Being a "Nice Guy" Actually Does Work...

[Tsar]

If this is the best you can do, a break from you posting might be a good idea.

I think you might be correct. A break will be a good idea. I've been posting too much because I have been bored since returning to North America.

[Cornfed]

If this is the best you can do, a break from you posting might be a good idea.

I think you might be correct. A break will be a good idea. I've been posting too much because I have been bored since returning to North America.

Yeah, just on the subject, if anyone believed Outcast's story there would be no reason to be jealous because it would be apparent that he was taking his turn with a particular slut way too seriously. Therefore, although I guess the person might be jealous in the short term, he could be smugly content that the whole thing was going to go pear shaped in the end, so it would on balance be pleasing for the otherwise jealous person. Not so? Maybe you are in that situation.

[Tsar]

Maybe you are in that situation.

What situation?

[Cornfed]

Maybe you are in that situation.

What situation?

The situation where you would be jealous of some guy reportedly getting sex. This would explain the projection on your part.

[Tsar]

Maybe you are in that situation.

What situation?

The situation where you would be jealous of some guy reportedly getting sex. This would explain the projection on your part.

No, I am not jealous of people getting sex. Everyone knows that I only want a virgin girl. I have zero jealousy regarding other people's relationships.

[Outcast9428]

@Cornfed Tsar is not acting jealous the way you are. You are constantly wishing for various people to die on here. That is not the behavior of a mentally stable man.

@MarcosZeitola He probably thinks Viktor Orban is a leftist satanist too. I’d be curious to know what infraction Orban committed to make him think Orban is a leftist.

[Lucas88]

Cornfed, you're a good dude but you have been getting a little snappy lately. Maybe it's time you seek out a little Mexican mamacita, make some little corns-on-the-cob. Lord knows you're not getting any younger, man. It'll mellow you out. I mean you're abroad already, you left the evil West, why not complete the "HappierAbroad" experience with a Mexican esposa?

Does @Cornfed even like non-White women?

If he likes Latinas too, he should definitely get himself a cute little mexicanita.

[Outcast9428]

He probably thinks Viktor Orban is a leftist satanist too. I’d be curious to know what infraction Orban committed to make him think Orban is a leftist.

Lol no way. Orbán is literally your "spirit animal" and through your tireless promotion of the man's ideals, I must say I have become somewhat of a "true believer" in the man's tactics. Within Europe, Hungary does not yet have the best birth rates but, it does go in the right direction so that's very promising. But that's another debate for another topic hehe.

Main thing here is, you're a good dude. People are ragging on you a lot because you're a bit of a zealot and that can rub folks the wrong way. But at the end of the day, any man who has a cute 19-year-old girl and will soon marry her and have a large family by her, is a winner in my book. So all I can do is salute you and wish you the best, and let the haters hate away. And I do genuinely hope Corny finds himself a nice lil' Mexican mamacita and has some little corncobs soon.

Oh yeah, Orban is definitely my spirit animal lol. I just wouldn’t be surprised if Cornfed thinks he’s a leftist for some reason.

Well I appreciate the positive sentiments. Yeah I can’t deny being a bit of a zealot. I’ve said before I think I am a radical, just not an extremist necessarily.

There are definitely different types of right wing people… Some of my views I’d say have come from the views of my family, including my extended family… And definitely none of them are really Manosphere types. But some of my views are influenced by the internet/Manosphere too… Especially back when I was in college I was more “Manosphere right” so to speak. But going back to my hometown and getting a taste of what a mildly conservative environment feels like changed my perspective to a more positive one. If this is how much mild conservatism can change my life, the possibilities for a truly conservative country are amazing. I think I got to see some of that while I was in Hungary and it was inspiring. I wasn’t there long enough to deeply understand the country but I understood it well enough to know that what’s happening there is amazing and I look forward to seeing the end project fully unfold.

[Outcast9428]

@Mercer That is some pretty flimsy evidence for Marcos being a crazy person. A guy wants to let others know that his lifestyle is making him happy and is working for him on a forum designed for giving advice and that makes him crazy?

