Would you live abroad or in the west?

[survivingIncelMan]

I know many of us here desire to travel or already traveled abroad to meet better women/wife and to get away from American women. If you are not looking for a wife/girlfriend, would you still live abroad or live in the west?

[The]

Ill live in a western country not named the United States, sure.....Western Europe would be good, that way you have easier access to Eastern Europe....

[fschmidt]

I don't hate America (the land), I just hate Americans (the people). So I have no problem living in America away from Americans. Where I live now, in El Paso, the population is Mexican. I may move to a farm in rural Texas where the population would be farm animals. Farm animals are far superior to any modern form of humans.

[drealm]

The food and architecture is better abroad, but corruption is high, people are unreliable and there's more crime. If you want to be a hermit and build your own house, America has more freedom.

[drealm]

You would be a fool to believe America or Europe is less corrupt then third world countries. The different is that, as with all things in the West, the prices are simply higher and the people being bought may be slightly more discreet. At the end of the day, money still rules the world and everyone and anything can be bought.

At the top yes, at the bottom no. Yes banksters are bigger and badder in America. But no one deals with these people face to face, so who cares? I care more about how I'll be treated when I walk into a store, or when I take a taxi. In Mexico I was screwed a little bit in every small transaction I did.

You can be a hermit and build your own house just fine abroad. But with people being more approachable and generally more positive and easy to talk to, why bother hiding away from society? It's better to go somewhere where being a part of society and mingling with people brings you the greatest joy. Which would be abroad.

I agree there's no point to living abroad and being a hermit. Buying property as a foreigner will be a challenge in some places.

[Ghost]

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[QatarDan]

Ideally abroad with a western wage. Live like a king rather than day to day.

[fschmidt]

I think the best option is to have a small group of like-minded families in relative isolation in rural America. This is what I am hoping for for Biblic Judaism.

[Yohan]

Would you live abroad or live in the west?

This is not a question with an answer YES or NO.

You can live in both ways, many Scandinavians like the idea to be away to somewhere with cheap prices and warm weather during freezing wintertime and back to their own countries during summertime for seasonal work or for part-time jobs.

Also Russians from Siberia are well-known to use cheap charter flights into Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam to stay there with their families during the harsh winter and to be back again when temperature is more tolerable. Unlike Scandinavians they show however up with their family members, girlfriends etc. and they do not easily mix up with local Asian people.

About myself, I prefer to live abroad, I have no intention even to visit my native country and I am sure in Europe I would be still single.

[xiongmao]

Some things are better abroad, some things worse.

The weather is better in Barcelona but I've just suffered my 5th attempted robbery. Jeez, I've only been here 8 weeks. Number of attempted robberies in London: 0. 6 months in Bangkok: 1. China/Japan: 0.

I still like my idea of going home for a year then going back on the road for a year or so. Well god knows what I'll do the 2nd half of this year, but it's been fun so far.

[Ghost]

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[Wolfeye]

Well, there is plenty of "abroad" in the west. Everywhere south of the border would qualify, I think.

[S_Parc]

I think the problem is that although this is a lost generation, there isn't this type of Lost Generation Diaspora, as there was during Hemingway's post WWI era.

http://www.archives.gov/publications/pr ... ngway.html

Since as a group, we didn't experience something as earth shattering as a world war, there's no common bond, it's just that American society is simply falling apart and the writers of that fall are fringe elements like Roosh, HA, and a few others out there.

In a sense, the *Devolution Will Not Be Televised*.

[Winston]

There are many other reasons besides women to live abroad. Here are hundreds of reasons organized into 7 categories.

http://www.happierabroad.com/ComparisonTreatise.htm

Women and dating are just one of five major reasons to go abroad. Read about the other four here.

http://blog.happierabroad.com/2014/12/5 ... broad.html

Hope that helps you see the big picture OP.

Shouldn't your question be, after finding your foreign bride, should you stay in the West or Abroad?

[romparoo]

It seems like everyone overlooks the financial angle. If you have money, and I mean lots of dough, then everywhere is just as good. The only condition is you have to flaunt it, and you will get the attention you need. Do it moderately, I am not talking about 10 grand tabs or other similar wasteful habits. Get a nice car. Get a nice house, invite women over. Women in all shape and sizes will come showing interest, and your life will not be so boring anymore. OP, I see that you are quite new here. And judging from your username, all I can say is the whole incel or MGTOW concept doesn't work. Men need women, and vice versa. Unless you are quite elderly now and already gone through 2 or 3 divorces, don't MGTOW and don't be an incel. Routine sex is healthy, physically and mentally. If you can't get a wife or a girlfriend, get a muse.

Back to topic, I search long and hard, and couldn't find a country that provides both good salary and social connections (yes, women). You usually get one but not the other. So my goal is to work hard and smart, and invest wisely so I can retire within 10 to 12 years time. I like both western and eastern europe. Germany is my first choice. It is just at eastern europe's doorstep, yet is so close to major world trade centers. It's only 11 hours to New York or Beijing, and only 4 hours to Moscow. Within that 11 hour proximity, you get so much lifestyle varieties.