Well said, I think it's best he just gets laid first and looses his virginity.MarcosZeitola wrote:Before you find this girl you may very well be in your early thirties. With your high ideals and morals, as well as your not-very-outgoing nature, chances are you'd still be a virgin at this age. Inexperienced in love, inexperienced in life, entirely new to the whole relationship game, and about to jump straight into a marriage!
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I agree that your scenario would be bizarre. I speak properly without slang. I don't use complex words that someone couldn't understand. I always talk at the level the other person can easily understand.MarcosZeitola wrote:Put yourself in the girls' shoes for a bit. You just come out of school with your friends and a short, well-groomed American man walks up to you. As he stands in front of you, you discover he's as tall as you if not slightly shorter. He says he is looking for a wife... he's twice your age and has never been with a woman, but he says he has money and honor, and will take good care of you. The stranger talks Russian but uses words not heard since the days of the Tsar. You are quite taken aback by the strange man, who acts so formal and old-fashioned he seems to have walked straight from a Tolstoy novel. All he's missing is the sword and cavalry uniform.
Be honest with me Tsar... this is a bit of a bizarre scenario from the girls point of view, isn't it?
I wouldn't throw myself at a girl. I have code of honor but that doesn't mean I am entirely honorable and I'm not a pushover. I wouldn't tell her I have a lot of money because I don't want a gold-digger. I might want my ideal girl but I'm not desperate and I'm not desperate for any girl.
If you're not desperate than why are you on the forum writing posts that you're lonely?Tsar wrote: I wouldn't throw myself at a girl. I have code of honor but that doesn't mean I am entirely honorable and I'm not a pushover. I wouldn't tell her I have a lot of money because I don't want a gold-digger. I might want my ideal girl but I'm not desperate and I'm not desperate for any girl.

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Ultimately won't affect the way I act if I get the right girl. I want a girl that's mostly a Classic Princess but also the sweet version of the Mafia Princess trope. She shouldn't care how I get us the life we deserve or what business dealings I would be involved in as long as we have a great life and a happily ever after ending. I don't require a girl to be my life partner forever because the door will always be open if she wants to leave. All she would need to do is say the words. If she ever cheated then I would divorce her regardless of memories, time together, or how much I liked being with her.MarcosZeitola wrote:In what ways are you not entirely honorable, and how would this affect the way you act around a potential girlfriend\wife? Also isn't it very pressuring for your first girlfriend\love to also be a partner for life? It's a very all-or-nothing scenario it seems.Tsar wrote:I wouldn't throw myself at a girl. I have code of honor but that doesn't mean I am entirely honorable and I'm not a pushover.
Why is you remaining a virgin "honorable", when in other aspects you are willing to be less then honorable if needs be?
I would want to support her and she shouldn't work unless its beside me. I wouldn't force her to remain a partner for life but I would make leaving very financially painful. She could leave but she would know that it has a severe consequence. Adulterous behaviors have the same severe consequence. There is only one king in chess but any pawn could become a new queen

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Remaining a virgin has nothing to do with being honorable. Remaining a virgin is about pride and losing my virginity to an attractive virgin girl is about preserving my honor and pride. There is a difference between a person's honor and a person acting honorably.
An example would be the mafia lord. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheDon
I am all-in because compromise isn't an option. It's not only about love, it's also about deriving pride and happiness from having an ideal girl.
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Dude, I won't interfere with most of your fantasies, but I strongly encourage you to drop these fantasies of yours about being a master crimelord/crooked businessman!Tsar wrote: Ultimately won't affect the way I act if I get the right girl. I want a girl that's mostly a Classic Princess but also the sweet version of the Mafia Princess trope. She shouldn't care how I get us the life we deserve or what business dealings I would be involved in as long as we have a great life and a happily ever after ending.
...An example would be the mafia lord. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheDon
You are a quiet, shy guy from New England who writes poems on blogs for god sakes! lol You are not a tough guy from the mean streets of the Bronx. If you start messing around with hardened criminals in either the US or abroad, you will probably end up getting seriously injured or killed by them.