[WilliamSmith]

Re: Being a "Nice Guy" Actually Does Work...

@Outcast9428
YES!!! YES!!! YES!! THANK YOU!! Seriously!
I've been trying to say this myself, but I thought you kept popping up in other threads squealing at me about my "degeneracy" because I like having sex with a lot of "easy" (high sex-drive) women....... but a while ago I started a thread specifically trying to point out you CAN be nice to women and still get laid a lot, and then you popped up on that one too yelling at me that I was supposedly lacking sympathy for beta males, even though I'd already gone out of my way that even the wimpiest men can use something along the lines of 'social circle' / church / networking to get women (which even Yohan and MrMan have pointed out too).........

Just not on all girls...

Yeah, that's 100% correct, because (sorry, but: duhhhhh) not all women have the same psychological profile and sexual appetites as others...

Sure, if you are trying to sleep with lots of different women, then being gentlemanly and nice is not going to work.

NO, NO!! YOU'RE WRONG! The irony here in particular is that if it's multiple women in a social circle that know each other, you MUST be nice to them (as well as "passionate"/masculine/sexually aggressive, etc), or else they'd spread the word fast that you're a user/abuser and they'd all have you on their shit-list fast and very likely even take seriously retaliatory action against you....
!@#$, LOL, some of the girls I like (since I like women with what they call "dominant" personalities") would probably !@#$ing kill you if you mistreated them and/or any of their friends (which I'd never do, but I think you get my point )...

But there are definitely a decently large minority of girls out there who are genuinely attracted to nice guys and gentlemen. As long as you are a passionate nice guy that is. People keep trying to argue that "nice guys are boring." Nice guys are only boring if it goes along with a lack of passion and romance. If he's nice but only cares about work or his hobbies, then yes he probably isn't a very interesting romantic partner. But I take my cues from Shakespeare characters... I don't act quite as cheesy as they do but I have adopted their general mindset. I let the girl know how much I love her, I let myself fall for her without holding back, I compliment her all the time, I kiss her, hug her, and show a lot of physical affection every opportunity I get.

Yes! I'm glad you said so. You're right!
This point ought to be obvious if we lived in a day and age with any f-ing sense: Just think about some guy like Cary Grant, or the Connery, Dalton, or Moore Bonds, for example: Is anyone going to say with a straight face that "being gentlemanly is not going to work"???

It looks like you realize this yourself already, but we're just having communication problems in other threads, LOL.

Anyway, I'm too shit-faced to respond coherently anymore tonight (a common problem when I end up back on the HA forum late at night, on those annoying nights when there's no woman in my presence, LOL), but FYI @Pixel--dude and @Lucas88, this stuff he just said there is why I still like @Outcast9428.

[WilliamSmith]

@WanderingProtagonist I think we can all agree that cuckolds are disgusting. A lot of cuckolds don’t really have very attractive wives in my opinion. So it’s basically two ugly people who aren’t really attracted to each other doing anything they can to get sexual pleasure.

@Outcast9428
@WanderingProtagonist

On a tangent, do any of you guys actually know any perverts IRL who are actually into this gross "cuckolding" BS?!?
I originally figured that stuff was a just a jew porno psy-op to mess with peoples' heads (which it has done, from what I've noticed), but....

Naming just one example from this very forum:
That washed up old whop sodomite sexpat (who was recently blowing hot air at me in some other thread about how he "doesn't consider himself a faggot," even after him openly admitting he'd gotten a blow from at least 2 pinoy "ladyboys") mentioned he'd even done some 'cuckolding' escapades with some old Filipinos who were apparently into that crap too, so... WTF LOL.

But seriously: Who the hell wants to see some other asshole throwing one in to the women they wanted for themselves, LOL. WTF?!!
Some of the neurotic tradcuck squealers on this forum and elsewhere act like I'm supposedly nuts because I'm not interested in "virginal" women... (My response being: What man in their right mind would want to 'penetrate' one of those gross membrane things and cause a nice girl pain, UGH!!!), but WTF re "cuckolds," LOL. Gross.

