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Lucas88 wrote:
February 26th, 2023, 2:22 pm
MarcosZeitola wrote:
February 26th, 2023, 1:58 pm
Cornfed, you're a good dude but you have been getting a little snappy lately. Maybe it's time you seek out a little Mexican mamacita, make some little corns-on-the-cob. Lord knows you're not getting any younger, man. It'll mellow you out. I mean you're abroad already, you left the evil West, why not complete the "HappierAbroad" experience with a Mexican esposa? :wink:

Does @Cornfed even like non-White women?
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I recall Cornfed openly lusted after some Japanese chicks whose pics I posted in my "Curviest women" thread, saying something about how he thought they might be Korean since they had nice curvy legs or something (and he even said some stuff lusting after black women too, despite all his insolence about "bantus in human clothing," etc), but not only all that: I noticed some "MRAsian" squealers on Reddit were also yelling about Cornfed by name due to his interest in Asian women, LOL. See, Outcast9428 is right that guys like him and me should be nice to the women, so then we can still get laid and yet avoid all this drama and negativity.
If you're serious about "taking the red pill," read thoroughly researched work by an unbiased "American intellectual soldier of our age" to learn what controlled media doesn't want you to see 8) : https://www.unz.com/page/american-pravda-series/
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@WilliamSmith

Yeah, it could have just been communication problems. Maybe the way you were wording it made me think you were saying something else. I think using the term “tradcuck” a lot wasn’t really helping. But if it was all communication errors then I do apologize if I took your words the wrong way.
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WilliamSmith wrote:
February 27th, 2023, 2:30 am
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YES!!! YES!!! YES!! THANK YOU!! Seriously! :lol:
I've been trying to say this myself, but I thought you kept popping up in other threads squealing at me about my "degeneracy" because I like having sex with a lot of "easy" (high sex-drive) women....... but a while ago I started a thread specifically trying to point out you CAN be nice to women and still get laid a lot, and then you popped up on that one too yelling at me that I was supposedly lacking sympathy for beta males, even though I'd already gone out of my way that even the wimpiest men can use something along the lines of 'social circle' / church / networking to get women (which even Yohan and MrMan have pointed out too).........
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February 25th, 2023, 11:49 pm
Just not on all girls...
Yeah, that's 100% correct, because (sorry, but: duhhhhh) not all women have the same psychological profile and sexual appetites as others...
Outcast9428 wrote:
February 25th, 2023, 11:49 pm
Sure, if you are trying to sleep with lots of different women, then being gentlemanly and nice is not going to work.
NO, NO!! YOU'RE WRONG! The irony here in particular is that if it's multiple women in a social circle that know each other, you MUST be nice to them (as well as "passionate"/masculine/sexually aggressive, etc), or else they'd spread the word fast that you're a user/abuser and they'd all have you on their shit-list fast and very likely even take seriously retaliatory action against you....
!@#$, LOL, some of the girls I like (since I like women with what they call "dominant" personalities") would probably !@#$ing kill you if you mistreated them and/or any of their friends (which I'd never do, but I think you get my point :lol: )...
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February 25th, 2023, 11:49 pm
But there are definitely a decently large minority of girls out there who are genuinely attracted to nice guys and gentlemen. As long as you are a passionate nice guy that is. People keep trying to argue that "nice guys are boring." Nice guys are only boring if it goes along with a lack of passion and romance. If he's nice but only cares about work or his hobbies, then yes he probably isn't a very interesting romantic partner. But I take my cues from Shakespeare characters... I don't act quite as cheesy as they do but I have adopted their general mindset. I let the girl know how much I love her, I let myself fall for her without holding back, I compliment her all the time, I kiss her, hug her, and show a lot of physical affection every opportunity I get.
Yes! I'm glad you said so. You're right!
This point ought to be obvious if we lived in a day and age with any f-ing sense: Just think about some guy like Cary Grant, or the Connery, Dalton, or Moore Bonds, for example: Is anyone going to say with a straight face that "being gentlemanly is not going to work"???

It looks like you realize this yourself already, but we're just having communication problems in other threads, LOL. :P

