sounds like you have really put a lot of thought into this. I know that eastern Europe and Russia are very good countries to go to if you want a hot white chick, as there are a lot of good looking women in those countries and very few overweight women. I am sure other guys here can give you more specific information.

It sounds like you have really put a lot of thought into this. I know that eastern Europe and Russia are very good countries to go to if you want a hot white chick, as there are a lot of good looking women in those countries and very few overweight women. I am sure other guys here can give you more specific information.
"When I think about the idea of getting involved with an American woman, I don't know if I should laugh .............. or vomit!"
"Trying to meet women in America is like trying to decipher Egyptian hieroglyphics."
"Trying to meet women in America is like trying to decipher Egyptian hieroglyphics."
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I searched online for a list of countries with per capita GDP's under $15,000.
This is the source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... per_capita
I used the CIA World Factbook statistic.
The ones I found were:
ARAB COUNTRIES
$ 500 ------ Afghanistan
$ 4,600 ------ Algeria
$ 2,700 ------ Egypt
$ 2,800 ------ Iraq
$ 4,200 ------ Jordan
$ 9,500 ------ Lebanon
$ 12,100 ------ Libya
$ 2,900 ------ Morocco
$ 1,000 ------ Pakistan
$ 2,700 ------ Syria
$ 4,100 ------ Tunisia
$ 9,400 ------ Turkey
$ 1,700 ------ West Bank and Gaza
$ 1,300 ------ Yemen
ASIAN COUNTRIES
$ 600 ------ Burma
$ 800 ------ Cambodia
$ 4,300 ------ China, People's Republic of
$ 1,200 ------ Korea, North
$ 900 ------ Laos
$ 1,900 ------ Mongolia
$ 1,400 ------ Papua New Guinea
$ 1,900 ------ Philippines
$ 4,600 ------ Thailand
$ 1,100 ------ Vietnam
BLACK COUNTRIES
$ 6,500 ------ Angola
$ 11,900 ------ Anguilla
$ 12,700 ------ Antigua and Barbuda
$ 13,900 ------ Barbados
$ 700 ------ Benin
$ 6,200 ------ Botswana
$ 500 ------ Burkina Faso
$ 200 ------ Burundi
$ 1,100 ------ Cameroon
$ 3,100 ------ Cape Verde
$ 400 ------ Central African Republic
$ 700 ------ Chad
$ 700 ------ Comoros
$ 200 ------ Congo, Democratic Republic of the
$ 2,900 ------ Congo, Republic of the
$ 1,100 ------ Côte d'Ivoire
$ 1,500 ------ Djibouti
$ 5,100 ------ Dominica
$ 5,200 ------ Dominican Republic
$ 300 ------ Eritrea
$ 400 ------ Ethiopia
$ 8,100 ------ Gabon
$ 400 ------ Gambia, The
$ 600 ------ Ghana
$ 6,000 ------ Grenada
$ 400 ------ Guinea
$ 300 ------ Guinea-Bissau
$ 700 ------ Haiti
$ 4,800 ------ Jamaica
$ 900 ------ Kenya
$ 700 ------ Lesotho
$ 300 ------ Liberia
$ 400 ------ Madagascar
$ 300 ------ Malawi
$ 600 ------ Mali
$ 1,100 ------ Mauritania
$ 7,300 ------ Mauritius
$ 500 ------ Mozambique
$ 5,400 ------ Namibia
$ 400 ------ Niger
$ 1,400 ------ Nigeria
$ 500 ------ Rwanda
$ 11,200 ------ Saint Kitts and Nevis
$ 5,500 ------ Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
$ 1,100 ------ São Tomé and PrÃncipe
$ 900 ------ Senegal
$ 10,400 ------ Seychelles
$ 400 ------ Sierra Leone
$ 300 ------ Somalia
$ 1,500 ------ Sudan
$ 2,300 ------ Swaziland
$ 500 ------ Tanzania
$ 500 ------ Togo
$ 500 ------ Uganda
$ 3,200 ------ Vanuatu
$ 1,200 ------ Zambia
SOUTH ASIAN INDIAN COUNTRIES
$ 600 ------ Bangladesh
$ 2,000 ------ Bhutan
$ 1,200 ------ India
$ 3,600 ------ Maldives
$ 400 ------ Nepal
$ 2,200 ------ Sri Lanka
------
STANS - Are they White or Asian?