First of all, the Marlon Brando of 'The Godfather' is the American/Sicilian mafia of yesteryear, with a bunch of codes of conduct and a general sense of reverence for the public order. In fact, even regular citizens *respected those guys* and simply let 'em go there own way, w/o making fanfare. Those were the dying days of my dad's generation where although you may inadvertently work with someone in organized crime, esp if your business is in *construction* or related fields, you didn't cross anyone's path and stayed on your side of the line while respecting the made men of the time period. Bystanders were seldom injured by mob strikes.Jackal wrote:Dude, I won't interfere with most of your fantasies, but I strongly encourage you to drop these fantasies of yours about being a master crimelord/crooked businessman!Tsar wrote: Ultimately won't affect the way I act if I get the right girl. I want a girl that's mostly a Classic Princess but also the sweet version of the Mafia Princess trope. She shouldn't care how I get us the life we deserve or what business dealings I would be involved in as long as we have a great life and a happily ever after ending.
...An example would be the mafia lord. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheDon
You are a quiet, shy guy from New England who writes poems on blogs for god sakes! lol You are not a tough guy from the mean streets of the Bronx. If you start messing around with hardened criminals in either the US or abroad, you will probably end up getting seriously injured or killed by them.
Today's up and coming Russian Mafia are some of the most notorious thugs out there, murdering entire families, out of spite and vendetta. These are some seriously hardened criminals, ex-KGB a/o Red Army types.
As for New England, is Tsar based out in northern Maine? Because he seems to be living in some Stephen King type of world of fantasy, disconnected from the rest of the region, where many ppl are somewhat practical and down to earth.
Many years ago, the Best Picture of 1999, "American Beauty", telegraphed the message of Happier Abroad to the world.
Beware of long term engagements with AWs, you may find yourself in a coffin.
AB discussion thread
BTW, despite settling down with an AW, myself, the warning is still in effect.
Beware of long term engagements with AWs, you may find yourself in a coffin.
AB discussion thread
BTW, despite settling down with an AW, myself, the warning is still in effect.
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If you can't compromise, ever, then your ideal girl will always remain, well, ideal and never materialise. If you don't pack some serious life experience under your skin you risk ending up like Winston in Russia, getting some ego-grooming attention (but very little sex) at the price of being scammed left right and center.Tsar wrote:I am all-in because compromise isn't an option. It's not only about love, it's also about deriving pride and happiness from having an ideal girl.
Also, what's this fascination with a "Mafia princess"? LOL you must have played Grand Theft Auto a little bit too long

Marcos/Public, if you recall my gateway list: ages 13, 17, 24, 29+ ... the first gateway, age 13, is the point where the line between fantasy and reality gets solidified. Thus, Mafia princess (or any princess from any movie genre) is a first gateway issue.
You fellas are so hyperfocused on the 2nd and 3rd gateways that you're missing the obvious one. So while life isn't a linear procession, some of it is necessary to reach the other gates.
The OP is not ready for a trip outside of upstate Maine. If anything, he should cross the border at New Brunswick or Quebec and see a high end esc@rt in some Canadian town/city. The Mounties will protect him, as the RMCP are good at their jobs. Then, he'll realize that as you'd said, it's not a big deal, meaning the act of b*inking. Otherwise, this sort of fella is ripe for a South American kidnapping/extortion or an eastern European gang attack.
You fellas are so hyperfocused on the 2nd and 3rd gateways that you're missing the obvious one. So while life isn't a linear procession, some of it is necessary to reach the other gates.
The OP is not ready for a trip outside of upstate Maine. If anything, he should cross the border at New Brunswick or Quebec and see a high end esc@rt in some Canadian town/city. The Mounties will protect him, as the RMCP are good at their jobs. Then, he'll realize that as you'd said, it's not a big deal, meaning the act of b*inking. Otherwise, this sort of fella is ripe for a South American kidnapping/extortion or an eastern European gang attack.
Many years ago, the Best Picture of 1999, "American Beauty", telegraphed the message of Happier Abroad to the world.
Beware of long term engagements with AWs, you may find yourself in a coffin.
AB discussion thread
BTW, despite settling down with an AW, myself, the warning is still in effect.
Beware of long term engagements with AWs, you may find yourself in a coffin.
AB discussion thread
BTW, despite settling down with an AW, myself, the warning is still in effect.