[WilliamSmith]

Cornfed, you're a good dude but you have been getting a little snappy lately. Maybe it's time you seek out a little Mexican mamacita, make some little corns-on-the-cob. Lord knows you're not getting any younger, man. It'll mellow you out. I mean you're abroad already, you left the evil West, why not complete the "HappierAbroad" experience with a Mexican esposa?

Does @Cornfed even like non-White women?

@Lucas88
I recall Cornfed openly lusted after some Japanese chicks whose pics I posted in my "Curviest women" thread, saying something about how he thought they might be Korean since they had nice curvy legs or something (and he even said some stuff lusting after black women too, despite all his insolence about "bantus in human clothing," etc), but not only all that: I noticed some "MRAsian" squealers on Reddit were also yelling about Cornfed by name due to his interest in Asian women, LOL. See, Outcast9428 is right that guys like him and me should be nice to the women, so then we can still get laid and yet avoid all this drama and negativity.

[Outcast9428]

@WilliamSmith

Yeah, it could have just been communication problems. Maybe the way you were wording it made me think you were saying something else. I think using the term “tradcuck” a lot wasn’t really helping. But if it was all communication errors then I do apologize if I took your words the wrong way.

[WanderingProtagonist]

Re: Being a "Nice Guy" Actually Does Work...

@Outcast9428
YES!!! YES!!! YES!! THANK YOU!! Seriously!
I've been trying to say this myself, but I thought you kept popping up in other threads squealing at me about my "degeneracy" because I like having sex with a lot of "easy" (high sex-drive) women....... but a while ago I started a thread specifically trying to point out you CAN be nice to women and still get laid a lot, and then you popped up on that one too yelling at me that I was supposedly lacking sympathy for beta males, even though I'd already gone out of my way that even the wimpiest men can use something along the lines of 'social circle' / church / networking to get women (which even Yohan and MrMan have pointed out too).........

Just not on all girls...

Yeah, that's 100% correct, because (sorry, but: duhhhhh) not all women have the same psychological profile and sexual appetites as others...

Sure, if you are trying to sleep with lots of different women, then being gentlemanly and nice is not going to work.

NO, NO!! YOU'RE WRONG! The irony here in particular is that if it's multiple women in a social circle that know each other, you MUST be nice to them (as well as "passionate"/masculine/sexually aggressive, etc), or else they'd spread the word fast that you're a user/abuser and they'd all have you on their shit-list fast and very likely even take seriously retaliatory action against you....
!@#$, LOL, some of the girls I like (since I like women with what they call "dominant" personalities") would probably !@#$ing kill you if you mistreated them and/or any of their friends (which I'd never do, but I think you get my point )...

But there are definitely a decently large minority of girls out there who are genuinely attracted to nice guys and gentlemen. As long as you are a passionate nice guy that is. People keep trying to argue that "nice guys are boring." Nice guys are only boring if it goes along with a lack of passion and romance. If he's nice but only cares about work or his hobbies, then yes he probably isn't a very interesting romantic partner. But I take my cues from Shakespeare characters... I don't act quite as cheesy as they do but I have adopted their general mindset. I let the girl know how much I love her, I let myself fall for her without holding back, I compliment her all the time, I kiss her, hug her, and show a lot of physical affection every opportunity I get.

Yes! I'm glad you said so. You're right!
This point ought to be obvious if we lived in a day and age with any f-ing sense: Just think about some guy like Cary Grant, or the Connery, Dalton, or Moore Bonds, for example: Is anyone going to say with a straight face that "being gentlemanly is not going to work"???

It looks like you realize this yourself already, but we're just having communication problems in other threads, LOL.

Anyway, I'm too shit-faced to respond coherently anymore tonight (a common problem when I end up back on the HA forum late at night, on those annoying nights when there's no woman in my presence, LOL), but FYI @Pixel--dude and @Lucas88, this stuff he just said there is why I still like @Outcast9428.