Anyway, I'm too shit-faced to respond coherently anymore tonight (a common problem when I end up back on the HA forum late at night, on those annoying nights when there's no woman in my presence, LOL), but FYI @Pixel--dude and @Lucas88, this stuff he just said there is why I still like @Outcast9428.
If a woman kills you then she's shit to begin with, you have bad taste in females
my man if you're dating girls that will murder you. That means even if she suspects you to be up to something
she can get mad, lose her shit and murder you. f**k that.
Even I wouldn't murder a woman that mistreated me. Women are confused about wtf they want in a man.
Most men that mistreat women usually have no nice or polite
traits what so ever about them but certain women are still drawn to them. Normally women that will out right murder a man that mistreated them know the man was shit to begin with but purposely date those type of men so they can have drama and shit in their lives. f**k those women. If a woman had to tell me "if you mistreat me I will kill you." I wouldn't even f**k with her ass, that's someone who is already unhinged.
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WilliamSmith wrote:
February 27th, 2023, 2:30 am
NO, NO!! YOU'RE WRONG! The irony here in particular is that if it's multiple women in a social circle that know each other, you MUST be nice to them (as well as "passionate"/masculine/sexually aggressive, etc), or else they'd spread the word fast that you're a user/abuser and they'd all have you on their shit-list fast and very likely even take seriously retaliatory action against you....
!@#$, LOL, some of the girls I like (since I like women with what they call "dominant" personalities") would probably !@#$ing kill you if you mistreated them and/or any of their friends (which I'd never do, but I think you get my point :lol: )...
I see that, amidst the turbulent sea of clueless weakboy simps with their cloying Shakespearean romanticism and the bitter incels who think that everybody should be killed just because women never liked them, finally somebody with a balanced viewpoint has entered the discussion. Yes, it's important to be nice to women. I know this from personal experience. My Peruvian ex-girlfriend told me that she enjoyed being with me and always felt safe because I always showed her respect and made her feel appreciated. However, as you rightfully allude in your post above, being nice comes with a condition.

That condition is sufficient masculinity, dominance and sexual attraction.

If all a guy has is his "niceness" but not enough masculinity or dominance to be perceived as attractive or to command respect and not enough sexual attraction to excite a romantic prospect, then he'll be nothing more than that boring "nice guy" talked about so often in the "Red Pill" literature and in most cases will be confined to the "friendzone". In my case, my Peruvian ex-girlfriend appreciated my gentlemanly demeanor and my effort to always treat her right, but at the same time she loved it when I took charge, acted like a leader, displayed masculine behavior, did masculine activities like martial arts, and aggressively dominated her in the bedroom. At first, I was too nice and not quite dominant enough due to the feminized education I got from my mother about "respecting women" and whatnot and my Peruvian ex-girlfriend didn't appreciate that, but I quickly learned the ropes and brought out my inner masculine instincts which had been suppressed by an overly emasculated society and then everything got much better. My Peruvian ex-girlfriend was much more satisfied than before.

Women like masculinity. They don't want some weakboy pansy who doesn't even act like a man. For most women, that's a major turnoff, the minority of women who get off on cucking their boyfriends/husbands notwithstanding (but those kind of people are fcuked in the head anyway). At the same time, many young men today don't even know how to act like men. They've been biologically feminized by all of the harmful toxins that have massively flooded our everyday environment in recent decades and then psychologically feminized by a sick society which now views masculinity as a problem and encourages boys and young men to act like sissies. It's no wonder that a significant subset of young men are unable to attract a woman, no matter how "nice" they try to be. They simply lack most if not all of the masculine traits which most women find attractive.

So yes, the situation is nuanced, just as @MarcosZeitola alluded earlier in this discussion. It's best to combine a reasonable level of niceness with rugged masculinity and a natural air of dominance.

There's a reason why I advocate gym and combat sports training for men. Not only do such activities masculinize the body and raise testosterone levels but also allow one to cultivate masculine behavior, reconnect with one's masculine instincts and develop the combat skills necessary to protect a woman and one's loved ones (all in conjunction with the cultivation of discipline and the channeling of one's warlike instincts into something constructive). In order to be truly masculine, a man has to do masculine things. He has to be able to back it up with tangible actions. Otherwise he'll just remain a pathetic posturer LARPing as an "alpha".
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Yep... women likes men with masculine energy. It has been that way for several thousands of years. However, they couldn't find that kind of energy in average men nowadays because of all the feminist, socialist, nanny state brainwashing in the West.

So I think that's why women wants to date with thugs, badboys, degenerates, serial killers, gangbangers, pimps, etc. Although they are dangerous and unstable, they do emit masculine energy.

Being a nice guy is just icing on the cake. It is not the "end all" magic bullet to get women in bed.
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Natural_Born_Cynic wrote:
February 27th, 2023, 10:58 am
So I think that's why women wants to date with thugs, badboys, degenerates, serial killers, gangbangers, pimps, etc. Although they are dangerous and unstable, they do emit masculine energy.
No it is more about them being dumbasses the females associate with entertainment now. The unstableness is part of that. Any masculine energy they have is just a coincidence. Skanks are into experiences with lesbians and dogs who don't have much masculine energy.
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Cornfed wrote:
February 27th, 2023, 11:02 am
No it is more about them being dumbasses the females associate with entertainment now. The unstableness is part of that. Any masculine energy they have is just a coincidence. Skanks are into experiences with lesbians and dogs who don't have much masculine energy.
Yes of course. The "masculine energy" thing is utter bullshit in modern culture. No western woman today wants John Wayne. They prefer effeminate degenerates.
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It's just my speculation..I could be wrong. Ameriskanks are very fickle creatures indeed.
Yeah I agree.. nowadays it seems that western skanks are also into pet dogs & cats and being lesbians.
I've seen many Skanks buying up several cats and dogs because they are cute or they might be into some bestiality.
Either way... Being a nice guy won't work and it will leave you into simp zone, friendzone, beta orbital, or whatever..
100% guaranteed.
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Natural_Born_Cynic wrote:
February 27th, 2023, 11:38 am
Either way... Being a nice guy won't work and it will leave you into simp zone, friendzone, beta orbital, or whatever..
100% guaranteed.
Not 100% guaranteed since it is working for me along with other people I know. I can say for a fact that good men have a fighting chance of winning a girl over in the Southern states, if they go for church girls they especially have a pretty good chance.