$ 8,400 ------ Kazakhstan
$ 800 ------ Kyrgyzstan
$ 700 ------ Tajikistan
$ 3,600 ------ Turkmenistan
$ 1,300 ------ Uzbekistan
------
MESTIZO COUNTRIES
$ 1,900 ------ Bolivia
$ 11,800 ------ Chile
$ 7,700 ------ Costa Rica
$ 5,000 ------ Cuba
$ 4,200 ------ Ecuador
$ 3,600 ------ El Salvador
$ 3,000 ------ Guatemala
$ 1,900 ------ Honduras
$ 1,100 ------ Nicaragua
$ 10,400 ------ Venezuela
MIXED COUNTRIES
$ 4,500 ------ Belize
$ 10,100 ------ Brazil
$ 6,400 ------ Colombia
$ 2,900 ------ Guyana
$ 9,000 ------ Mexico
$ 7,900 ------ Panama
$ 2,700 ------ Paraguay
$ 5,100 ------ Peru
$ 6,100 ------ Saint Lucia
$ 7,200 ------ South Africa
$ 6,700 ------ Suriname
POLYNESIAN COUNTRIES
$ 7,400 ------ American Samoa
$ 13,500 ------ Cook Islands
$ 3,600 ------ Fiji
$ 2,900 ------ Indonesia
$ 1,500 ------ Kiribati
$ 7,700 ------ Malaysia
$ 2,600 ------ Marshall Islands
$ 2,200 ------ Micronesia, Federated States of
$ 4,700 ------ Niue
$ 9,100 ------ Northern Mariana Islands
$ 7,900 ------ Palau
$ 2,900 ------ Samoa
$ 1,200 ------ Solomon Islands
$ 500 ------ Timor-Leste
$ 2,500 ------ Tonga
$ 1,500 ------ Tuvalu
WHITE COUNTRIES
$ 3,800 ------ Albania
$ 8,500 ------ Argentina
$ 2,900 ------ Armenia
$ 6,200 ------ Azerbaijan
$ 5,500 ------ Belarus
$ 3,500 ------ Bosnia and Herzegovina
$ 6,200 ------ Bulgaria
$ 13,400 ------ Croatia
$ 14,800 ------ Estonia
$ 2,400 ------ Georgia
$ 13,200 ------ Hungary
$ 4,400 ------ Iran
$ 1,800 ------ Kosovo
$ 10,500 ------ Latvia
$ 10,100 ------ Lithuania
$ 4,600 ------ Macedonia, Republic of
$ 1,500 ------ Moldova
$ 5,800 ------ Montenegro
$ 11,400 ------ Poland
$ 7,200 ------ Romania
$ 10,600 ------ Russia
$ 5,300 ------ Serbia
$ 3,000 ------ Ukraine
$ 11,600 ------ Uruguay
Obviously, I'm most interested in the White Countries. However, some of the Mixed Countries might be OK if the White Women living there are in lower demand than the women of other races.
Thanks! Let me know if you have any input!
This is the source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... per_capita
I used the CIA World Factbook statistic.
The ones I found were:
ARAB COUNTRIES
$ 500 ------ Afghanistan
$ 4,600 ------ Algeria
$ 2,700 ------ Egypt
$ 2,800 ------ Iraq
$ 4,200 ------ Jordan
$ 9,500 ------ Lebanon
$ 12,100 ------ Libya
$ 2,900 ------ Morocco
$ 1,000 ------ Pakistan
$ 2,700 ------ Syria
$ 4,100 ------ Tunisia
$ 9,400 ------ Turkey
$ 1,700 ------ West Bank and Gaza
$ 1,300 ------ Yemen
ASIAN COUNTRIES
$ 600 ------ Burma
$ 800 ------ Cambodia
$ 4,300 ------ China, People's Republic of
$ 1,200 ------ Korea, North
$ 900 ------ Laos
$ 1,900 ------ Mongolia
$ 1,400 ------ Papua New Guinea
$ 1,900 ------ Philippines
$ 4,600 ------ Thailand
$ 1,100 ------ Vietnam
BLACK COUNTRIES
$ 6,500 ------ Angola
$ 11,900 ------ Anguilla
$ 12,700 ------ Antigua and Barbuda
$ 13,900 ------ Barbados
$ 700 ------ Benin
$ 6,200 ------ Botswana
$ 500 ------ Burkina Faso
$ 200 ------ Burundi
$ 1,100 ------ Cameroon
$ 3,100 ------ Cape Verde
$ 400 ------ Central African Republic
$ 700 ------ Chad
$ 700 ------ Comoros
$ 200 ------ Congo, Democratic Republic of the
$ 2,900 ------ Congo, Republic of the
$ 1,100 ------ Côte d'Ivoire
$ 1,500 ------ Djibouti
$ 5,100 ------ Dominica