If a woman kills you then she's shit to begin with, you have bad taste in females
my man if you're dating girls that will murder you. That means even if she suspects you to be up to something
she can get mad, lose her shit and murder you. f**k that.
Even I wouldn't murder a woman that mistreated me. Women are confused about wtf they want in a man.
Most men that mistreat women usually have no nice or polite
traits what so ever about them but certain women are still drawn to them. Normally women that will out right murder a man that mistreated them know the man was shit to begin with but purposely date those type of men so they can have drama and shit in their lives. f**k those women. If a woman had to tell me "if you mistreat me I will kill you." I wouldn't even f**k with her ass, that's someone who is already unhinged.

[Lucas88]

NO, NO!! YOU'RE WRONG! The irony here in particular is that if it's multiple women in a social circle that know each other, you MUST be nice to them (as well as "passionate"/masculine/sexually aggressive, etc), or else they'd spread the word fast that you're a user/abuser and they'd all have you on their shit-list fast and very likely even take seriously retaliatory action against you....
!@#$, LOL, some of the girls I like (since I like women with what they call "dominant" personalities") would probably !@#$ing kill you if you mistreated them and/or any of their friends (which I'd never do, but I think you get my point )...

I see that, amidst the turbulent sea of clueless weakboy simps with their cloying Shakespearean romanticism and the bitter incels who think that everybody should be killed just because women never liked them, finally somebody with a balanced viewpoint has entered the discussion. Yes, it's important to be nice to women. I know this from personal experience. My Peruvian ex-girlfriend told me that she enjoyed being with me and always felt safe because I always showed her respect and made her feel appreciated. However, as you rightfully allude in your post above, being nice comes with a condition.

That condition is sufficient masculinity, dominance and sexual attraction.

If all a guy has is his "niceness" but not enough masculinity or dominance to be perceived as attractive or to command respect and not enough sexual attraction to excite a romantic prospect, then he'll be nothing more than that boring "nice guy" talked about so often in the "Red Pill" literature and in most cases will be confined to the "friendzone". In my case, my Peruvian ex-girlfriend appreciated my gentlemanly demeanor and my effort to always treat her right, but at the same time she loved it when I took charge, acted like a leader, displayed masculine behavior, did masculine activities like martial arts, and aggressively dominated her in the bedroom. At first, I was too nice and not quite dominant enough due to the feminized education I got from my mother about "respecting women" and whatnot and my Peruvian ex-girlfriend didn't appreciate that, but I quickly learned the ropes and brought out my inner masculine instincts which had been suppressed by an overly emasculated society and then everything got much better. My Peruvian ex-girlfriend was much more satisfied than before.

Women like masculinity. They don't want some weakboy pansy who doesn't even act like a man. For most women, that's a major turnoff, the minority of women who get off on cucking their boyfriends/husbands notwithstanding (but those kind of people are fcuked in the head anyway). At the same time, many young men today don't even know how to act like men. They've been biologically feminized by all of the harmful toxins that have massively flooded our everyday environment in recent decades and then psychologically feminized by a sick society which now views masculinity as a problem and encourages boys and young men to act like sissies. It's no wonder that a significant subset of young men are unable to attract a woman, no matter how "nice" they try to be. They simply lack most if not all of the masculine traits which most women find attractive.

So yes, the situation is nuanced, just as @MarcosZeitola alluded earlier in this discussion. It's best to combine a reasonable level of niceness with rugged masculinity and a natural air of dominance.

There's a reason why I advocate gym and combat sports training for men. Not only do such activities masculinize the body and raise testosterone levels but also allow one to cultivate masculine behavior, reconnect with one's masculine instincts and develop the combat skills necessary to protect a woman and one's loved ones (all in conjunction with the cultivation of discipline and the channeling of one's warlike instincts into something constructive). In order to be truly masculine, a man has to do masculine things. He has to be able to back it up with tangible actions. Otherwise he'll just remain a pathetic posturer LARPing as an "alpha".