You should invite him with you the next time you and your lesbo friend venture over the border, eeehhhh?S_Parc wrote: The OP is not ready for a trip outside of upstate Maine. If anything, he should cross the border at New Brunswick or Quebec and see a high end esc@rt in some Canadian town/city. The Mounties will protect him, as the RMCP are good at their jobs. Then, he'll realize that as you'd said, it's not a big deal, meaning the act of b*inking. Otherwise, this sort of fella is ripe for a South American kidnapping/extortion or an eastern European gang attack.

I totally agree with you S_Parc. Whether he bonks escorts there or not, he would gain some useful travel experience in Quebec, at the very least.S_Parc wrote: The OP is not ready for a trip outside of upstate Maine. If anything, he should cross the border at New Brunswick or Quebec and see a high end esc@rt in some Canadian town/city. The Mounties will protect him, as the RMCP are good at their jobs. Then, he'll realize that as you'd said, it's not a big deal, meaning the act of b*inking. Otherwise, this sort of fella is ripe for a South American kidnapping/extortion or an eastern European gang attack.
@Tsar: Have you ever been out of the US before?
Another thing I want to point out to you, Tsar, is that your fantasy of keeping a shady business life and your family life completely separate is unlikely to happen for another two reasons:Tsar wrote:She shouldn't care how I get us the life we deserve or what business dealings I would be involved in as long as we have a great life and a happily ever after ending.
1) The police in that country could find out about your criminal activities and kick down your door and arrest you and push you around in front of your no-longer-a-virgin, princess-like wife, and she would find out about your crimes that way.
or
2) Some of the criminals you cheated out of money eventually come looking for you and kill you, your no-longer-a-virgin princess-like wife, and any children which you may have.
In short, it's not a wise choice of careers...
First of all, becoming a 'wise guy' is not like applying to be a cook at a diner. In other words, if you can make a steak & eggs really fast, you're hired!Jackal wrote:Another thing I want to point out to you, Tsar, is that your fantasy of keeping a shady business life and your family life completely separate is unlikely to happen for another two reasons:Tsar wrote:She shouldn't care how I get us the life we deserve or what business dealings I would be involved in as long as we have a great life and a happily ever after ending.
1) The police in that country could find out about your criminal activities and kick down your door and arrest you and push you around in front of your no-longer-a-virgin, princess-like wife, and she would find out about your crimes that way.
or
2) Some of the criminals you cheated out of money eventually come looking for you and kill you, your no-longer-a-virgin princess-like wife, and any children which you may have.
In short, it's not a wise choice of careers...
These kids have been doing petty theft (or small deals), regularly, until they get a 'job' from let's say a Joe Pesci type, you know, the insider who's trying to get 'made'.
At the same time, they know how to befriend an enforcer, generally by splitting profits. You'll need some muscle, if you want to survive long term.
Seriously, it takes a lot for a quiet, shy kid, to star in his own "GoodFellas" movie.
And unlike the American Mafia, with their code of benevolence [ only whack the problem & any witnesses ], the eastern European ones kill the entire immediate family.
Many years ago, the Best Picture of 1999, "American Beauty", telegraphed the message of Happier Abroad to the world.
Beware of long term engagements with AWs, you may find yourself in a coffin.
AB discussion thread
BTW, despite settling down with an AW, myself, the warning is still in effect.
Beware of long term engagements with AWs, you may find yourself in a coffin.
AB discussion thread
BTW, despite settling down with an AW, myself, the warning is still in effect.
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Actually, this thread has been a journey onto itself. Starting from loneliness/isolation, followed by a lot of bantering about change/no change, and now, the Russian mob and so forth.MarcosZeitola wrote:Well excuse us for having this little thing called empathy. What should we be talking about then, black Adam and Eve and their incest family tree or some other Biblical retarded nonsense like we did yesterday?SilverEnergy wrote:lmao at the people who are still replying to this thread.![]()
Tsar is feeling lonely and we try and get the guy to get off his a**, work, and make sure he won't be lonely anymore. I say that's a pretty nice thing to do, and I've seen plenty worse topics, sadly enough. What sort of advice would you give the boy?
Many years ago, the Best Picture of 1999, "American Beauty", telegraphed the message of Happier Abroad to the world.
Beware of long term engagements with AWs, you may find yourself in a coffin.
AB discussion thread
BTW, despite settling down with an AW, myself, the warning is still in effect.
Beware of long term engagements with AWs, you may find yourself in a coffin.
AB discussion thread
BTW, despite settling down with an AW, myself, the warning is still in effect.
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