I knew one guy who was really ugly, nerdy, honestly didn’t have much going for him in an objective sense and he got a beautiful Mennonite girlfriend. I also knew one very religious girl at my former college who was successfully able to resist the pull of degeneracy and disliked the bad boy types at my college, even the ones who were very attractive on an objective level. She instead chose to date a typical shy nice guy type.

There are girls out there who like that kind of guy, and they aren’t as hard to find as people think they are. Although I’m not pretending it is easy.
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Natural_Born_Cynic wrote:
February 27th, 2023, 11:38 am
@Cornfed
@fschmidt

It's just my speculation..I could be wrong. Ameriskanks are very fickle creatures indeed.
Yeah I agree.. nowadays it seems that western skanks are also into pet dogs & cats and being lesbians.
I've seen many Skanks buying up several cats and dogs because they are cute or they might be into some bestiality.
Either way... Being a nice guy won't work and it will leave you into simp zone, friendzone, beta orbital, or whatever..
100% guaranteed.
That depends on the race of women, because black women aren't interested in f***ing animals. That kind of shit is what WHITE WOMEN DO. So when people say Western, they are generalizing a bit much because you won't find too many black or even Asian American women f***ing their cats and dogs, hell even latino girls don't even really do that. White women 90% of the time are the only ones that get off on that. hell there are even loads of articles and true stories about attractive white female teachers in their 20s having sex with their underage students. White women don't give a shit. I seen images of some of the finest looking white female teachers in their 20s who were involved in some scandal with a student. But you rarely found stories about black, Asian, or even Hispanic female teachers doing any of that stuff. Sometimes you would but it was 90% of the time some young white female teacher or teacher in her 30s. And a lot of the women who are going Lesbian aren't very attractive to begin with since most Lesbian women are ugly. I use to run into black lesbian women all the time and goddamn they were ugly...They were usually fat with their hair cut almost bald. and tried their hardest to look like men. Sort of like the masculine roles Queen Latifah was always portraying, that's how the majority of them actually acted and looked :shock:
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February 27th, 2023, 12:20 pm
Not 100% guaranteed since it is working for me along with other people I know.
So if something you deem good happens to you, that means whatever you happen to be doing at the time is "working"? That's retarded.
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Outcast9428 wrote:
February 27th, 2023, 12:20 pm
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote:
February 27th, 2023, 11:38 am
Either way... Being a nice guy won't work and it will leave you into simp zone, friendzone, beta orbital, or whatever..
100% guaranteed.
Not 100% guaranteed since it is working for me along with other people I know.
Yes, only 99.9% guaranteed. Far better to look outside the West.
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Cornfed wrote:
February 27th, 2023, 12:33 pm
Outcast9428 wrote:
February 27th, 2023, 12:20 pm
Not 100% guaranteed since it is working for me along with other people I know.
So if something you deem good happens to you, that means whatever you happen to be doing at the time is "working"? That's retarded.
Not just because it’s working for me, I know several other people in real life whom it is working for as well.
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Cornfed wrote:
February 27th, 2023, 12:33 pm
Outcast9428 wrote:
February 27th, 2023, 12:20 pm
Not 100% guaranteed since it is working for me along with other people I know.
So if something you deem good happens to you, that means whatever you happen to be doing at the time is "working"? That's retarded.
Yep, that's (((Outcast))) all over: retarded delusional solipsist who assumes that his own subjective experiences and assumptions constitute universal objective truth and that everyone else is either wrong or a liar or otherwise too dumb to understand. Lol!
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Lucas88 wrote:
February 27th, 2023, 12:52 pm
Cornfed wrote:
February 27th, 2023, 12:33 pm
Outcast9428 wrote:
February 27th, 2023, 12:20 pm
Not 100% guaranteed since it is working for me along with other people I know.
So if something you deem good happens to you, that means whatever you happen to be doing at the time is "working"? That's retarded.
Yep, that's (((Outcast))) all over: retarded delusional solipsist who assumes that his own subjective experiences and assumptions constitute universal objective truth and that everyone else is either wrong or a liar or otherwise too dumb to understand. Lol!
The only argument I’ve made is that in the Southern US states, it will work on some girls. I didn’t say most, and I didn’t claim to speak for the whole country, or the whole world. I said in the Southern US states, nice guys have a chance because some girls are into that… Especially church girls… So what’s your position? No it never works ever? That’s a pretty tough position to defend especially since the burden of proof for that position is very high.
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