$ 5,200 ------ Dominican Republic
$ 300 ------ Eritrea
$ 400 ------ Ethiopia
$ 8,100 ------ Gabon
$ 400 ------ Gambia, The
$ 600 ------ Ghana
$ 6,000 ------ Grenada
$ 400 ------ Guinea
$ 300 ------ Guinea-Bissau
$ 700 ------ Haiti
$ 4,800 ------ Jamaica
$ 900 ------ Kenya
$ 700 ------ Lesotho
$ 300 ------ Liberia
$ 400 ------ Madagascar
$ 300 ------ Malawi
$ 600 ------ Mali
$ 1,100 ------ Mauritania
$ 7,300 ------ Mauritius
$ 500 ------ Mozambique
$ 5,400 ------ Namibia
$ 400 ------ Niger
$ 1,400 ------ Nigeria
$ 500 ------ Rwanda
$ 11,200 ------ Saint Kitts and Nevis
$ 5,500 ------ Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
$ 1,100 ------ São Tomé and PrÃncipe
$ 900 ------ Senegal
$ 10,400 ------ Seychelles
$ 400 ------ Sierra Leone
$ 300 ------ Somalia
$ 1,500 ------ Sudan
$ 2,300 ------ Swaziland
$ 500 ------ Tanzania
$ 500 ------ Togo
$ 500 ------ Uganda
$ 3,200 ------ Vanuatu
$ 1,200 ------ Zambia
SOUTH ASIAN INDIAN COUNTRIES
$ 600 ------ Bangladesh
$ 2,000 ------ Bhutan
$ 1,200 ------ India
$ 3,600 ------ Maldives
$ 400 ------ Nepal
$ 2,200 ------ Sri Lanka
------
STANS - Are they White or Asian?
$ 8,400 ------ Kazakhstan
$ 800 ------ Kyrgyzstan
$ 700 ------ Tajikistan
$ 3,600 ------ Turkmenistan
$ 1,300 ------ Uzbekistan
------
MESTIZO COUNTRIES
$ 1,900 ------ Bolivia
$ 11,800 ------ Chile
$ 7,700 ------ Costa Rica
$ 5,000 ------ Cuba
$ 4,200 ------ Ecuador
$ 3,600 ------ El Salvador
$ 3,000 ------ Guatemala
$ 1,900 ------ Honduras
$ 1,100 ------ Nicaragua
$ 10,400 ------ Venezuela
MIXED COUNTRIES
$ 4,500 ------ Belize
$ 10,100 ------ Brazil
$ 6,400 ------ Colombia
$ 2,900 ------ Guyana
$ 9,000 ------ Mexico
$ 7,900 ------ Panama
$ 2,700 ------ Paraguay
$ 5,100 ------ Peru
$ 6,100 ------ Saint Lucia
$ 7,200 ------ South Africa
$ 6,700 ------ Suriname
POLYNESIAN COUNTRIES
$ 7,400 ------ American Samoa
$ 13,500 ------ Cook Islands
$ 3,600 ------ Fiji
$ 2,900 ------ Indonesia
$ 1,500 ------ Kiribati
$ 7,700 ------ Malaysia
$ 2,600 ------ Marshall Islands
$ 2,200 ------ Micronesia, Federated States of
$ 4,700 ------ Niue
$ 9,100 ------ Northern Mariana Islands
$ 7,900 ------ Palau
$ 2,900 ------ Samoa
$ 1,200 ------ Solomon Islands
$ 500 ------ Timor-Leste
$ 2,500 ------ Tonga
$ 1,500 ------ Tuvalu
WHITE COUNTRIES
$ 3,800 ------ Albania
$ 8,500 ------ Argentina
$ 2,900 ------ Armenia
$ 6,200 ------ Azerbaijan
$ 5,500 ------ Belarus
$ 3,500 ------ Bosnia and Herzegovina
$ 6,200 ------ Bulgaria
$ 13,400 ------ Croatia
$ 14,800 ------ Estonia
$ 2,400 ------ Georgia
$ 13,200 ------ Hungary
$ 4,400 ------ Iran
$ 1,800 ------ Kosovo
$ 10,500 ------ Latvia
$ 10,100 ------ Lithuania
$ 4,600 ------ Macedonia, Republic of
$ 1,500 ------ Moldova
$ 5,800 ------ Montenegro
$ 11,400 ------ Poland
$ 7,200 ------ Romania
$ 10,600 ------ Russia
$ 5,300 ------ Serbia
$ 3,000 ------ Ukraine
$ 11,600 ------ Uruguay
Obviously, I'm most interested in the White Countries. However, some of the Mixed Countries might be OK if the White Women living there are in lower demand than the women of other races.
Thanks! Let me know if you have any input!
Last edited by i_want_a_hot_white_chick on February 12th, 2011, 10:28 am, edited 1 time in total.
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